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Post by mark687 on Jun 26, 2022 19:39:02 GMT
Dead Plates doesn’t feature Torchwood itself, and being a Bilis story is kinda ambiguous as to where it occurs relative to his other stories cos Bilis doesn’t really have a timeline (as he just hops from time period to time period at a whim). Its set in 1978 though, so if you wanted a specific placement that’s where it goes. Agreed with the last scene being ether UK Election Night May 3 1979 or the night after. Regards mark687
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Post by Ricky on Jul 21, 2022 10:50:07 GMT
Restricted Items Archive seems to be set somewhere in series 1. Owen is mentioned to be able to feel things, which means he's alive, and Ianto also mentions the team going out on missions without him.
Ignore that! Ianto mentions that he's been working at Torchwood Three for two years, which would place this in 2009? But Tosh and Owen are definitely still alive at the time of the story, sooooo...
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Post by sherlock on Jul 21, 2022 20:19:55 GMT
Restricted Items Archive seems to be set somewhere in series 1. Owen is mentioned to be able to feel things, which means he's alive, and Ianto also mentions the team going out on missions without him. Ignore that! Ianto mentions that he's been working at Torchwood Three for two years, which would place this in 2009? But Tosh and Owen are definitely still alive at the time of the story, sooooo... Ah another Torchwood audio makes the fatal error of including a reference to a specific number of years. I’m going to assume it’s more a year and half and Ianto’s just exaggerating out of annoyance.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jul 21, 2022 22:30:42 GMT
I haven’t heard the story but someone put notes for it on the TARDIS wiki and they are as follows {Spoiler} Ianto references Gwen and Owen's trips to the stationary cupboard, referencing their affair. The team doesn't take him on missions or nights out, probably due to the events of Cyberwoman, but he no longer seems bitter or upset over it. According the Divination Thermometer, both Owen and Tosh have roughly one year left to live.
This strongly implies a setting during mid to late Series 1 to me. Is it definitely Torchwood Three that he’s been working for for two years and not Torchwood in general? We know he joins Torchwood One in 2004/2005 so it would fit better with the two years line if this is set in 2007 and it’s been two years since Yvonne Hartman recruited him, rather than two years since the fall of Canary Wharf.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 22, 2022 6:14:21 GMT
I haven’t heard the story but someone put notes for it on the TARDIS wiki and they are as follows {Spoiler} Ianto references Gwen and Owen's trips to the stationary cupboard, referencing their affair. The team doesn't take him on missions or nights out, probably due to the events of Cyberwoman, but he no longer seems bitter or upset over it. According the Divination Thermometer, both Owen and Tosh have roughly one year left to live.
This strongly implies a setting during mid to late Series 1 to me. Is it definitely Torchwood Three that he’s been working for for two years and not Torchwood in general? We know he joins Torchwood One in 2004/2005 so it would fit better with the two years line if this is set in 2007 and it’s been two years since Yvonne Hartman recruited him, rather than two years since the fall of Canary Wharf. Ianto specifically says he’s been doing this job of archiving stuff in Torchwood 3’s restricted items for two years (it’s him venting about the team not appreciating what he’s doing). So can’t include Torchwood 1.
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Post by Ricky on Jul 22, 2022 7:45:45 GMT
I guess this is just another one where we'll have to ignore the reference to time passing.
It's strange how they got it so right setting Dinner and a Show during the time Jack was away for Valentine's Day, but get it so wrong here.
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Post by Ricky on Aug 25, 2022 9:37:55 GMT
Suckers is set pre-series 1 in 2004. Toshiko mentions working with Captain Jack and Suzie, and describes herself as the 'new girl'.
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Post by Ricky on Oct 18, 2022 19:54:50 GMT
SUV, I'm not totally sure. Gwen is referenced as being new to the team, but Ianto mentions the previous year's secret Santa. Since Ianto joined the team in 2007, I guess maybe this is set after Out of Time?
By that point, Gwen will only have been with the team for a couple of months, so I think it still works.
I'll have to give it a second listen and focus more to try and catch more references.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 19, 2022 0:57:08 GMT
SUV, I'm not totally sure. Gwen is referenced as being new to the team, but Ianto mentions the previous year's secret Santa. Since Ianto joined the team in 2007, I guess maybe this is set after Out of Time? By that point, Gwen will only have been with the team for a couple of months, so I think it still works. I'll have to give it a second listen and focus more to try and catch more references. I heard that Tosh and Ianto don’t really get on with each other in it, which would suggest to me that it’s before Dinner and a Show, having no context at all.
