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Post by TinDogPodcast on Feb 3, 2016 16:22:29 GMT
There is more audio who than tv...
The stories are bigger and better...
I've been re watching the dvds... And just went .. Meh
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Post by OneTen on Feb 3, 2016 16:33:40 GMT
How can it be wrong when it feels so right? ;-)
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Post by randomjc on Feb 3, 2016 16:37:05 GMT
Are we a step away from making audio adaptations of lost episodes?
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Post by jasonward on Feb 3, 2016 16:39:33 GMT
If you mean in a moral way, then no, morality is a human construct, and as this one has no consequence to me, why should I judge your opinion?
If you mean as a matter of fact, then no, regardless of your opinion about the quality, there is far more Doctor Who on audio than TV, but worth noting, there's probably more Who in comics and books too.
If you'd like a perhaps more comfortable and inclusive way to define Doctor Who, it's truly multi-media - TV, Film, Books, Audio, Comics, Cartoon even Music live and recorded.
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Post by constonks on Feb 3, 2016 17:51:25 GMT
If you mean in a moral way, then no, morality is a human construct, and as this one has no consequence to me, why should I judge your opinion? If you mean as a matter of fact, then no, regardless of your opinion about the quality, there is far more Doctor Who on audio than TV, but worth noting, there's probably more Who in comics and books too. If you'd like a perhaps more comfortable and inclusive way to define Doctor Who, it's truly multi-media - TV, Film, Books, Audio, Comics, Cartoon even Music live and recorded. I think audio is actually the main medium of Doctor Who at this point. There are more books than TV episodes but there are definitely more audios than books, if you're counting Monthly Range, Companion Chronicles, Lost Stories, etc. In fact, all the Docs except the Third and Ninth to Twelfth have more audio stories than TV stories. The Seventh and Eighth mayyy still have more books than audios as well.
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Post by kimalysong on Feb 3, 2016 18:07:38 GMT
Are we a step away from making audio adaptations of lost episodes? Not really needed. There are already "audio episodes" of the lost episodes. Anyways not sure if I would say Doctor Who is an audio show as I expect more fans exclusively watch the TV series. However my favorite medium for Doctor Who is definitely on audio. For the longest time I considered myself only a casual fan of Doctor Who. Two things changed that 1) Watching Patrick Troughton's era...before that I never really had a clear favorite Doctor or era of the series 2) Discovering Big Finish. Without these 2 things I don't think I would be interacting with other fans on message boards, spending money on the franchise, and going to Doctor Who cons. And quite frankly without Big Finish I don't think I would have stuck so strongly in the Doctor Who fandom. As much as I love Troughton his era has an ending and it's not like you are going to get new stories on TV. With Big Finish though I can continue to enjoy new Doctor Who stories. And while I do enjoy the new episodes on TV I am definitely not as excited about them as I am about new audio adventures. I still feel pretty casual about them. Although it was Troughton's era that made me look for stories in the extended universe. I would never have discovered Big Finish if I wasn't looking for more 2nd Doctor stories.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 18:15:15 GMT
Jason nailed it, it's multi-media. The concept abides, in many formats. We're the lucky ones getting to be fans of the show and the audios - think how many more adventures we've had than someone just watching TV. Then, for myself and others, we've read all the books going back to Target and through Virgin, and we've read comics from TV-21 (reprints for me! ) right up to Titan. It's not any one thing which, given the concept of the show, is apt. I'd hope more than a few TV only fans take the chance to find out more about BF in this year.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 3, 2016 19:07:35 GMT
Its all based on the TV show though. All of the Doctors have debuted on TV, and BF just uses the TV Doctors. The TV show is also free to ignore BF if they want, while BF can't do anything that the BBC doesn't want them to. There may be more audio, but the primary story is on TV.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 3, 2016 19:08:09 GMT
Are we a step away from making audio adaptations of lost episodes? That seems kind of pointless, since the lost episodes still exist as audio.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 19:11:43 GMT
Are we a step away from making audio adaptations of lost episodes? To me, thats exactly what the BBC soundtrack releases are, the added narration turns them into audio adaptations of the original.
