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Post by omega on Oct 22, 2018 20:44:43 GMT
Wait until Roger Davis as Jeff Clark starts covering the lines up. And shows more chemistry with Lang than he does with Vicki.
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Post by silverednickle on Oct 24, 2018 18:58:08 GMT
To be fair, I think that Davis was a bit aggressive with many of the actresses. He threw Joan Bennett around so aggressively in 1897 that she refused to work with him after that. You watch that likely scene and it does look far too method.
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Post by newt5996 on Oct 24, 2018 19:44:44 GMT
To be fair, I think that Davis was a bit aggressive with many of the actresses. He threw Joan Bennett around so aggressively in 1897 that she refused to work with him after that. You watch that likely scene and it does look far too method. Seriously though, why did the creators keep giving him parts after that? Like why bring him back as Tate after Dirk Wilkins? Why not try and get a new actor in?
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Post by bobod on Oct 24, 2018 20:02:57 GMT
It’s not mate. And you’re at the point where Vicki becomes complete dead weight. I am finding only Dr Lang remembers his lines 😂 Rembembering them wasn't his problem.
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Post by barnabaslives on Oct 24, 2018 20:50:43 GMT
Seriously though, why did the creators keep giving him parts after that? Like why bring him back as Tate after Dirk Wilkins? Why not try and get a new actor in? Good question, I'm curious to know that myself. I do like Davis, though - all of his characters seem to have a wonderfully edgy, slightly unhinged quality. It's maybe a bit one-note but it seems like a very harmonious note for an edgy, slightly (increasingly) unhinged series. (Jeff Clark's romance with Vicky might have been an exception if we in the audience had not known some of the gruesome things that Vicki didn't).
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Post by silverednickle on Oct 30, 2018 16:11:28 GMT
Seriously though, why did the creators keep giving him parts after that? Like why bring him back as Tate after Dirk Wilkins? Why not try and get a new actor in? Good question, I'm curious to know that myself. I do like Davis, though - all of his characters seem to have a wonderfully edgy, slightly unhinged quality. It's maybe a bit one-note but it seems like a very harmonious note for an edgy, slightly (increasingly) unhinged series. (Jeff Clark's romance with Vicky might have been an exception if we in the audience had not known some of the gruesome things that Vicki didn't). From what I can recall, Davis mentioned in one interview or another that some thought of his as "Dan's [Curtis] little pet." He did do unhinged well, but maybe make those solo scenes or at least pair him with someone he couldn't literally throw about.
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Post by Trace on Oct 30, 2018 23:53:02 GMT
He really gives one of his best performances (in my opinion) on the audio "The Blind Painter"--restrained, emotional, dare I say even nuanced? Of course, he has the wonderful Nicola Bryant as the other voice in this two-hander. It's really lovely!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 7:34:01 GMT
He really gives one of his best performances (in my opinion) on the audio "The Blind Painter"--restrained, emotional, dare I say even nuanced? Of course, he has the wonderful Nicola Bryant as the other voice in this two-hander. It's really lovely! so do the other members NOT want to do audios with him lol?
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Post by omega on Oct 31, 2018 21:49:38 GMT
He really gives one of his best performances (in my opinion) on the audio "The Blind Painter"--restrained, emotional, dare I say even nuanced? Of course, he has the wonderful Nicola Bryant as the other voice in this two-hander. It's really lovely! The tone of the story helps, as it's Tate looking back over a dark period in his life and he's more restrained in his reflections. He's probably had enough time to get the anger out. It's a shame Roger Davis hasn't contributed more to the audios as there are a few characters he could expand on. Peter Bradford for example, following up on where he and Vicki were left after their escape from Collinwood and the terrors that lurk there in 1797. Even Jeff Clark's internal struggle with his past life has potential. Doing this in the short stories means only Davis needs to be in the studio.
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Post by Trace on Oct 31, 2018 23:32:03 GMT
He really gives one of his best performances (in my opinion) on the audio "The Blind Painter"--restrained, emotional, dare I say even nuanced? Of course, he has the wonderful Nicola Bryant as the other voice in this two-hander. It's really lovely! so do the other members NOT want to do audios with him lol? Haha! I can’t speak to that...I don’t know for sure. But, seeing his interactions with other actors at the Festivals over the years leads me to feel that they get on ‘ok’ with him in small doses....there’s lighthearted eye-rolling, and at one point when he was rambling on about the “millions” he’s made in real estate in the Hollywood Hills, Kathryn Leigh Scott got up and pretended to forcibly drag him off the stage. It’s all quite funny actually! It’s more like “Davis is up....here we go again!” rather than “I’m not working with him!”
