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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 13:31:51 GMT
Certainly in the past that's where the big stuff was announced but all the major Nu-Who releases - River, War Doctor, 10/Donna and gaining the licence for Nu-Who in general weren't announced in DWM but on social media after teasing clues for a few days beforehand. Torchwood was even announced on Barrowman's radio show rather infamously Sorry - yeah, you're quite right, arent you? I suppose I really meant "Pretty much everything classic series gets announced in DWm first". Yeah, I doubt that's by coincidence either. They got Tennant and Donna trending when it was announced. The same can't be said - as great as he is - for Phil Hinchcliffe coming back to the fold Rule of thumb seems to be- announce classic series in print in DWM, announce Nu-Who on social media, announce Torchwood on John Barrowman's Disco Classics.
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Post by constonks on Jan 25, 2016 19:42:45 GMT
I am really leaning towards Fusion, with the deciding factor being if they could get Matthew Waterhouse in or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 20:12:28 GMT
I do not believe there has been any deliberate hype by Big Finish on this occasion. The release date has been announced to allow people the option of buying it separately or in a bundle. Simple as that! Why would you choose to buy an unknown title though?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 20:14:36 GMT
I do not believe there has been any deliberate hype by Big Finish on this occasion. The release date has been announced to allow people the option of buying it separately or in a bundle. Simple as that! Yup. Don't they wait till things are recorded before naming them, anyway? So if it's not been recorded yet, then there's nothing noteworthy about the details not being available. Yes but it's really odd to sell something for months and months without actually saying what it is. What sort of business model is that?
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Post by randomjc on Jan 25, 2016 20:37:25 GMT
Yup. Don't they wait till things are recorded before naming them, anyway? So if it's not been recorded yet, then there's nothing noteworthy about the details not being available. Yes but it's really odd to sell something for months and months without actually saying what it is. What sort of business model is that? It's an adaptation of a Novel. It has probably been contracted to be created, which is why it's out there, as well has it's disc allotment. Those who don't mind what adaptation it is, can preorder it. Those who do care don't have to.
There are several audios that are available for prepurchas from Big Finish from well over a year out, that are apart of the Range. Fourth Doctor Adventures from late 2017, Doom Coalition 4 is in 2017, War Doctor 4 will be as well. We know about as much about them as we do know about this TBA novel adaptation.
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Post by mrperson on Jan 25, 2016 20:55:29 GMT
I do not believe there has been any deliberate hype by Big Finish on this occasion. The release date has been announced to allow people the option of buying it separately or in a bundle. Simple as that! Why would you choose to buy an unknown title though? For whatever it's worth: all I need to know is the cost, length, and cast details. At this point, I completely trust BF releases. As long as it stars a classic or new series Doc, I'm buying it. (Unfortunately, that means I don't have much left in my entertainment budget for BF releases not starring official Doctors, seeing as good books and good whiskey are in healthy competition for a slice of that budget)
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Post by dorney on Jan 25, 2016 21:54:01 GMT
Yup. Don't they wait till things are recorded before naming them, anyway? So if it's not been recorded yet, then there's nothing noteworthy about the details not being available. Yes but it's really odd to sell something for months and months without actually saying what it is. What sort of business model is that? A subscription model. It's really not all that strange. Bear in mind, there are details on this one. It's a three disc Doctor Who story, based on a novel. Sure, there's no title. But look at Doctor Who Magazine. I subscribe to that. I've no idea what's going to be in issues twelve months from now, and I'd bet no-one on the planet does. Don't see this is massively different.
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Post by omega on Jan 25, 2016 22:42:54 GMT
Yes but it's really odd to sell something for months and months without actually saying what it is. What sort of business model is that? A subscription model. It's really not all that strange. Bear in mind, there are details on this one. It's a three disc Doctor Who story, based on a novel. Sure, there's no title. But look at Doctor Who Magazine. I subscribe to that. I've no idea what's going to be in issues twelve months from now, and I'd bet no-one on the planet does. Don't see this is massively different. People get a Main Range subscription despite not knowing what Doctor and companions will be featured. The big subscription that covers 42 upcoming titles is an example of this. We only have information for two of the second season of Torchwood audios and that subscription has been available for a couple of months now.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 25, 2016 22:53:20 GMT
Subscriptions are how BF have built their company. I purchased the bundle April of last year. Would I like have known all the releases when I purchased them? Sure but in the end I'm used to the way they offer their product and I trust them. They will announce it when they are ready. Just as they always do.
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Post by Hieronymus on Jan 26, 2016 2:08:13 GMT
I am really leaning towards Fusion, with the deciding factor being if they could get Matthew Waterhouse in or not. Then I'll point out that there is current thread on this forum that indicates Mathematical Excellence will be returning to BF.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 6:25:44 GMT
Subscriptions are how BF have built their company. I purchased the bundle April of last year. Would I like have known all the releases when I purchased them? Sure but in the end I'm used to the way they offer their product and I trust them. They will announce it when they are ready. Just as they always do. And as I've mentioned earlier, in a subscription model, witholding the title makes sense so that if anything goes wrong you can just rejig the sequence. The issue I've got here (and I'm just being awkward, as a download customer I don't find it financially sensible to preorder anything) is that Big Finish are just applying there standard business practice, even though this is a one-off where that business practice makes no sense. Happy Endings would be fantastic.
