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Post by mark687 on May 3, 2019 10:24:52 GMT
The Orville
(Now that's how you do Sci-fi. So far my best TV Series for the year for 2nd year running)
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Post by mrperson on May 3, 2019 20:20:53 GMT
GoT E3
Once on the TV downstairs, then again a few days later on my computer. Looked a lot better on the computer. It was as if after-images remained behind anything that moved for a short time after anything moved on the TV, and no, nobody snuck LSD into my water that night. (Whereas most complaints I heard were simply about the combination of darkness and streaming compression).
Anyway, there is plenty to be said about the human tactics (ie, how pointless they are, such as why the Dothraki just charge off into the darkness without having a clue what they'd hit, like putting artillery where they did, like putting themselves on the wrong side of the trench they built so that it was effectively a trap for themselves when they had to retreat, and more).
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{Spoiler} the thing that bothered me the most was the fundamental absurdity of the trap and the fact that it worked. It makes no sense to me.
First, I don't recall hearing anything about a motivation to specifically destroy "the memory of human history", as mentioned as the reason why the NK might go for Bran in E2. That just sort of came out of nowhere. Before the impression I had was that he just wants to destroy all humans. After all, he was created to repel humans from the northern forests long ago but broke free of control (or wasn't controlled properly in the first place).
Second, even IF that is his motivation, there is no point to killing Bran in the middle of the battle to remove that 'memory' if other humans are alive who also remember history and who have scrolls documenting it. Look, this guy has schlepped around for thousands of years. He's patient. His would know he was certain to win the battle so long as he kept himself protected, given the numbers of wights we saw and however many others were out there, massed outside the castle, still coming on. Exposing himself so completely made possible the one and only thing that would lead to his army's defeat: getting stabbed in the wrong spot with the wrong weapon.
Had he kept himself encircled with WWs, and those by wights - all with those spears - he'd be nigh-on invincible. At most, you'd have Jon and Dany running away with their dragons at the end or something. But even that isn't necessary. He had no motive to start the battle at all. It was the living who needed to provoke battle because otherwise they'd use up all their food. What a commander with half a brain would do is encircle Winterfell and either starve them out (fighting even more weakly, being starving) or starve to death. What's waiting another few months to such a creature?
Instead, he does the one and only thing that could get him killed, and against all probability Arya shows up at exactly the right moment with exactly the right weapon to kill him, stabbing him in exactly right spot. As you may have been able to tell from some of my gripes over the years about TV Who, you can tell this is the kind of contradictory character behavior that tends to bother me.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 21:12:09 GMT
GoT E3
Once on the TV downstairs, then again a few days later on my computer. Looked a lot better on the computer. It was as if after-images remained behind anything that moved for a short time after anything moved on the TV, and no, nobody snuck LSD into my water that night. (Whereas most complaints I heard were simply about the combination of darkness and streaming compression).
Anyway, there is plenty to be said about the human tactics (ie, how pointless they are, such as why the Dothraki just charge off into the darkness without having a clue what they'd hit, like putting artillery where they did, like putting themselves on the wrong side of the trench they built so that it was effectively a trap for themselves when they had to retreat, and more).
But
{Spoiler} the thing that bothered me the most was the fundamental absurdity of the trap and the fact that it worked. It makes no sense to me.
First, I don't recall hearing anything about a motivation to specifically destroy "the memory of human history", as mentioned as the reason why the NK might go for Bran in E2. That just sort of came out of nowhere. Before the impression I had was that he just wants to destroy all humans. After all, he was created to repel humans from the northern forests long ago but broke free of control (or wasn't controlled properly in the first place).
Second, even IF that is his motivation, there is no point to killing Bran in the middle of the battle to remove that 'memory' if other humans are alive who also remember history and who have scrolls documenting it. Look, this guy has schlepped around for thousands of years. He's patient. His would know he was certain to win the battle so long as he kept himself protected, given the numbers of wights we saw and however many others were out there, massed outside the castle, still coming on. Exposing himself so completely made possible the one and only thing that would lead to his army's defeat: getting stabbed in the wrong spot with the wrong weapon.
