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Post by mbt66 on May 29, 2017 16:06:04 GMT
Does anyone have any thoughts about who the actress is playing the companion role in this set will be?
If memory serves I think Nick said that she was well known from television and was very pretty. I assume she will be in her twenties or thirties, but that isn't much to go on.
Hayley Atwell? π
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Post by aztec on May 29, 2017 18:31:44 GMT
Does anyone have any thoughts about who the actress is playing the companion role in this set will be? If memory serves I think Nick said that she was well known from television and was very pretty. I assume she will be in her twenties or thirties, but that isn't much to go on. Hayley Atwell? π I don't watch that much UK TV drama so I won't necessarily recognize the name when announced (and the brief soundbite in the trailer didn't sound familiar to me) but after Sheridan Smith and Nicola Walker I'm sure they will have no trouble persuading an equally big name to sign up... Maybe it's Olivia Coleman? Or Phoebe Waller-Bridge? ...Or Miranda Hart Tad dissapointed it's not a a male companion for a change, perhaps McGann has a preference for female companions.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 29, 2017 18:41:04 GMT
Miranda Hart would be amazing!
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Post by aztec on May 29, 2017 18:43:51 GMT
Miranda Hart would be amazing! Not much of a fan personally, admittedly that's judged mainly on the few bits of Miranda I've seen, not sure how good her dramatic work is, but I'd worry casting a comedian would bring too much baggage.
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Post by aztec on May 29, 2017 18:51:58 GMT
Kinda off topic, but I listened to the Return of The Krotons earlier and Philip Madoc's role in the story got me thinking if there is any way to bring back a regenerated War Chief for the time war? (The War Games didn't confirm his fate 100%...), maybe the timelords get desperate during the conflict and are forced to turn to one of their own with experience in such events or the 11 could break him out of prison or something.
Also wondering if this series would be a good place to introduce The Corsair...
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Post by xlozdob on May 30, 2017 0:24:40 GMT
Tad dissapointed it's not a a male companion for a change, perhaps McGann has a preference for female companions. Well, going by the teaser and the news article (it did say new companions plural, instead of companion), it sounds like it's going to be a male and a female. Personally, I subscribe to the theory that it's Todd and Rita.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 2:48:14 GMT
Kinda off topic, but I listened to the Return of The Krotons earlier and Philip Madoc's role in the story got me thinking if there is any way to bring back a regenerated War Chief for the time war? (The War Games didn't confirm his fate 100%...), maybe the timelords get desperate during the conflict and are forced to turn to one of their own with experience in such events or the 11 could break him out of prison or something. Also wondering if this series would be a good place to introduce The Corsair... Philip Madoc has passed away sadly. Back in 2012. But I'd love to see someone else's take on the War Chief.
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Post by Star Platinum on May 30, 2017 6:51:34 GMT
Kinda off topic, but I listened to the Return of The Krotons earlier and Philip Madoc's role in the story got me thinking if there is any way to bring back a regenerated War Chief for the time war? (The War Games didn't confirm his fate 100%...), maybe the timelords get desperate during the conflict and are forced to turn to one of their own with experience in such events or the 11 could break him out of prison or something. Also wondering if this series would be a good place to introduce The Corsair... Philip Madoc has passed away sadly. Back in 2012. But I'd love to see someone else's take on the War Chief. Wasn't Madoc the War Lord? The top dog?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 6:59:31 GMT
Philip Madoc has passed away sadly. Back in 2012. But I'd love to see someone else's take on the War Chief. Wasn't Madoc the War Lord? The top dog? Mm-hm, but he also played a character called the War King in the Faction Paradox series. He's implied to be an older, more benevolent incarnation of the Master (in a universe where the Doctor is very heavily implied to be dead), so there would've been wiggle room for a Maxil moment of recasting. Being a little older and acting with a different personality, he'd have made a nice fit.