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Post by sherlock on Nov 27, 2022 18:21:53 GMT
There is nothing to place The Lincolnshire Poacher really. Ianto’s working with Torchwood Three and mentions Jack.
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Post by sherlock on Dec 26, 2022 23:15:44 GMT
Nothing specific to place The Empire Man other than Victorian era. It’s probably later in Victoria’s supernatural dealings given how she talks about having done so much.
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Post by sherlock on Jan 15, 2023 14:15:03 GMT
Double Part 1 begins in October 1973. Exactly how long the ensuing events take isn’t particularly clear, but probably still within 1973. {Spoiler} Not sure how the Nestenes having been lurking on Earth for years fits with the UNIT era invasions, but that’s just another problem for UNIT dating.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 17, 2023 10:40:32 GMT
The Last Love Song of Suzie Costello
Suzie mentions having worked with the Rift Manipulator for three years. I can’t think of anything that actually specifies what year Suzie started at Torchwood, so it doesn’t really help to date this. I guess maybe before her other two audios as Suzie is quite keen to prove herself to Torchwood.
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Post by Whovitt on Feb 17, 2023 11:39:24 GMT
The Last Love Song of Suzie Costello Suzie mentions having worked with the Rift Manipulator for three years. I can’t think of anything that actually specifies what year Suzie started at Torchwood, so it doesn’t really help to date this. I guess maybe before her other two audios as Suzie is quite keen to prove herself to Torchwood. I can't remember the details from the other releases regarding Ianto's presence on the team, but there's a reference in this one by Anwir that good coffee wasn't something one gets in the workplace, and Suzie says something along the lines of "that's what you think". I took that as a suggestion that Ianto had arrived on the scene by this point. Like I say, I can't remember any specifics from the earlier Suzie releases, but does Ianto being around help with the placement for this story?
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Post by Ricky on Feb 17, 2023 11:54:26 GMT
I think having Ianto be part of the team at this point hurts the placement, as that would mean Suzie joined Torchwood in 2004, the same year as Tosh. But I get the feeling that she was part of the team for a while before Tosh joined up.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 24, 2023 13:27:58 GMT
Thirst Trap
Andy is a sergeant, Rhys mentions Anwen and Gwen seems to be running Torchwood, so definitely 2010s sometime pre-Herald of the Dawn.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 24, 2023 14:30:39 GMT
Nothing specific to place The Empire Man other than Victorian era. It’s probably later in Victoria’s supernatural dealings given how she talks about having done so much. If you wanted to relate it to actual historical PMs - which is likely a wild goose chase - the PM sounds rather young and the only young(ish) PM in Victoria's later years was Lord Rosebery (1894-5). The PM also sounds rather new to the job of PM and the other Victorian PMs of the 1880s and 1890s were Gladstone who was a newbie PM in 1868 and Lord Salisbury who was a newbie PM in 1885. So if you want to go by actual historical PMs, then the only realistic option is Rosebery in 1894.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Mar 24, 2023 23:37:03 GMT
Thirst Trap Andy is a sergeant, Rhys mentions Anwen and Gwen seems to be running Torchwood, so definitely 2010s sometime pre- Herald of the Dawn. Gwen and Rhys are mentioned to have two kids, so it’s between Aliens Among and Among Us. They really go out of their way not to mention where Torchwood is except one line where one of Andy’s co-workers mentions the woman in charge, which sounds like a description of Yvonne though could also be Gwen. It’s probably meant to be after Revolution of the Daleks as that’s where the second Cooper-Williams child originated from. And Andy is single so likely after Yvonne’s arrest.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 28, 2023 22:05:14 GMT
Thirst Trap Andy is a sergeant, Rhys mentions Anwen and Gwen seems to be running Torchwood, so definitely 2010s sometime pre- Herald of the Dawn. Gwen and Rhys are mentioned to have two kids, so it’s between Aliens Among and Among Us. They really go out of their way not to mention where Torchwood is except one line where one of Andy’s co-workers mentions the woman in charge, which sounds like a description of Yvonne though could also be Gwen. It’s probably meant to be after Revolution of the Daleks as that’s where the second Cooper-Williams child originated from. And Andy is single so likely after Yvonne’s arrest. Trouble is in context of story Yvonne doesn’t really work. {Spoiler} As it’s an implicit threat by the villain to expose Rhys’ usage of the dating app to Gwen, which doesn’t work at all if it’s Yvonne who wouldn’t care in slightest about it.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 22, 2023 15:23:52 GMT
Tyler’s appearance in The Witching Tree in Rani Takes on the World is circa 2023/24. Torchwood is definitely up and running in some form, as Tyler has back-up he can call on.
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