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Post by bobod on Feb 12, 2016 11:58:13 GMT
I've never made it to the end of TV Survivors.
I *LOVE* series one. And on my first attempt I gave up around Lights of London, I definitely saw that one. And then years later I gave up in series three after the first Greg ep.
Series one is definitely where it's at.
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Post by bobod on Feb 12, 2016 11:58:49 GMT
and while we're on the subject surely we have to come across charles at some point. Pleasey. |
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Post by renny on Feb 12, 2016 13:21:59 GMT
I've never made it to the end of TV Survivors. I *LOVE* series one. And on my first attempt I gave up around Lights of London, I definitely saw that one. And then years later I gave up in series three after the first Greg ep. Series one is definitely where it's at. well I've just ordered the box set of all 3 tv series - I had the first 2 anyway but wth - so I guess I'm going to find out. but I do agree with you series one is absolutely superb. that's what makes the new stories so good - they're in the same vein. I seem to remember episodes in series 2 about a witch and then reinventing religion. oh well into the hands of fate. . |
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Feb 13, 2016 22:12:54 GMT
As I understand it Big Finish is doing "Terry Nation's Survivors" and seems to be focussed on the 7 episodes written by the show's creator.
All 4 returning cast-members made their debuts in episodes written by Terry Nation
Of course, Big Finish are dealing with the estate of Terry Nation for Daleks and Blakes 7 and do not have the rights for the 4th season of Blakes 7 which Terry Nation was not involved in.
So far, Big Finish has taken what was written by Terry Nation and extrapolated from it adding their own stories and characters.
I do not know if they have the rights to the other 6 episodes of the first series (in which Charles was introduced) and doubt if they have the rights to the later series (after Terry Nation left).
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Post by renny on Feb 13, 2016 22:55:34 GMT
As I understand it Big Finish is doing "Terry Nation's Survivors" and seems to be focussed on the 7 episodes written by the show's creator. All 4 returning cast-members made their debuts in episodes written by Terry Nation Of course, Big Finish are dealing with the estate of Terry Nation for Daleks and Blakes 7 and do not have the rights for the 4th season of Blakes 7 which Terry Nation was not involved in. So far, Big Finish has taken what was written by Terry Nation and extrapolated from it adding their own stories and characters. I do not know if they have the rights to the other 6 episodes of the first series (in which Charles was introduced) and doubt if they have the rights to the later series (after Terry Nation left). hmmm that's a very good point. I wonder if this means there might be a divergence (sorry ) between the TV and audio series ahead? that would certainly enable some form of closure. . . |
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Post by Trace on Feb 14, 2016 0:54:59 GMT
As I understand it Big Finish is doing "Terry Nation's Survivors" and seems to be focussed on the 7 episodes written by the show's creator. All 4 returning cast-members made their debuts in episodes written by Terry Nation Of course, Big Finish are dealing with the estate of Terry Nation for Daleks and Blakes 7 and do not have the rights for the 4th season of Blakes 7 which Terry Nation was not involved in. So far, Big Finish has taken what was written by Terry Nation and extrapolated from it adding their own stories and characters. I do not know if they have the rights to the other 6 episodes of the first series (in which Charles was introduced) and doubt if they have the rights to the later series (after Terry Nation left). I don't think I've ever heard/read this--that BF is only following those 7 eps! That's news to me. |
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Post by Digi on Feb 14, 2016 2:02:17 GMT
I find that a little unlikely. If Terry Nation had absolute control of the series/franchise, either he would have had total creative control or else it would have ended when he walked away, rather than carrying on for another couple of seasons.
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Post by The Matt on Feb 14, 2016 8:17:08 GMT
As I understand it Big Finish is doing "Terry Nation's Survivors" and seems to be focussed on the 7 episodes written by the show's creator. All 4 returning cast-members made their debuts in episodes written by Terry Nation Of course, Big Finish are dealing with the estate of Terry Nation for Daleks and Blakes 7 and do not have the rights for the 4th season of Blakes 7 which Terry Nation was not involved in. So far, Big Finish has taken what was written by Terry Nation and extrapolated from it adding their own stories and characters. I do not know if they have the rights to the other 6 episodes of the first series (in which Charles was introduced) and doubt if they have the rights to the later series (after Terry Nation left). hmmm that's a very good point. I wonder if this means there might be a divergence (sorry ) between the TV and audio series ahead? that would certainly enable some form of closure. . . I hope that closure is a long way off. I don't want this series to end for a long time yet. |
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Post by renny on Feb 14, 2016 10:55:51 GMT
of course! I agree completely. it's just there is an opportunity here and it would be a real shame, what with the obvious quality, to see it wasted. don't get me wrong I am loving the new stories and am really looking forward to listening to many more episodes.
isn't it about time there was a proper survivors thread?
