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Post by aztec on Jan 31, 2017 10:50:40 GMT
Seems an appropriate time to bump this thread.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 31, 2017 11:06:46 GMT
I believe Chris Chibnall's era will introduce the first female Doctor. The question is: would Pearl Mackie stay on as Bill or would they replace her with a male companion who isn't Nardole?
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 31, 2017 14:24:53 GMT
I doubt it, given the circumstances and, as discussed on other threads, how eeriely accurate the Mirror rumours are proving to be. The BBC want to go back to the well, so we will likely go young again, though a black or ethnic Doctor is not entirely impossible.
A female one? No. The BBC most likely wants Chibnail to have a clean, but also controversy-free, start.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 31, 2017 14:30:59 GMT
Also, seems as good a place to restate what started the thread, especially given all the new context we've gotten since.
''He'll be the first showrunner not affiliated with the Wilderness years' output in any way, as well as the first to not have much in the way of family friendly TV experience outside of Who unlike his predecessors.
The only things close to guesses I could hazard are: - Chibnall says he wants a writer's room, ala US TV Drama, so the uniformity and consistency of episodes will be up, for better or worse, as the staff will have more active discussions with each other. - Chibnall's background in crime drama could mean that when Capaldi vacates, 13 could be a more investigative, almost detective/reporter-esque Doctor, which would be an interesting contrast to the war horses and chique geeks the other New Doctors have been. - Chibnall will inherit a show with possibly its biggest ever audience globally, yet be stuck with an ever tighter budget so that may have a bearing on the direction he'll take the show creatively. - Chibnall will be a major source of memes as now people will make fun of him being the most blatantly nerdy kid on that 80s BBC talk show who criticized Ultimate Foe, and he's basically going to be in JNT's shoes.
Agree, disagree or add more?''
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 31, 2017 14:31:44 GMT
I doubt it, given the circumstances and, as discussed on other threads, how eeriely accurate the Mirror rumours are proving to be. The BBC want to go back to the well, so we will likely go young again, though a black or ethnic Doctor is not entirely impossible. A female one? No. The BBC most likely wants Chibnail to have a clean, but also controversy-free, start. Latest rumours suggest a young, female Doctor from Broadchurch who will be on a year contract in case it doesn't work out.
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Post by sherlock on Jan 31, 2017 17:27:06 GMT
I doubt it, given the circumstances and, as discussed on other threads, how eeriely accurate the Mirror rumours are proving to be. The BBC want to go back to the well, so we will likely go young again, though a black or ethnic Doctor is not entirely impossible. A female one? No. The BBC most likely wants Chibnail to have a clean, but also controversy-free, start. Latest rumours suggest a young, female Doctor from Broadchurch who will be on a year contract in case it doesn't work out. Given we've only known Capaldi will need a successor for a day I'd recommend taking that with a pinch of salt.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 31, 2017 18:23:42 GMT
Latest rumours suggest a young, female Doctor from Broadchurch who will be on a year contract in case it doesn't work out. Given we've only known Capaldi will need a successor for a day I'd recommend taking that with a pinch of salt. It seems feasible to me.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 1, 2017 17:52:15 GMT
Alright, for the sake of argument, let's say they go female this time. Regardless if I do or don't agree, let's get to some brass tacks here as to what could be expected:
1) Given a big to-do over Capaldi was age and not moving toys, we're likely skewing for a younger actress in Tenant's age range. If you were hoping for Olivia or Helen or Imelda, it likely won't be that this time.
2) Decently built from a physical standpoint. Won't be someone petit like Jenna, or more robust like Ingrid. It'll probably be someone more like Martha: not a model, but someone you'd buy in an action scene.
3) Probably a white actress. Naturally, if they go female, all bets are off, but I have a gut feeling if the Beeb go female, they'll at least keep the same race as the past Doctors for some kind of safety, for lack of a better term.
