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Post by captainpugwash on Mar 12, 2016 14:21:13 GMT
hello all, as a long time fan of big finish my shelves are groaning, so to save space would you prefer the box sets to be in individual Jewel cases or in a prevex box? In case anyone does not know what a prevex box is, it's the plastic box with a spindle that holds all the CDs together. They are used by bbc audio for their new series book readings, and big finish used them for Dorian Grey.
I would like the prevex boxes to be used. You can fit 12 CDs in a box that is about as wide as 3 Jewel cases. In fact I would love big finish to sell the prevex boxes for previous releases. One box with one piece of artwork could contain the first two series of Dalek Empire.
Perhaps they hey should offer a prevex box with a bundle. For example series 1 of blakes 7 is 7 Jewel cases or one box. Saves them money and in some instances postage.
What do you all think?
and if anyone knows of any supplier in the uk selling prevex boxes, could they let me know please? Thanks.
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Post by mbt66 on Mar 12, 2016 17:13:41 GMT
Although the prevex boxes work well for the audiobooks I wouldn't want them for boxsets. If for no other reason than it would be the end of the booklets. Plus I do like having a cover for each story.
However I do have issues with some of the Big Finish boxsets, notably the Fourth and Fifth Doctor boxsets when they split stories into separate cases rather than putting them together in one case, just to make the box set bigger and, one assumes, look like you are getting more for your money.
In the end of the day it depends how Big Finish plan to market a release.
For example if BFP were to re-release the original Eighth Doctor and Charley stories as series collections they could.. Do it as a budget price set with the eight original discs in a prevex box and therefore charge (say) £30 for it. Do it as a special collectors edition box set with new artwork and bonus discs. For something like that I would expect the usual boxset treatment with separate cases for each story and a higher price tag.
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Post by captainpugwash on Mar 13, 2016 0:05:30 GMT
You see it really wouldn't bother me too much about the art work. You only get one real piece of art work for Survivors , blakes 7 liberater chronicles, counter measures etc for example on the outer sleeve.
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Post by redsharkJason on Mar 18, 2016 1:46:27 GMT
Stacked DVD and CD sets are never my first choice. To me, they're only justified for budget releases and for sets that contain more than 5 discs. Individual artwork covers for each complete story is always most appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 3:30:15 GMT
At least they seem to have cut that nonsense where a 5 disc set like The First Doctor Boxset had five separate boxes. It's not like there was a plethora of fresh, exciting art to display either - it was all minimalist. So much room taken up unnecessarily.
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Post by redsharkJason on Mar 18, 2016 4:58:27 GMT
I'm not as opposed to individual cases for stories within box sets as some Big Finish consumers have mentioned. If I really wanted to save money and space, I would buy the download. The Third Doctor and Terrahawks 5CD jewel cases with their CD booklets and individual CD tray compartments do provide a practical space saving solution. Better than cheaply stacking the discs directly on top of each other.
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 18, 2016 9:08:21 GMT
Not the biggest fan of stacked CDs either. It's a bit annoying when you have to lift each and every CD to get to the one you want.
For one box I prefer the type where each CD is in its on like compartment that you have to flip through to get.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 20, 2016 22:55:44 GMT
I still feel that the nicest looking product BF has ever released was the booklet style CD case that housed the Big Finish Classics adaptation of Frankenstein a couple of years ago. Small, simple and with amble room for production notes and photos.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 17:48:35 GMT
Yeah, I liked that book-style cover for the Frankenstein CD's too; very luxurious and neat looking on the shelf... if only BF had started their 'Classics' range of CDs with that type of cover, all of the CDs would look really cool on a book shelf.
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Post by missdaria on Dec 29, 2016 13:29:20 GMT
Has anyone a picture of one of these so that I can be sure I'm thinking of the right thing?
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Post by muckypup on Dec 29, 2016 15:04:47 GMT
now a download only buyer as I am over whelmed with cds....audiobooks, music & BF I must have well over 4000 cases of various sizes....now all boxed & stored away and never see the light of day.
but I have found nothing that is more convenient to store or display than standard CD cases......I still think BF should use 2 of their main range flip cases with a reversible covers for their box sets. Use the spare space on the CD to put the extras and do away with the "bonus" disk. anything extra should really be a download exclusive. thank goodness they seemed have ditched the "special" "deluxe" & "premium" packaging which is really a by world to grab an extra few quid from the downloaders without giving them anything extra!
but I am not a fan of the stacked cd cases, you end up with cd's balanced in the lid you have listened too, which then end up on the floor as you try to remove the last cd.... although I did have one with a split spindle with one half on the lid to put the cd's on.
but in all seriousness the only real way forward is downloads, in 20 years I can't help but see tons of cd's no one uses anymore just like the tons of VHS tapes now in land fill. as much as I love having something to hold and I know they feel important to us, it all feels like our children's waste problem for the future.