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Post by omega on Oct 31, 2018 23:50:03 GMT
so do the other members NOT want to do audios with him lol? Haha! I can’t speak to that...I don’t know for sure. But, seeing his interactions with other actors at the Festivals over the years leads me to feel that they get on ‘ok’ with him in small doses....there’s lighthearted eye-rolling, and at one point when he was rambling on about the “millions” he’s made in real estate in the Hollywood Hills, Kathryn Leigh Scott got up and pretended to forcibly drag him off the stage. It’s all quite funny actually! It’s more like “Davis is up....here we go again!” rather than “I’m not working with him!” At least with the short stories it's just him, the director and other crew in the recording studio. Maybe he's mellowed in recent years compared to his behaviour on set in the 60's, I haven't seen much of the behind the scenes of him recently. Matthew Waterhouse has come far since he first appeared in Doctor Who in the 80's (he was a teenager when filming, and we all get above ourselves at that time). On screen Roger Davis got remarkably physical with some of the actresses and I wonder how much of Alexandra Moltke's decision to leave was based on Davis's behaviour when the camera wasn't rolling.
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Post by omega on Oct 31, 2018 23:58:33 GMT
This storyline with Dr Lang ends up being the beginning of the end for different storylines starting and ending at different times, with an upcoming arc marking where the show takes a season based approach to the storytelling that we saw in 1795. Come 1895 and there's a definite start and end for each major arc or setting, which usually involves a sudden massacre of most of the new characters at the end as well as teasing for the next arc or setting. It's an interesting transition from what's normally standard soap opera storytelling.
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Post by silverednickle on Nov 1, 2018 17:49:45 GMT
I think part of it is that they intentionally used 1795 to sort of reset Barnabas. He was significantly humanized back then. Plus it allowed time for the audience to forget some of the bad stuff he did along the way. In addition, there sort of feels like there were a few things they were testing. Carolyn seemed to have a few different guys thrown into her storylines before Chris Jennings (including Harry Johnson and Tony Peterson) almost like they were testing acting chemistry and the fans' responses. In addition, 1795 was the first break from the plots building since episode one, so there was definitely a bit of bringing back some pre flashback storylines or nicely ending them, and building off what worked lately.
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Post by newt5996 on Nov 17, 2018 5:50:28 GMT
At 863 so there’s the body switch and hypnotized Evan plot which is great and all but since Judith came back I’ve become more onvested in the fact that she’s obviously planning revenge on Gregory for the stunts he’s pulled. Also just more Charity Trask please, that is all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 6:50:19 GMT
I had a pause in viewing to catch up with other stuff.Outlander restarted
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Post by newt5996 on Nov 27, 2018 3:12:58 GMT
I'm at 880 meaning the end of 1897 is nigh and you can really feel that they're going somewhere fast with this one. Judith Collins has gotten her sweet, sweet revenge on Gregory Trask which is an extremely satisfying conclusion to their story arc. The death of Beth Chavez is interesting on Quentin's character especially with the whole body swap storyline that was written into the show giving both David Selby and Thayer David a chance to play different characters. It seems that Angelique has done her work for this storyline at least so it will be interesting to see when she pops up again and Barnabas seems to be cured as a vampire for the time being, though isn't that a paradox? It's kind of satisfying seeing the ghost of Garth Blackwood chase Aristede around the place for revenge against Petofi even if I really shouldn't be rooting for them. Also apparently King Johnny Romano had a wife who's come for revenge as well which is weird for that plot point to come back. Nancy Barrett continues to steal the show as Pansy Faye/Charity Trask, which makes me sad that we're going back to the less crazy Carolyn Stoddard in about 5 episodes time.
