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Post by fingersmash on Feb 18, 2017 0:44:38 GMT
Just goes to show, radical Islam isn't that much different from radical Christianity. Both should be opposed at all costs. All you have to do, is jump in your Tardis, go back to the continental congress and help them write the laws of the land. So, no problem. That would be Constitutional Convention, unless you want to tell the fathers that the declaration works.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 1:46:12 GMT
Ranting & raving about something I never said. I don't have a problem with Christianity. Or Islam. Or Judaism. Or Hinduism. The problem I have is with the kind of sick violence as represented by radical Islam and radical Christianity. Beheadings by the cowards of ISIS or public broadcasts of executions all the same to me and should be fought at every point. That one is unable to tell the difference between the two or tell the difference between normal Christianity and the darker & more apocalyptic version that would offer up public broadcast of executions as a viable social option really tells everyone all we need to know. What does me wanting to broadcast public hangings, as a deterrent to murder, have to do with radical Christianity? I don't remember quoting Scripture to support that statement. I think America is soft on crime, nothing to do with my religious beliefs. I already know some of my views are extreme. That's not news to me. I don't know a single other Christian who agrees with my beliefs on capital punishment, but like I said, it has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. Believe me, when I start quoting Scripture to support my beliefs, you'll know it.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 18, 2017 1:49:28 GMT
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 1:51:24 GMT
Radical anything can be dangerous if taken too far. The key is to tolerate while not unreasonably imposing. I'm done even pretending to tolerate that bs. I love my country too much for that. Ok then, lets dispense with the pretense. Let's see if you have the go nads to answer a few questions, and ill gladly answer any you have for me. I already know who will say some thing like, "none of those questions matter, it depends on if you are a good person or not." and I cant hold it against those in school, not in the real world yet, but you act like you are living in the real world, so lets find out. Like I said, if you have the go-nads to answer. 1. do you have an actual job? (that means, where you get up and go to work on a fairly daily basis, acting does not count, writing does not count, spending all day on the internet does not count, working from home does count, if its a full time job that you draw a fairly regular paycheck from.) 2. do you pay rent/house payment? (that means you have a rent/house payment lease or mortgage with your name on it.) 3. do you own a car that you bought and paid for? (or in the process of paying for.) 4. did you make enough money to actually pay income tax? (even with a refund, did you pay anything into the federal reserve) 5. Have you ever served in the military? These are strait forward questions, you want to know why I'm asking, then answer them, and ill inform you.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 2:50:42 GMT
Millions would go hungry in this country alone, cause you sure aint gonna feed em. Millions would have no place to sleep tonight, cause you sure aint gonna house em. Millions would be struggling with drugs with no help, cause you sure aint gonna help em. All this, thanks to Christians just in America. Millions others helped all over the world. We've been opposed by folks like you for decades now. And youre still losing badly, but millions are winning. What on earth are you talking about? You accuse Nathan and others of being too liberal and wanting to spend "your money" helping people, but now you assert that it's not the liberals that want to help people but radical Christians? Both views are utter rot, a lot of people from all walks of life want to make a difference, improve the human condition, and no group, however large or small has any kind of monopoly on that. I accuse Nathan of postings like this:Posted by nathangervais 3 hours ago And the obsession with the public broadcast of executions continues. And how much different would the broadcast of executions in this country be to the beheadings that ISIS is so fond of sending out into the world? Remember the good old days when we just had fun around this forum talking about Doctor Who, movies, music, books, comic books, TV shows and other various form of audio entertainment? Then someone came along asking if they could speak their mind, which was really code for don't argue with me because I'm right and everyone else is wrong and now we have what we have. Isn't it all just great? All the while posting anti Trump opinions, from left wing sites, and getting upset because someone upsets his well balanced apple cart...the good old days of last week he refers too, while I willingly read every post, and let him have his say on politics, but if I want to have mine, then all of a sudden, as he says "really code for don't argue with me because I'm right and everyone else is wrong and now we have what we