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Post by eric009 on Dec 24, 2016 16:38:51 GMT
what if mondas destory the earth would it have cause a time paradox and would a great unbound story i leave the reason why as spoiler {Spoiler}
earthstock would not have happen and humans have never been on earth at that point in time |
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 25, 2016 1:12:59 GMT
Hmmm...Makes sense, till you get all timey whimey...but think about this, Adric is not from the universe depicted in Earthshock. And if you believe in the infinite universe possibility, then that really complicates things. The bigger paradox might be what if the doctor never went to e-space. No Adric, no Castrovalva. etc. etc. etc.
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Post by eric009 on Dec 25, 2016 4:44:20 GMT
but with no human around dr would never been on earth in 1963  |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 25, 2016 6:02:10 GMT
but with no human around dr would never been on earth in 1963 He might have, just popping in to hang around with the Silurians. |
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Post by constonks on Dec 25, 2016 6:53:01 GMT
Earthshock might not have happened but something else might have taken the ship's place. Time is a tricky business.
I'd wager if the Doc, Ben and Polly had survived in the TARDIS, they'd just continue travelling in a universe where Earth was destroyed in 1986. Which erases a couple of the Doc's companions - and Susan! - from existence, but is not a major paradox for Ben and Polly. Heck, they might have still met Jamie.
The question is how would the rest of time play out?
With the Cybermen taking the place of humans post-1980s, they may have successfully established an empire. As they eventually got time travel in the Primeline, I think it's safe to say they'd become a Temporal Power. Maybe even a big enough threat to the galaxy to warrant Time Lord intervention.
Although maybe the Time Lords would step in so much that they would turn the clock back and save Earth.
Maybe they already have.
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Post by omega on Dec 25, 2016 7:15:49 GMT
What is Earth without its stories? It needs the countless narratives to keep things interesting! #TitleSpellingErrorPedant
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 25, 2016 9:12:48 GMT
I believe it was 7 who started saying that time would repair itself, when a major fault happened. Though, there would be repercussions, there is no way to tell if something else would or wouldn't have repaired that possible paradox.
But, alas, the question is moot, for Mondas failed. lol
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Post by eric009 on Dec 25, 2016 13:31:44 GMT
and what if there had been cyberSilurians or missing link was mondas humans coming to earth before mondas moved
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2016 7:10:13 GMT
Earthshock might not have happened but something else might have taken the ship's place. Time is a tricky business. I'd wager if the Doc, Ben and Polly had survived in the TARDIS, they'd just continue travelling in a universe where Earth was destroyed in 1986. Which erases a couple of the Doc's companions - and Susan! - from existence, but is not a major paradox for Ben and Polly. Heck, they might have still met Jamie. The question is how would the rest of time play out? With the Cybermen taking the place of humans post-1980s, they may have successfully established an empire. As they eventually got time travel in the Primeline, I think it's safe to say they'd become a Temporal Power. Maybe even a big enough threat to the galaxy to warrant Time Lord intervention. Although maybe the Time Lords would step in so much that they would turn the clock back and save Earth. Maybe they already have. Definitely already have, it was called Attack of the Cybermen. The destruction of Earth was enough of a calamity on its own that the Doctor and Lytton believed their actions would completely destroy the Web of Time. As Flast said, the Cybermen truly don't understand the principles of time in the same way that the Time Lords or even the Daleks do. Not yet, not at this point in their chronology. Let's flesh this out... Had the Mondasians succeeded in annihilating the Earth and using its (for want of a better term) "life energy" to supply their own world, then there wouldn't have been humans to construct the freighter captained by Briggs in the twenty-sixth century that wiped out the dinosaurs. With the Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event no longer in history, many of the pure carnivorous and herbivorous species wiped out in the impact would have continued to evolve, along with many species of fauna that starved to death under the subsequent dust cloud. As part of this new surge of diversity, Silurian culture would have probably popped up again and probably become the dominant lifeform on the planet, developing a civilisation and social structure similar to what we've glimpsed several times over in human-centric stories. Assuming that in this new timeline Mondas still arrives in orbit of 1986 Earth (or its equivalent in the Silurian calendar) and the Mondans encounter one of the Silurian city-complexes hidden beneath the Antarctic tundra, would the situation have unfolded differently? The Time Travellers showed that with WOTAN in control, there was a trade agreement established with the Cybermen and a potential embassy for Mondasians set up on that southern-most continent. In a similar divergence, perhaps the Silurian scientists would have discovered that a common garden variety pesticide used against their verminous primates works extremely well against the organic components of the Cybermen? Mondas is devastated with a viral infection, maybe even in spite of the Mondasians being assisted by their temporally displaced cousins from Telos and Silurian history continues to evolve. what if missing link was mondas humans coming to earth before mondas moved offers a pretty good explanation for humanity's missing evolutionary link, much to the shock of Charles Darwin himself. |
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