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Post by fingersmash on Dec 29, 2016 15:08:34 GMT
It depends on the range and the price point they're going for. If it's Terrahawks or Dorian, the jewel cases are just fine. If it's the Companion Chronicles or the Eighth Doctor, real boxes. That's my 2 cents.
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Post by literatedead on Dec 29, 2016 17:04:54 GMT
I don't have a ton of physical CDs from BF, but the only box set I have is the one for the first two series of Dorian Gray, and I believe that one is what you're refering to by 'prevex' (I couldn't find the name via searching, admittedly). It's a whopping ten discs long (five for the series, three for the specials, one for the Bernice Summerfield 'pilot' episode, and one for music) and in a spindle-like casing. I admit, it seems sturdier than the traditional jewel case; I had The Picture of Dorian Gray shipped with it, and while the casing on that one had been broken in several places, Confessions held fine.
The only issue I could see was an aesthetic one. It reminded me of the cases they used to use for CDs at our library years ago, kind of blocky and not as pleasing to the eye as jewel cases.
Since recent box sets seem to be moving towards single-cover setups (at least as the single-image-file MP3 releases have shown), I'd be on board for something like 'prevex', as it's a sturdier material for shipping. It might even encourage someone like me to buy more sets, knowing they had a better chance to survive the overseas trip. But I feel like the look would turn some customers off.
(That said, I do miss individual cover art; but I also get cutting that from the budget for series like Counter Measures, which may not have as much of an audience)
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Dec 30, 2016 16:44:11 GMT
As I have said elsewhere, I live alone, am out most of the day, prefer physical to downloads and am no longer allowed to have personal items delivered at work so prefer items which fit through the letterbox and I doubt if the 4 (or 5) individual cd cases would fit. As a result of my concerns I am behind on my orders by 15 (+ 2 more in January) releases. So I prefer the other options - whether with the spindle or the double-sized cd cases used in companion chronicles, third doctor adventures, etc.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 30, 2016 19:00:02 GMT
Use the spare space on the CD to put the extras and do away with the "bonus" disk. anything extra should really be a download exclusive. thank goodness they seemed have ditched the "special" "deluxe" & "premium" packaging which is really a by world to grab an extra few quid from the downloaders without giving them anything extra! I am the opposite of this, extra's should only be available to cd buyers. For when BF goes to download only, I'm out, just like I'm out on the sst's now. Though if someone wants to burn them on cd for me, I do tip very well...(and if they wanted to go that extra mile and make a nice case design in jewel cases, i'll pay thru the nose for them, just sayin.) Ive picked up several cd's of various musicians that were never released on cd, that look just like the album covers on cd, they cost more, sometimes triple, but they are well produced one at a time, and I pay for hard work, on that note, BF has done decided they don't want my money for their sst's, so I have to spend it elsewhere.
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Post by muckypup on Dec 30, 2016 19:30:04 GMT
Use the spare space on the CD to put the extras and do away with the "bonus" disk. anything extra should really be a download exclusive. thank goodness they seemed have ditched the "special" "deluxe" & "premium" packaging which is really a by world to grab an extra few quid from the downloaders without giving them anything extra! I am the opposite of this, extra's should only be available to cd buyers. For when BF goes to download only, I'm out, just like I'm out on the sst's now. Though if someone wants to burn them on cd for me, I do tip very well...(and if they wanted to go that extra mile and make a nice case design in jewel cases, i'll pay thru the nose for them, just sayin.) Ive picked up several cd's of various musicians that were never released on cd, that look just like the album covers on cd, they cost more, sometimes triple, but they are well produced one at a time, and I pay for hard work, on that note, BF has done decided they don't want my money for their sst's, so I have to spend it elsewhere. We are all entitled to our thoughts and for a long time my views were similar, but I am curious just why do you feel you need a piece of plastic to deter you from buying a range. the new app makes listening a breeze and the quality is about as good as it needs to be for most people. i am afraid that downloads are only going to get bigger, sometimes it's better to roll with it than fight it.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 30, 2016 21:19:18 GMT
I am the opposite of this, extra's should only be available to cd buyers. For when BF goes to download only, I'm out, just like I'm out on the sst's now. Though if someone wants to burn them on cd for me, I do tip very well...(and if they wanted to go that extra mile and make a nice case design in jewel cases, i'll pay thru the nose for them, just sayin.) Ive picked up several cd's of various musicians that were never released on cd, that look just like the album covers on cd, they cost more, sometimes triple, but they are well produced one at a time, and I pay for hard work, on that note, BF has done decided they don't want my money for their sst's, so I have to spend it elsewhere. We are all entitled to our thoughts and for a long time my views were similar, but I am curious just why do you feel you need a piece of plastic to deter you from buying a range. the new app makes listening a breeze and the quality is about as good as it needs to be for most people. i am afraid that downloads are only going to get bigger, sometimes it's better to roll with it than fight it. I'm a collector, how much is your download worth? how much can you get if you resale it? Some of the cd's I own are fetching a fairly nice price on ebay and amazon. Much like comic books, I prefer the hands on, not the downloads. Plus, when I drive my rig, I set up what I'm going to listen to, I have them in a neat order so I don't even have to look at the cover, just eject, put up open up and pop in...easy as lighting a cigarette, and no where near as distracting as even changing the channel on the radio...downloads, you have to read and choose, and I don't even talk on the phone while driving, and hope everyone that texts and drives only ends up killing themselves and no one else when they finally wreck, but that's another conversation, and my biggest pet peeve.