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Post by chapwithwings on Feb 3, 2016 19:39:26 GMT
absolutely not - as much as I ADORE Capaldi I long for scripts as good as Big Finish on TV.
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Post by randomjc on Feb 3, 2016 20:08:33 GMT
Are we a step away from making audio adaptations of lost episodes? That seems kind of pointless, since the lost episodes still exist as audio. Hm...Seemed like a fun idea to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:07:43 GMT
That seems kind of pointless, since the lost episodes still exist as audio. Hm...Seemed like a fun idea to me. Sorry, let me be clear, are you suggesting having, for example, a new version of Power of the Daleks with Frazer replacing Patrick?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:08:34 GMT
absolutely not - as much as I ADORE Capaldi I long for scripts as good as Big Finish on TV. Yeah, Dark Eyes was ten times better than Series 9.
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Post by randomjc on Feb 3, 2016 21:15:43 GMT
Hm...Seemed like a fun idea to me. Sorry, let me be clear, are you suggesting having, for example, a new version of Power of the Daleks with Frazer replacing Patrick? Short of it, yes. Long of it, using the idea of the Avengers adaptations, creating smoother retellings of lost stories. For those who are narration averse. It seems like a fun idea/experiment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:32:25 GMT
Sorry, let me be clear, are you suggesting having, for example, a new version of Power of the Daleks with Frazer replacing Patrick? Short of it, yes. Long of it, using the idea of the Avengers adaptations, creating smoother retellings of lost stories. For those who are narration averse. It seems like a fun idea/experiment. I'm not sure. For the actors, it just seems like well-trodden ground for the actors with the narration, novelisation readings and DVD commentaries - I think it's probably better to move on and do new things with the characters and revisit elements of the First and Second Doctor ersa through the Companion Chronicles and Early Adventures.
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Post by randomjc on Feb 3, 2016 21:36:55 GMT
Short of it, yes. Long of it, using the idea of the Avengers adaptations, creating smoother retellings of lost stories. For those who are narration averse. It seems like a fun idea/experiment. I'm not sure. For the actors, it just seems like well-trodden ground for the actors with the narration, novelisation readings and DVD commentaries - I think it's probably better to move on and do new things with the characters and revisit elements of the First and Second Doctor ersa through the Companion Chronicles and Early Adventures. Possibly.
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Post by ljwilson on Feb 3, 2016 21:49:42 GMT
For me, i much prefer the audios to the TV episodes. Im not a huge DW fan and find a fair bit of the TV stuff to be not very good. And that includes both eras on TV.
But, I much prefer the radio and audio medium in general to the TV, so what do i know eh? I even like football on the radio.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:52:26 GMT
Sorry, let me be clear, are you suggesting having, for example, a new version of Power of the Daleks with Frazer replacing Patrick? Short of it, yes. Long of it, using the idea of the Avengers adaptations, creating smoother retellings of lost stories. For those who are narration averse. It seems like a fun idea/experiment. Apples and oranges. The Avengers is only of interest because there are not a full set of soundtracks or even scripts for the missing eps. That range is truly recreating, as close as possible, an entire era long thought lost. We don't need to do that with Who, we've got them all. You can bet if Avengers Series 1 was intact BF wouldn't have bothered doing that. The last round of Doctor Who missing ep releases, collated in the wonderful Lost TV Episodes boxsets, have newly written and recorded linking narration added to the missing ep soundtracks and they are much, much better than the narration from the 90s versions. Tom Baker did a couple in character back then, which was cool, but the last wave were specifically re-written with narration to explain as much as need be to appreciate the story. Remaking all of those seems like an awful expense for very little artistic merit and I think extremely limited commercial appeal. I'm all for recasting, but not when I can listen to Pat Troughton instead.
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Post by ljwilson on Feb 3, 2016 21:58:32 GMT
Davy, who released the boxsets, BF or the BBC? Post a link please
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