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Post by omega on Jan 26, 2016 6:46:29 GMT
Subscriptions are how BF have built their company. I purchased the bundle April of last year. Would I like have known all the releases when I purchased them? Sure but in the end I'm used to the way they offer their product and I trust them. They will announce it when they are ready. Just as they always do. And as I've mentioned earlier, in a subscription model, witholding the title makes sense so that if anything goes wrong you can just rejig the sequence. The issue I've got here (and I'm just being awkward, as a download customer I don't find it financially sensible to preorder anything) is that Big Finish are just applying there standard business practice, even though this is a one-off where that business practice makes no sense. Happy Endings would be fantastic. It is like the subscription model in that they needed to get it up for the pre-order bundle to work, as a sizeable number of listeners buy it with the bundle, and wouldn't have wanted to wait for ACF or TOW. As for withholding the title, the slot was first announced seven months ago and won't be released for another eleven. I'm sure they are waiting for the recording or something before announcing the title. Many of the Main Range titles are announced after recording, and the news item includes the cast as well as a photo of them. Many of the announcements in DWM include a picture of the cast (the announcement for the first two Fourth Doctor novel adaptations included a photo of Tom holding one of the books). If it is Cold Fusion like everyone is guessing, it'll be a challenge just getting the Doctors (Peter and Sylvester) and companions (Matthew, Sarah, Janet, Travis and Yasmin) lined up for the same recording days, let alone the guest cast as well. The cast alone for Happy Endings would blow the budget, and be a nightmare to schedule. Part of the appeal is that it's a celebration of the New Adventures reaching 50 books, something that would rather be lost given Big Finish's pick and choose policy for titles to adapt. Let's get Nightshade out of the way first.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 8:32:23 GMT
I love Happy Endings - it's the book equivalent of Journey's End - a celebratory run through of all thats built up to that point in the books. We've not built up terribly much in the novels range on audio so I think the celebratory tone would be odd.
I'm sure we'll learn about the missing title in a DWM story in the next few months.
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Post by omega on Jan 26, 2016 8:51:24 GMT
I love Happy Endings - it's the book equivalent of Journey's End - a celebratory run through of all thats built up to that point in the books. We've not built up terribly much in the novels range on audio so I think the celebratory tone would be odd. Exactly, reading Happy Endings without having read a fair number of the previous 49 New Adventures is like watching The Five Doctors as your first Doctor Who story, The Time of the Doctor as your first Matt Smith story or Journey's End as your first experience of New Who. A big part of it is celebrating what has come before, and without the material being celebrated it loses something. There are a number of dangling plot threads wrapped up (Chelonians and the 8:12's from Highest Science for example), references to the past novels and there's something from almost every one of the first 49 NAs (one of the writers, I think it was Jim Mortimore, didn't want to contribute). There's even a chapter at the reception where every writer for the range (bar the one I just mentioned) contributed a passage, and has the bulk of cameos.
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Post by bobod on Jan 26, 2016 9:12:54 GMT
I am really leaning towards Fusion, with the deciding factor being if they could get Matthew Waterhouse in or not. Then I'll point out that there is current thread on this forum that indicates Mathematical Excellence will be returning to BF. We know what those are though. He tweeted to say he was about to record some stories for BF. And then a few days later tweeted about having done two Short Trips readings.
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Post by bobod on Jan 26, 2016 9:13:27 GMT
I do not believe there has been any deliberate hype by Big Finish on this occasion. The release date has been announced to allow people the option of buying it separately or in a bundle. Simple as that! Why would you choose to buy an unknown title though? Because it's part of a package deal. I but the Liberator Chronicles without knowing what and who will be in them and when they're set. Survivors and Prisoner box sets go on sale without us knowing what the content/writers'characters will be. This instance is being singled out for special attention it doesn't warrant.
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Post by dorney on Jan 26, 2016 9:47:39 GMT
Subscriptions are how BF have built their company. I purchased the bundle April of last year. Would I like have known all the releases when I purchased them? Sure but in the end I'm used to the way they offer their product and I trust them. They will announce it when they are ready. Just as they always do. And as I've mentioned earlier, in a subscription model, witholding the title makes sense so that if anything goes wrong you can just rejig the sequence. The issue I've got here (and I'm just being awkward, as a download customer I don't find it financially sensible to preorder anything) is that Big Finish are just applying there standard business practice, even though this is a one-off where that business practice makes no sense. Happy Endings would be fantastic. The answer here is the one I gave earlier - the production falling through is not the only thing that can change. As a hypothetical example, what if the author changed? Not very likely, but possible.
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Post by pawntake on Jan 26, 2016 19:40:33 GMT
The answer here is the one I gave earlier - the production falling through is not the only thing that can change. As a hypothetical example, what if the author changed? Not very likely, but possible. OMG! don't tell me Doctor Who writers regenerate!! If you do,Can you regenerate into Robert Holmes? please!
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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 26, 2016 19:45:17 GMT
The answer here is the one I gave earlier - the production falling through is not the only thing that can change. As a hypothetical example, what if the author changed? Not very likely, but possible. OMG! don't tell me Doctor Who writers regenerate!! If you do,Can you regenerate into Robert Holmes? please! Sometimes I think Dorney channels Robert Holmes ☺. Cheers Tony
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Post by iank on Mar 31, 2016 1:36:15 GMT
I really hope they're going to do Festival of Death eventually.
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