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Post by xlozdob on Feb 1, 2017 18:17:23 GMT
Alright, for the sake of argument, let's say they go female this time. Regardless if I do or don't agree, let's get to some brass tacks here as to what could be expected: 1) Given a big to-do over Capaldi was age and not moving toys, we're likely skewing for a younger actress in Tenant's age range. If you were hoping for Olivia or Helen or Imelda, it likely won't be that this time. 2) Decently built from a physical standpoint. Won't be someone petit like Jenna, or more robust like Ingrid. It'll probably be someone more like Martha: not a model, but someone you'd buy in an action scene. 3) Probably a white actress. Naturally, if they go female, all bets are off, but I have a gut feeling if the Beeb go female, they'll at least keep the same race as the past Doctors for some kind of safety, for lack of a better term. Some have suggested Phoebe Waller-Bridge, and tbh I wouldn't have a problem with that. She's a phenomenal actress (watch Fleabag; while her role isn't very Doctor-like, it shows she has the skills to play the part) and she seems to be free to take on the role. Plus, she appeared on Broadchurch S2, so she has history with Chibbers.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 2, 2017 0:12:30 GMT
Alright, for the sake of argument, let's say they go female this time. Regardless if I do or don't agree, let's get to some brass tacks here as to what could be expected: 1) Given a big to-do over Capaldi was age and not moving toys, we're likely skewing for a younger actress in Tenant's age range. If you were hoping for Olivia or Helen or Imelda, it likely won't be that this time. 2) Decently built from a physical standpoint. Won't be someone petit like Jenna, or more robust like Ingrid. It'll probably be someone more like Martha: not a model, but someone you'd buy in an action scene. 3) Probably a white actress. Naturally, if they go female, all bets are off, but I have a gut feeling if the Beeb go female, they'll at least keep the same race as the past Doctors for some kind of safety, for lack of a better term. Some have suggested Phoebe Waller-Bridge, and tbh I wouldn't have a problem with that. She's a phenomenal actress (watch Fleabag; while her role isn't very Doctor-like, it shows she has the skills to play the part) and she seems to be free to take on the role. Plus, she appeared on Broadchurch S2, so she has history with Chibbers. Fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 6:23:28 GMT
My guess? Either through complications through his regeneration or other means, The Doctor will lose all memory of his previous existence and will have fresh eyes upon the universe. It'll be intresting to see the revival audience experience The Doctor as he was pre-Time War. Galifery and the Time War have been quite a backdrop for the revival for quite sometime and it wouldn't surprise me if Chibnall makes this move.
Yes, I know, the extended universe, but most of the revival's viewership haven't experienced that scenario with The Doctor
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 8:27:34 GMT
My guess? Either through complications through his regeneration or other means, The Doctor will lose all memory of his previous existence and will have fresh eyes upon the universe. It'll be intresting to see the revival audience experience The Doctor as he was pre-Time War. Galifery and the Time War have been quite a backdrop for the revival for quite sometime and it wouldn't surprise me if Chibnall makes this move. Yes, I know, the extended universe, but most of the revival's viewership haven't experienced that scenario with The Doctor My only hope is that they do something with it. It was the right time to move forward from that illustrious backdrop of a battle-scarred Doctor, but please can we have another myth arc to take its place? There's so much that can be done with a revived Gallifrey, particularly in the context of a crippled, post-War Time Lord society. I doubt everything is the same as it was, I doubt everything is the same as it was. The reconstruction would be an excellent place to draw new stories from like Gallifreyan war fleets illegally cauterising and colonising time zones, exterior, opportunistic forces attempting to usurp their hold over time, teething problems with a new Web of Time that has accidentally overrode the main timeline with an alternate one and made that the default, the Daleks' attitude towards a returned Gallifrey and their plans there, etc. There's been not much worldbuilding in the Moffat era (and some pretty questionable worldbuilding when it has happened), it'd be nice to get back to exploring the universe as a connected tapestry again.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 2, 2017 10:11:24 GMT
My guess? Either through complications through his regeneration or other means, The Doctor will lose all memory of his previous existence and will have fresh eyes upon the universe. It'll be intresting to see the revival audience experience The Doctor as he was pre-Time War. Galifery and the Time War have been quite a backdrop for the revival for quite sometime and it wouldn't surprise me if Chibnall makes this move. Yes, I know, the extended universe, but most of the revival's viewership haven't experienced that scenario with The Doctor NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I loath Mind Wipes and resets for the Doctor.
Lazy writing in the extreme.