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Post by sherlock on May 30, 2017 11:45:27 GMT
Kinda off topic, but I listened to the Return of The Krotons earlier and Philip Madoc's role in the story got me thinking if there is any way to bring back a regenerated War Chief for the time war? (The War Games didn't confirm his fate 100%...), maybe the timelords get desperate during the conflict and are forced to turn to one of their own with experience in such events or the 11 could break him out of prison or something. Also wondering if this series would be a good place to introduce The Corsair... If nothing else bringing back the War Chief might finally resolve the 'is he the Master' debate.
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Post by christmastrenzalore on May 30, 2017 14:23:58 GMT
I wouldn't mind self-contained Box-sets from now, each with their own premise. Maybe have their own sub-headings like the War Doctor Boxs-sets rather than just numbered entries. Doom Coalition did a great job integrating episodic stories in to a larger arc, but it was still primarily an arc-driven series with all the withheld gratification and story building an arc requires. Striking that delicate balance made waiting a year and a half reasonably easy, but 3 years... crikey. Wholly Satisfying: - Dark Eyes initially was self contained.
- DE4 was a terrific loose prologue story that broke away from the grim tone hanging over the series, followed by a very fun and wacky trilogy. The perfunctory box-ticking tying up loose ends is the least good thing about it.
- DC2 Decent opener, strong middle, and a good final story that ends with the defeat of the central antagonist.
- DC4 A culmination of threads from not just Doom Coalition, but even some elements of Dark Eyes and EDAs thrown it. A box that stuck the landing, trotted out good story after good story, and tied a neat bow on the whole shebang with a big climax.
Not as much: - DE2 and 3 sort of work as a unit; while 2 did have a self-contained causal loop (and I'm tempted to stick it in the prior list), it leaves a lot of unanswered questions and ends on a cliff-hanger, most of which are resolved in DE3, which in itself was a little unsatisfying and technobabble flooded. Also, it shifted focus from the Time Controller to The Eminence, who was a less compelling villain because it was always getting duped or used as a pawn, whereas even in defeat, the Time Controller gained some form of victory (spreading the viruses across the cosmos and killing those close to the Doctor).
- DC1, while a strong two openers, the last two stories were a bit weaker, and the climax is both a bit weak, and marred by mystery boxing. I'd have to go back and relisted to the whole thing, but even in the big picture, Satanic Mill doesn't improve with added context.
- DC3 While Absent Friends and the last story garner a lot of good will on their own merits, I find the middle stories to be over-stuffed and messy, and the main villain and their master-plan didn't really become compelling until the next Box. The ending was great though, as it was certainly climactic, and being the penultimate set, I appreciated that kind of ballsy cliffhanger.
So I guess, as long as the individual stories are strong in their own right, and the Box ends on some form of resolution, I wouldn't mind the year long gap at all. I wouldn't mind another arc (especially since Doom Coalition pulled it off so effectively in the long run), but preferably, have some form of sub-resolution and a strong story to close it out.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 30, 2017 17:59:24 GMT
If there are to be box sets with the 8th Doctor that run along with the Time War series, then I to would very much favor that they are self-contained box sets set featuring a 4 hour story as opposed to a huge 16 part story.
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Post by SoundableObject on May 30, 2017 21:29:14 GMT
I've just listened to Dark Eyes in its entirety for the first time. I did enjoy it and look forward to Doom Coalition (which I will buy next month) and the Time War series.
But what struck me while listening to Dark Eyes* is that these darker stories take the Eighth Doctor further away from what makes him my second favourite Doctor. I want the whimsical genius.
If we are going into the Doctor striving to escape the Time War, that'll certainly be dark. What I want from an accompanying series is some fun whimsy again. Sadly it seems it'll be a follow up to Doom Coalition which I imagine will not take him to his pre-Lucie style.
*It was specifically in the moment when the amnesiac Doctor describes the Dalek as his best friend.
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 2, 2017 10:45:10 GMT
I'm not quite sure what to make of the announcement.