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Post by muckypup on Dec 30, 2016 22:32:03 GMT
We are all entitled to our thoughts and for a long time my views were similar, but I am curious just why do you feel you need a piece of plastic to deter you from buying a range. the new app makes listening a breeze and the quality is about as good as it needs to be for most people. i am afraid that downloads are only going to get bigger, sometimes it's better to roll with it than fight it. I'm a collector, how much is your download worth? how much can you get if you resale it? Some of the cd's I own are fetching a fairly nice price on ebay and amazon. Much like comic books, I prefer the hands on, not the downloads. Plus, when I drive my rig, I set up what I'm going to listen to, I have them in a neat order so I don't even have to look at the cover, just eject, put up open up and pop in...easy as lighting a cigarette, and no where near as distracting as even changing the channel on the radio...downloads, you have to read and choose, and I don't even talk on the phone while driving, and hope everyone that texts and drives only ends up killing themselves and no one else when they finally wreck, but that's another conversation, and my biggest pet peeve. yep i understand that collecting is part of it....but i realised that my enjoyment comes from the audio and not the CD's but as you say the collecting bug does get you. but downloads are wayless distracting than changing a CD. like you do with the cd's, you just create a playlist before you go (a few seconds work) and let it do the work. no need to ever touch your phone, but i just stick em on a sd card and let my system do the rest...it remembers where i left off etc and all from a deck that cost less than £40. but each to their own buddy and good on you for not using your phone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 23:12:19 GMT
I'm a collector, how much is your download worth? how much can you get if you resale it? Some of the cd's I own are fetching a fairly nice price on ebay and amazon. Much like comic books, I prefer the hands on, not the downloads. Plus, when I drive my rig, I set up what I'm going to listen to, I have them in a neat order so I don't even have to look at the cover, just eject, put up open up and pop in...easy as lighting a cigarette, and no where near as distracting as even changing the channel on the radio...downloads, you have to read and choose, and I don't even talk on the phone while driving, and hope everyone that texts and drives only ends up killing themselves and no one else when they finally wreck, but that's another conversation, and my biggest pet peeve. yep i understand that collecting is part of it....but i realised that my enjoyment comes from the audio and not the CD's but as you say the collecting bug does get you. but downloads are wayless distracting than changing a CD. like you do with the cd's, you just create a playlist before you go (a few seconds work) and let it do the work. no need to ever touch your phone, but i just stick em on a sd card and let my system do the rest...it remembers where i left off etc and all from a deck that cost less than £40. but each to their own buddy and good on you for not using your phone. I'm with the pup here. The download might not be worth money as a resalable object...but that's not why I'm buying Big Finish. I can't resell the experience of going to the cinema or a concert either but I love doing both - and that's what a new BF story is, an experience. "The plays the thing", indeed. If BF stopped making CDs but still made stories, does that devalue the story even slightly? Is it going to be less impactful or hit you less hard? I would say Ulysses makes it seems like downloads take longer to set up...it's not even remotely the case for me. I can build and edit a playlist for anyone of numerous devices of hundreds of stories and they're ready to go without once changing a disc so the DL is certainly faster and more convenient for me in terms of listening. I can use the search icon and find anyone of thousands of audios in the time it takes to sneeze.
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