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Post by bobod on Mar 7, 2016 14:49:37 GMT
I find that a little unlikely. If Terry Nation had absolute control of the series/franchise, either he would have had total creative control or else it would have ended when he walked away, rather than carrying on for another couple of seasons. You could say the same about Blakes 7 - for which, as we know, BF only have the rights for the Terry-involved stuff. |
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Post by Digi on Mar 8, 2016 0:05:30 GMT
I find that a little unlikely. If Terry Nation had absolute control of the series/franchise, either he would have had total creative control or else it would have ended when he walked away, rather than carrying on for another couple of seasons. You could say the same about Blakes 7 - for which, as we know, BF only have the rights for the Terry-involved stuff. That's interesting. I don't follow Blake's 7 at all, so I really can't speak to it, but it really puzzles me if that's the case. I can't wrap my head around how that sort of rights arrangement would work, being part of a larger body of work. Still, whatever the case, I think we can all agree that BF is doing a stellar job with Survivors. At least for my part, I think they'll make me very happy with every release  |
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Post by bobod on Mar 8, 2016 9:04:32 GMT
You could say the same about Blakes 7 - for which, as we know, BF only have the rights for the Terry-involved stuff. That's interesting. I don't follow Blake's 7 at all, so I really can't speak to it, but it really puzzles me if that's the case. I can't wrap my head around how that sort of rights arrangement would work, being part of a larger body of work. Writers rights can be complicated things. Remember *the BBC themselves* have to have an agreement from Terry Nation's estate to use the Daleks. At one point they weren't sure they could use them in the Eccleston season.
And there's Nyssa who was only created for an individual story so the BBC had to deal with Johnny Byrne to use her in other writers' stories.
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 10, 2016 16:11:08 GMT
So random I am listening to Mothers Courage from series 2 and I had to laugh at the part where they commented 3 months pregnant you are hardly showing.
That's true for pretty much everyone who is 3 months pregnant. In fact I would argue it is almost impossible to tell just by looking at someone at that point.
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Post by Trace on Mar 11, 2016 3:06:54 GMT
So random I am listening to Mothers Courage from series 2 and I had to laugh at the part where they commented 3 months pregnant you are hardly showing. That's true for pretty much everyone who is 3 months pregnant. In fact I would argue it is almost impossible to tell just by looking at someone at that point. This is very true. 3 months rarely shows...5, yes. 3, no. |
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Mar 12, 2016 17:17:44 GMT
That's interesting. I don't follow Blake's 7 at all, so I really can't speak to it, but it really puzzles me if that's the case. I can't wrap my head around how that sort of rights arrangement would work, being part of a larger body of work. Writers rights can be complicated things. Remember *the BBC themselves* have to have an agreement from Terry Nation's estate to use the Daleks. At one point they weren't sure they could use them in the Eccleston season.
And there's Nyssa who was only created for an individual story so the BBC had to deal with Johnny Byrne to use her in other writers' stories.
I understand that on Dr Who the writers retain co-ownership of any character or creature created only for a single story and got paid royalties whenever the characters/creatures appeared again - a good incentive for writers to invent people and things good enough to encourage re-use. I understand that issues with the rights to the Survivors resulted in the 2008 remake being based on the book (using the rights to that) instead of the original TV series |
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Post by bobod on Mar 13, 2016 10:46:05 GMT
You understand correctly in both cases.
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 30, 2016 18:38:51 GMT
Just listened to the first episode of Series 3...that was fantastic. And of course of all the characters to survive it has to be a nasty one like that...
Not that I didn't enjoy series 2 but series 3 is already off to a stronger start IMO.
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Post by elkawho on Mar 31, 2016 0:56:05 GMT
Just listened to the first episode of Series 3...that was fantastic. And of course of all the characters to survive it has to be a nasty one like that... Not that I didn't enjoy series 2 but series 3 is already off to a stronger start IMO. I love the entire range, but series 3 is my favorite by far. Enjoy! (That sounds like a really weird thing to say about Survivors.) |
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Post by The Matt on Mar 31, 2016 11:27:44 GMT
I agree, series 3 is probably the best so far, then series 1 and with series 2 being the weakest. Although weakest isn't the best word to describe it as it is still very very good |
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Post by kastoniago on Dec 22, 2017 22:27:54 GMT
Now we've officially exceeded the events of the original TV series, and the events of Series 7 have certainly been a game changer - What do you think will happen to the series in the future?
Personally, I think Series 9 will be Big Finish's last Survivors box set. We haven't yet had anymore pre-orders being made available, and now that the series will take place after the natural end point of the TV series, I think that spells the natural end point for the audio series shortly.
I would also like to see the return of Richard Heffer to the series regulars. We haven't heard from Jimmy Garland since Series 3, and Richard Heffer definitely left a strong impression with his performance in that series. |
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