I'm looking forward to the first set, and have been since the initial announcement, I've enjoyed The Rulers of the Universe and The Sontaran Ordeal. I can't wait for the two upcoming Short Trips and the Vashta Nerada story.
The trouble is that's 9 Time War penned stories for the Eighth Doctor already, without the announcement of a further 12.
Sir John Hurt - THE War Doctor - only managed to get 12 stories recorded. I understand the reasons behind that, it just seems off to me that Paul McGann will have a total of at least 21 Time War stories come 2020. Surely some of them will just be War Doctor scripts that were sadly not recorded?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 2, 2017 10:56:35 GMT
I'm not quite sure what to make of the announcement. I'm looking forward to the first set, and have been since the initial announcement, I've enjoyed The Rulers of the Universe and The Sontaran Ordeal. I can't wait for the two upcoming Short Trips and the Vashta Nerada story. The trouble is that's 9 Time War penned stories for the Eighth Doctor already, without the announcement of a further 12. Sir John Hurt - THE War Doctor - only managed to get 12 stories recorded. I understand the reasons behind that, it just seems off to me that Paul McGann will have a total of at least 21 Time War stories come 2020. Surely some of them will just be War Doctor scripts that were sadly not recorded? Most likely yes, but reworked for Paul McGann's Doctor. Personally I think four box sets of 8 in the Time War is a great idea. The Sontaran Ordeal wasn't that impressive but I imagine these stories will be much better.
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 2, 2017 11:04:15 GMT
I think four sets and the extra stuff is fine, if John Hurt managed to record two full series of War Doctor audios himself. I can't and don't blame Big Finish for the decision, it's just that McGann / Eight eclipsing Hurt / War in Time War material seems off to me.
In regards to quality, I'm sure every set will be very good indeed. Just the thought of Paul McGann's Doctor running down War torn corridors in that lovely swashbuckling costume is fantastic.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 2, 2017 11:06:35 GMT
I think four sets and the extra stuff is fine, if John Hurt managed to record two full series of War Doctor audios himself. I can't and don't blame Big Finish for the decision, it's just that McGann / Eight eclipsing Hurt / War in Time War material seems off to me. In regards to quality, I'm sure every set will be very good indeed. Just the thought of Paul McGann's Doctor running down War torn corridors in that lovely swashbuckling costume is fantastic. I don't think there's anything stopping Big Finish releasing War Doctor Chronicles with Louise Jameson as Leela. I could see them doing that.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 2, 2017 11:14:05 GMT
I think four sets and the extra stuff is fine, if John Hurt managed to record two full series of War Doctor audios himself. I can't and don't blame Big Finish for the decision, it's just that McGann / Eight eclipsing Hurt / War in Time War material seems off to me. In regards to quality, I'm sure every set will be very good indeed. Just the thought of Paul McGann's Doctor running down War torn corridors in that lovely swashbuckling costume is fantastic. I don't think there's anything stopping Big Finish releasing War Doctor Chronicles with Louise Jameson as Leela. I could see them doing that. Think it's unlikely they'll do anything War Doctor related for a while, just out of respect to John Hurt.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 2, 2017 11:15:26 GMT
I don't think there's anything stopping Big Finish releasing War Doctor Chronicles with Louise Jameson as Leela. I could see them doing that. Think it's unlikely they'll do anything War Doctor related for a while, just out of respect to John Hurt. I don't see why it would be disrespectful though. If anything it would make a nice tribute.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 2, 2017 11:27:28 GMT
Think it's unlikely they'll do anything War Doctor related for a while, just out of respect to John Hurt. I don't see why it would be disrespectful though. If anything it would make a nice tribute. Not disrespectful, but it might be awkward for Big Finish as they actually worked with John Hurt. I imagine a few years down the line they might well do chronicles or short trips, but perhaps now's too soon. Besides, with all these Eighth Doctor boxsets-what more Time War stories do we need?
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