Had he kept himself encircled with WWs, and those by wights - all with those spears - he'd be nigh-on invincible. At most, you'd have Jon and Dany running away with their dragons at the end or something. But even that isn't necessary. He had no motive to start the battle at all. It was the living who needed to provoke battle because otherwise they'd use up all their food. What a commander with half a brain would do is encircle Winterfell and either starve them out (fighting even more weakly, being starving) or starve to death. What's waiting another few months to such a creature?
Instead, he does the one and only thing that could get him killed, and against all probability Arya shows up at exactly the right moment with exactly the right weapon to kill him, stabbing him in exactly right spot. As you may have been able to tell from some of my gripes over the years about TV Who, you can tell this is the kind of contradictory character behavior that tends to bother me. You absolutely capture my issue with a lot of this episode. The Dothraki are treated as canon fodder because we need them off the board before the next act, characters act in ways completely inconsistent with the way we have seen them do because they need to get things from A-B in one episode. We'll need to give the next 3, the last 3, eps the benefit of the doubt but this ep gives me the massive fear they're rushing things and craming in what really should have much more room to breathe. On a rewatch I worry this is going to be a show that is seven seasons of measured, patient television slowly moving the pawns on the board then a terrible scramble to capture the King at the end. The pacing of this season 3 eps in has been horrendous. I think the story of the WWs and that war should certainly have taken longer to resolve. Doing so in one episode puts the WWs on par with Craster and Ramsay Bolton - an end of level boss. Not the endgame as we have been waiting nearly a decade to see play out.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 4, 2019 12:36:14 GMT
The Orville Season 2 Episode 9-14 A fantastic second half to the season. Just brilliant. Hope for a Season 3
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Post by christmastrenzalore on May 4, 2019 19:58:59 GMT
The Orville. All of it. I'm surprised by how much I loved this.
Never been much of a Star Trek fan. Always found it just a skosh too dry. The more down to Earth characters and silly humour goes a long way to pulling me in. But it still does really engaging character work, relationships, and moral-dilemma driven stories.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 5, 2019 10:26:50 GMT
Game of Thrones Season 8 Episodes 1-3 I think watching all three episodes back to back worked a lot better for me. It really flowed and seemed like one LONG episode. Although i do agree with the complaints about how some of Episode 3 was "Lit"
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Post by doctorkernow on May 5, 2019 22:27:06 GMT
Hello again.
Line of Duty: Gripping but... I called it! I managed to twig what was going on halfway through the series. Still enjoyed it and pleased there will be another series in a couple of years time.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 6, 2019 10:02:40 GMT
Line of Duty Season 5 Episode 6
Dead Pixels Season 1 Episode 6
Cant wait for the next series of each
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Post by mark687 on May 6, 2019 10:09:19 GMT
GOT Season 8 EP 4
(And so it slowly rolls on)
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mark687
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Post by muckypup on May 6, 2019 10:13:04 GMT
am I the only one who found line of duty a real chore to watch... why such hype...
my be its just one twist too many for my liking I will not be watching series 6
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Post by mark687 on May 6, 2019 10:17:31 GMT
am I the only one who found line of duty a real chore to watch... why such hype... my be its just one twist too many for my liking I will not be watching series 6 No I agree it jumped the shark in Series 3 and I haven't made it a point to watch on transmission since.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 8, 2019 11:09:33 GMT
Curfew Season 1 Episodes 3-8 Really enjoyed this. My fave didnt make it to the end, but if this comes back for a second season i'd love to see where it goes
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on May 8, 2019 12:24:05 GMT
The Blacklist Season 2
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 8, 2019 12:42:58 GMT
NCIS S16E22 .
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Post by mrperson on May 8, 2019 19:06:43 GMT
John Oliver. GoT E4 {Spoiler} More of similar gripes. The fleet doesn't bother scouting ahead, so they sail directly into an ambush. (Nevermind about how Euron knew exactly where they'd be going).
She should know very well by now that dragons are not these super-invincible creatures and are a lot more glass cannony than expected.
She should also anticipate that because the last time a ballista injured a dragon, a lot more would be built. Nonetheless, she flies directly at the ship, gets another dragon killed, and ends up staying within range for quite some time. She's terrible at dragons and now she only has one, which can't be used to much effect against a bunch of ballistae.
Meanwhile the fleet doesn't try changing course (though it was generally late) or anything...they just get obliterated (I don't think ballistae are _that_ powerful but OK).
And somehow a bunch of people make it to shore in full armor. That is not how swimming works.
