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Post by randomjc on Feb 5, 2016 15:22:05 GMT
Forgive me if this has already been talked to death, but I've been thinking about this recently.
For the Main Range, I've been less and less willing to get subs, mostly cost reasons, I can't afford a 6 or 12 month sub. I could buy month to month, but since I'm a tad of a completionist, I know I'd have to get them all. Which means waiting for sales (Which I'm perfectly happy doing). That of course means not remaining current on the Main Range, again something I'm more or less fine being. Except every so often we get these trilogies that I'd really want to listen to. Specifically the Multi-Master one we're about to have.
So my question is, what is everyone's thoughts on a 3-Release sub. especially with BF being so trilogy driven for years now. Or maybe they should have pre-order prices. Just some thoughts, curious what any one else thinks.
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Post by Tony Jones on Feb 5, 2016 15:35:51 GMT
This came up at a BF Day some years ago. I think Nick said the margins are such that the minimum sensible subscription is six
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Post by randomjc on Feb 5, 2016 15:38:57 GMT
I don't really expect as much a discount, as a six sub, but it feels like bundling them in threes is a natural idea. Maybe another look is in order, now that things have shifted in the last few years, with more special releases, and box-sets, and even New Who.
But thank you for the answer.
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Post by redsharkJason on Feb 5, 2016 17:12:34 GMT
A 3-pack Main Range subscription sounds like a good idea to me. Even with a marginal discount of 15% would still be a purchase reward benefit. At minimum I suggest 15%, because many customers can already get 3.33 individual MR CD titles (or 3.85 downloads) for 10% off when spending £50, if you are geographically located in the UK. The 6 and 12 Main Range subscriptions have a 35% discount.
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Post by muckypup on Feb 5, 2016 17:27:25 GMT
may be a 3 issue sub would be a good idea, but if margins are too small keep the full price but give them the subscriber extras, that would cost nothing!
but the most sensible subs change would be 13 and not 12.
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Post by Tony Jones on Feb 5, 2016 17:41:36 GMT
You need to also bear in mind the idea of 'magic prices' ie people will pay 2.99, 9.99 and so forth. I suppose currency calculations might make that somewhat nugatory though. For me I would just move the main range to 12 titles a year (even though elsewhere I have pointed out this would be expensive - I am not sure I still think that with all the new series boxsets)
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Post by randomjc on Feb 5, 2016 18:25:22 GMT
Magic prices go out the window when the price is converted outside the pound though. (US right now 21.97, which is an odd number to be sure.)
Though I do agree that since there a 12 sub should include 13. (and since they've stopped giving out those subscriber special discs anyway...) Yes, I know that isn't financially possible. But to be honest, without the free sub only disc, I've kind of lost interest in Subs.
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Post by redsharkJason on Feb 5, 2016 18:43:20 GMT
I like having other *good options* even though at present, I have both the interest and means to continue buying 12 CD (or more) subscriptions. I'll end up buying all 12 consecutive MR releases anyway, so the free £10.99 disc is a big carrot to me. It would be even more ideal to have the allowance to select a pre-order product as a free gift option.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 19:56:19 GMT
Well if you buy four you qualify for the 10% discount, but that does jar with the preponderance of trilogies, perhaps the idea of a trilogy bundle would work. The problem is anything you offer in the bundle weakens the appeal of the subscription option, and I can't see BF wanting to do that, it's probably taken enough of a hit already from the loss of the subscriber exclusive title.
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Post by randomjc on Feb 5, 2016 21:41:42 GMT
Well if you buy four you qualify for the 10% discount, but that does jar with the preponderance of trilogies, perhaps the idea of a trilogy bundle would work. The problem is anything you offer in the bundle weakens the appeal of the subscription option, and I can't see BF wanting to do that, it's probably taken enough of a hit already from the loss of the subscriber exclusive title. I don't think anyone outside the UK gets that 10%. I'm not sure how a 3 bundle would mess with subs, it's pretty much just a smaller sub.
I wish that I could get 10% off if I bought a lot at once from BF, or even free shipping. It gets painful when I can buy MR items, and it'd cost me almost 100 dollars.
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 6, 2016 7:54:10 GMT
Only the UK get 10% discount if you spend £50 or more, but that doesn't work on subs or pre-orders.
I would have preferred to buy the Master Trilogy as a 3 story sub, but in the long run it was more cost effective to get a 6 story sub for just over £15 more. Of course it only works if I decide I want the next 3 - if they don't interest me when they are announced, I've actually lost money (it makes sense in my head). So a Trilogy sub would be better for me (but possibly less money for BF).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 8:07:48 GMT
Only the UK get 10% discount if you spend £50 or more, but that doesn't work on subs or pre-orders. I would have preferred to buy the Master Trilogy as a 3 story sub, but in the long run it was more cost effective to get a 6 story sub for just over £15 more. Of course it only works if I decide I want the next 3 - if they don't interest me when they are announced, I've actually lost money (it makes sense in my head). So a Trilogy sub would be better for me (but possibly less money for BF). Cheers Tony I guess you could always sell them on Ebay if you don't like them to make tour money back. It's a tricky dilemma. the second flip trilogy, for example, had two dreadful stories in it so it would be nice to pick and choose, but the 12 title sub is such good value - if you want every title in the range. The trilogy after the Master one could be awful, but we don't know much about it yet. And I think they deliberately throw in single releases so that your 12 release subs don't start and finish in line with the trilogies, basically forcing subscribers to constantly renew. Clever psychology, but really annoying.
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 6, 2016 8:16:17 GMT
Only the UK get 10% discount if you spend £50 or more, but that doesn't work on subs or pre-orders. I would have preferred to buy the Master Trilogy as a 3 story sub, but in the long run it was more cost effective to get a 6 story sub for just over £15 more. Of course it only works if I decide I want the next 3 - if they don't interest me when they are announced, I've actually lost money (it makes sense in my head). So a Trilogy sub would be better for me (but possibly less money for BF). Cheers Tony I guess you could always sell them on Ebay if you don't like them to make tour money back. Unfortunately I can't sell downloads on Ebay . Buying them on CD would have cost too much so went for the download Cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 8:19:18 GMT
I guess you could always sell them on Ebay if you don't like them to make tour money back. Unfortunately I can't sell downloads on Ebay . Buying them on CD would have cost too much so went for the download Cheers Tony I'm a downloader myself, but so few people on here seem to be I never considered that!
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 6, 2016 8:24:05 GMT
Unfortunately I can't sell downloads on Ebay . Buying them on CD would have cost too much so went for the download Cheers Tony I'm a downloader myself, but so few people on here seem to be I never considered that! I'm generally download only, and only get a physical copy if it's something extra special or the cost is identical Cheers Tony
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Post by mbt66 on Feb 6, 2016 15:15:07 GMT
No longer being a monthly range subscriber I planned to cherry pick the releases that I felt that I really wanted. Basically I expect I will get the multi-Doctor trilogies and the Sixth Doctor trilogies...I wouldn't be surprised if others feel the same seeing as the Sixth Doctor's releases never seem to be scheduled next to the multi-Doctor trilogies, so the sixth month subscription is never an option.
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