Regards
mark687
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Post by aztec on Feb 2, 2017 10:55:24 GMT
My guess? Either through complications through his regeneration or other means, The Doctor will lose all memory of his previous existence and will have fresh eyes upon the universe. It'll be intresting to see the revival audience experience The Doctor as he was pre-Time War. Galifery and the Time War have been quite a backdrop for the revival for quite sometime and it wouldn't surprise me if Chibnall makes this move. Yes, I know, the extended universe, but most of the revival's viewership haven't experienced that scenario with The Doctor NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I loath Mind Wipes for the Doctor. You must hate the 8th Doctor stories then
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 2, 2017 11:03:02 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I loath Mind Wipes for the Doctor. You must hate the 8th Doctor stories then They get boring after a while Cheers Tony
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Post by mark687 on Feb 2, 2017 11:04:34 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I loath Mind Wipes for the Doctor. You must hate the 8th Doctor stories then I hate how long that part dragged on for and:
He Never gets them back properly
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Post by aztec on Feb 2, 2017 11:10:46 GMT
You must hate the 8th Doctor stories then I hate how long that part dragged on for and:
He Never gets them back properly
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Are you talking about the BBC EDA's? (I'm still reading Adventuress) I thought the amnesia thing was an interesting plot point to start off with, but they didn't do what they could have done with it {Spoiler} The Doctor had lost his memories but still seemed to know he was an alien from outer space at heart, and when he got back the Tardis he had an in built intuition for how it worked...eseentially we ended up having the same character as before just a little more ruthless and gaps in his memory. If it was me I would have swapped the dynamics around a bit and made Fitz the reluctant leader in the group, there was a lot of drama in having the Doctor so out of place and having to learn who he was again, but so far they haven't really explored that, the amnesia has just wiped continuity rather than the Doctor's skills...
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Post by mark687 on Feb 2, 2017 11:20:41 GMT
I hate how long that part dragged on for and:
He Never gets them back properly
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mark687
Are you talking about the BBC EDA's? (I'm still reading Adventuress) I thought the amnesia thing was an interesting plot point to start off with, but they didn't do what they could have done with it {Spoiler} The Doctor had lost his memories but still seemed to know he was an alien from outer space at heart, and when he got back the Tardis he had an in built intuition for how it worked...eseentially we ended up having the same character as before just a little more ruthless and gaps in his memory. If it was me I would have swapped the dynamics around a bit and made Fitz the reluctant leader in the group, there was a lot of drama in having the Doctor so out of place and having to learn who he was again, but so far they haven't really explored that, the amnesia has just wiped continuity rather than the Doctor's skills... Exactly
You Don't wipe out continuity, you can alter it slightly but IMO you must reconcile it with what's come before at some point
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mark687
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Post by aztec on Feb 2, 2017 11:24:35 GMT
Are you talking about the BBC EDA's? (I'm still reading Adventuress) I thought the amnesia thing was an interesting plot point to start off with, but they didn't do what they could have done with it {Spoiler} The Doctor had lost his memories but still seemed to know he was an alien from outer space at heart, and when he got back the Tardis he had an in built intuition for how it worked...eseentially we ended up having the same character as before just a little more ruthless and gaps in his memory. If it was me I would have swapped the dynamics around a bit and made Fitz the reluctant leader in the group, there was a lot of drama in having the Doctor so out of place and having to learn who he was again, but so far they haven't really explored that, the amnesia has just wiped continuity rather than the Doctor's skills... Exactly
You Don't wipe out continuity, you can alter it slightly but IMO you must reconcile it with what's come before at some point
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mark687 Well the EDA's have certainly felt like their own distinct era of Who anyway, they largely avoided the continuity from the TV series and Virgin... I'm slightly dissapointed they didn't do The Eight Doctors Part 2 in which he has to travel back and get his memories back again
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 11:55:20 GMT
My guess? Either through complications through his regeneration or other means, The Doctor will lose all memory of his previous existence and will have fresh eyes upon the universe. It'll be intresting to see the revival audience experience The Doctor as he was pre-Time War. Galifery and the Time War have been quite a backdrop for the revival for quite sometime and it wouldn't surprise me if Chibnall makes this move. Yes, I know, the extended universe, but most of the revival's viewership haven't experienced that scenario with The Doctor My only hope is that they do something with it. It was the right time to move forward from that illustrious backdrop of a battle-scarred Doctor, but please can we have another myth arc to take its place? There's so much that can be done with a revived Gallifrey, particularly in the context of a crippled, post-War Time Lord society. I doubt everything is the same as it was, I doubt everything is the same as it was. The reconstruction would be an excellent place to draw new stories from like Gallifreyan war fleets illegally cauterising and colonising time zones, exterior, opportunistic forces attempting to usurp their hold over time, teething problems with a new Web of Time that has accidentally overrode the main timeline with an alternate one and made that the default, the Daleks' attitude towards a returned Gallifrey and their plans there, etc. There's been not much worldbuilding in the Moffat era (and some pretty questionable worldbuilding when it has happened), it'd be nice to get back to exploring the universe as a connected tapestry again. Oh no, if something like this happened then I'd like them to use it as an opportunity to send the show back to basics. Just have the Doctor bumbling from one place to another. Doctor Who has never really been about world building, every story overturns what has gone before when it needs to. What you're describing sounds more like Babylon 5 with TARDISes. I just want the Doctor to not know where he is or what's going on. He just gets into sticky situations and wants to help.
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