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Post by Trace on Nov 28, 2018 2:44:23 GMT
I'm at 880 meaning the end of 1897 is nigh and you can really feel that they're going somewhere fast with this one. Judith Collins has gotten her sweet, sweet revenge on Gregory Trask which is an extremely satisfying conclusion to their story arc. The death of Beth Chavez is interesting on Quentin's character especially with the whole body swap storyline that was written into the show giving both David Selby and Thayer David a chance to play different characters. It seems that Angelique has done her work for this storyline at least so it will be interesting to see when she pops up again and Barnabas seems to be cured as a vampire for the time being, though isn't that a paradox? It's kind of satisfying seeing the ghost of Garth Blackwood chase Aristede around the place for revenge against Petofi even if I really shouldn't be rooting for them. Also apparently King Johnny Romano had a wife who's come for revenge as well which is weird for that plot point to come back. Nancy Barrett continues to steal the show as Pansy Faye/Charity Trask, which makes me sad that we're going back to the less crazy Carolyn Stoddard in about 5 episodes time. Wow! I was NEVER sad to get back to Carolyn! She, along with Maggie, are the moral (and human) anchors for the show! I’m sure I do know what you mean though...you like Pansy/Charity’s over-the-top persona. Fear not—more great Nancy Barrett character acting coming your way! You have some great Carolyn stuff in a couple different times (!), plus more new characters and some that will be familiar!
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Post by newt5996 on Nov 28, 2018 4:13:10 GMT
I'm at 880 meaning the end of 1897 is nigh and you can really feel that they're going somewhere fast with this one. Judith Collins has gotten her sweet, sweet revenge on Gregory Trask which is an extremely satisfying conclusion to their story arc. The death of Beth Chavez is interesting on Quentin's character especially with the whole body swap storyline that was written into the show giving both David Selby and Thayer David a chance to play different characters. It seems that Angelique has done her work for this storyline at least so it will be interesting to see when she pops up again and Barnabas seems to be cured as a vampire for the time being, though isn't that a paradox? It's kind of satisfying seeing the ghost of Garth Blackwood chase Aristede around the place for revenge against Petofi even if I really shouldn't be rooting for them. Also apparently King Johnny Romano had a wife who's come for revenge as well which is weird for that plot point to come back. Nancy Barrett continues to steal the show as Pansy Faye/Charity Trask, which makes me sad that we're going back to the less crazy Carolyn Stoddard in about 5 episodes time. Wow! I was NEVER sad to get back to Carolyn! She, along with Maggie, are the moral (and human) anchors for the show! I’m sure I do know what you mean though...you like Pansy/Charity’s over-the-top persona. Fear not—more great Nancy Barrett character acting coming your way! You have some great Carolyn stuff in a couple different times (!), plus more new characters and some that will be familiar! Carolyn isn't a bad character, she just seem so bland in comparison to the characters Barrett gets to play in 1795 and 1897. Millicent is such a bubbly personality and her deceit by Forbes is great and Charity and Pansy are just so much fun. The real fun Carolyn gets close to is her involvement in the Jason McGuire scheme and the nightmare sequence in the middle of 1897.
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Post by newt5996 on Dec 12, 2018 19:25:17 GMT
I'm only at 890 and the beginning of the Leviathan story arc and if I'm going to be honest I'm enjoying it, but not for the right reasons. The characters are quite insane and the idea of casting Marie Wallace as Megan Todd is just perplexing: she can't play a normal person like Megan is supposed to be which is a fun to watch even if it doesn't make any in story sense. I also like how Julia is pretty much in the forefront which is great after 1897 where she was gone for so much of it, yes there was Magda, but Magda is a very different character from Julia. Though we could do without the is Charles Delaware Tate alive plot.
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Post by newt5996 on Jan 4, 2019 21:48:16 GMT
I'm at 906 and I guess Quentin may or may not be back. There's a character called Grant Douglas, but with Olivia Corey basically being Amanda Harris, the fact that Petofi said Quentin was immortal, and there is something underneath Julia's Tate, I'm pretty sure it's Quentin. This may sound odd, but Yay! David is possessed! It's always fun when that happens. Sadly Alexander, the Leviathan child, is perhaps the worst child actor on the show which is a shame after the likes of David, Amy, and Sarah who have been pretty good in the acting department. I don't know why people don't really like the Leviathan story arc as I've liked it so far: there's a good attempt at cosmic horror here and Marie Wallace is great. I don't know if it will take a turn for the worse as I've got what 50ish episodes of the story arc and apparently Angelique is thrown in the works there.
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