And then more silliness. Tyrion thinks he can just walk up to the gate and talk Cersei out of things.
It is also completely inconsistent with Cersei's character to note send her army/calvary out right then to wipe out the delegation, which consisted of a number of leaders. It's not like she cares about a fair fight.
Basically, a bunch of things happened because the show had to get to a certain point, not because they made any kind of logical sense or even sense for a character.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 19:52:12 GMT
John Oliver. GoT E4 {Spoiler} More of similar gripes. The fleet doesn't bother scouting ahead, so they sail directly into an ambush. (Nevermind about how Euron knew exactly where they'd be going).
She should know very well by now that dragons are not these super-invincible creatures and are a lot more glass cannony than expected.
She should also anticipate that because the last time a ballista injured a dragon, a lot more would be built. Nonetheless, she flies directly at the ship, gets another dragon killed, and ends up staying within range for quite some time. She's terrible at dragons and now she only has one, which can't be used to much effect against a bunch of ballistae.
Meanwhile the fleet doesn't try changing course (though it was generally late) or anything...they just get obliterated (I don't think ballistae are _that_ powerful but OK).
And somehow a bunch of people make it to shore in full armor. That is not how swimming works.
And then more silliness. Tyrion thinks he can just walk up to the gate and talk Cersei out of things.
It is also completely inconsistent with Cersei's character to note send her army/calvary out right then to wipe out the delegation, which consisted of a number of leaders. It's not like she cares about a fair fight.
Basically, a bunch of things happened because the show had to get to a certain point, not because they made any kind of logical sense or even sense for a character. Same gripes with GoT for me. {Spoiler} I feel like that's all I've done with this season but it's been so bad, with a total shift in character development and pace. If THIS was GoT from 2010 it would never have taken off. Hate to say it but it seems clear to me since they're gone beyond the books, they're clueless with where to go a lot of the time. GRRM used to help out more on the show but he's been stand off since S6 and it really, really shows.
Euron manages to kill a dragon while it's in flight and he's at sea with zero problems - he became all powerful because, as you said, the plot needed it regardless of whether it matches with what we have been shown of how difficult it is to kill a dragon before.
I'll need to see more of the Winterfell fallout, I wasn't happy with Brienne turning into an emotional wreck over a man just after losing her virginity. It's not in character for her one bit. She always soldiers on and doesn't let them see her bleed. Having her and Arya both have the same story in consecutive weeks was baffling too - reads like bad fan-fic to say "Who hasn't had sex yet? We better do that then"
They also seem to have teleported King's Landing - we've seen it for years but now with 2 eps left it looks completely different with this sandy entrance when we know it's surrounded by water (blackwater) or forests (where Robert was killed hunting) - again...the writers are ignoring their own show's past totally. The Bron scene didn't work well either. He got the jump on a lot of people to get the jump on a knight and The Queen's Hand - remind me not to use Winterfell security! It was played well though. Jerome Flynn has come a long way!
I don't think Varys and Tyrion would be so quick to turn on Dany either, and if they would...plotting out loud in the throne room at dragonstone shows a stupidity they've never had.
It's just a narratively poor run. 2 eps to go and I don't trust Benioff and Weiss to deliver now.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 10, 2019 2:47:31 GMT
What We Do in the Shadows episodes 3 through 7. This show is on fire. The latest episode....well, that was a thing.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 10, 2019 10:31:26 GMT
Sliders Season 5 Episode 18 Well that was a very Meta episode to end it on and annoying that it was a deliberate cliffhanger. Felt like it was the first half of a 2 parter that should have gone before the previous episode, which my mum thought was the last episode
Back to Life Episodes 4-6 Really enjoyed this. Great Dark Comedy. There are enough threads for it to have a second series
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 10, 2019 12:53:52 GMT
Big Bang Theory- 2nd to last ever episode.. Really tied up a lot of loose ends ready for next weeks finale...
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 21:02:04 GMT
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. I went into it expecting something like Buffy or Angel and instead I got something akin to Sandman. It's genuinely quite macabre with a few classic horror in-jokes (the town's medico is called Dr Phibes) thrown in for good measure. I cannot recommend it enough, particularly for Michelle Gomez's role as devil's advocate (literally). It's got me rather interested in writing a Missy story at some point.
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