have." Simply put, Nathan is a hypocrite. If it's a crime to tell the truth on this topic then so be it, but that's the truth. It's all fun around the forum talkin bout Doctor Who, movies, music, books, comic books, Tv shows and other audio entertainment, and him posting all that anti trump crap, which for some reason he leaves out of his post, and when I make a genuine, simple request to respect the office of the president, in a manner that I thought was very respectful, I got shot down, well, I had enough. Respect is a 2 way street, theotherjosh has none of mine, for the simple fact, he called me liar, I think he is male, but he sure aint a man, a man would not do that, just as a lady wouldn't. Big difference tween bein male and bein a man, IMO, and I know my opinion means crap to most on here, and they aint gonna lose any sleep over it, just like I aint. I got zero respect for theotherjosh, and none left for Nathan anymore either. He believes in free speech and facts as long as that doesn't contradict his view on the world. Like i said, he's a hypocrite. There are plenty of conservatives on here, that are afraid to speak their mind, because of the far left wing of this site, as you can tell, I aint one of them. One thing though, my lack of respect for them in the political forum, has nothing to do with respect in the other forums. I can argue politics over here all night long, and still be respectful in the other forums, as I think they have been. As far as folks complainin to the mods, they might want to know that this is a political forum right here, we are talking politics, religion mixes in talk with politics, I believe we all understand that. I have no problem with josh, Nathan or anyone else, thinkin or callin me an under educated moron, an idiot, or an extremist, in this forum, where politics are involved. But I also have no problem telling them, like josh, that I don't consider him a man, and I consider Nathan a hypocrite, As long as that remains in this forum. That is what I accuse Nathan and others, as you put it, of on this forum. As far as Christians helpin people, and liberals helpin people, they are 2 different topics, I don't see Christians spending my tax dollars helpin folks. Money i donate to charities, they can use for whatever they want, I sure do see a lot of liberals willin to spend money I didn't donate, but was taxed out of me. Liberals don't have any problem givin someone elses money away. Now, if yall wanna kick me off the site, then so be it. I aint lied about anything, I admit when I'm wrong, and I give everybody their say. 2 things I aint, 1. a liar, 2. a hypocrite. If those accused by my statement think I'm wrong, I'm more than willing to listen to an adult comment about it...This actin like children bickerin all the time does have to come to an end though.
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Post by fingersmash on Feb 18, 2017 3:06:19 GMT
I'm done even pretending to tolerate that bs. I love my country too much for that. Ok then, lets dispense with the pretense. Let's see if you have the go nads to answer a few questions, and ill gladly answer any you have for me. I already know who will say some thing like, "none of those questions matter, it depends on if you are a good person or not." and I cant hold it against those in school, not in the real world yet, but you act like you are living in the real world, so lets find out. Like I said, if you have the go-nads to answer. 1. do you have an actual job? (that means, where you get up and go to work on a fairly daily basis, acting does not count, writing does not count, spending all day on the internet does not count, working from home does count, if its a full time job that you draw a fairly regular paycheck from.) 2. do you pay rent/house payment? (that means you have a rent/house payment lease or mortgage with your name on it.) 3. do you own a car that you bought and paid for? (or in the process of paying for.) 4. did you make enough money to actually pay income tax? (even with a refund, did you pay anything into the federal reserve) 5. Have you ever served in the military? These are strait forward questions, you want to know why I'm asking, then answer them, and ill inform you. I'll have the gonads to do it. Just because I'm curious for why. 1. No. I'm a student studying at university for a degree in hospitality with a minor in French. I do, however, work two jobs in order to pay for school. 2. No, I live at home in order to save the money so I can afford to pay for school. 3. Yes 4. Yes. I paid about $1,000 in taxes this year and got back a little over $500. 5. No, however I have the highest respect for servicemen and women and what they do. My mental state is far too weak to put myself into what those amazing men and women do.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 18, 2017 3:07:22 GMT
I'm not anyone's monkey.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 3:07:48 GMT
do you mean like radical Liberalism? Complaining bout how the site is so nice when only those who post anti trump are around? I do agree with your post. And wouldn't think of imposing my beliefs on anyone. I don't think any religious beliefs should be imposed on anyone. That's one of my arguments in favor of abortion. Radical liberals? Its not as if any of us are dumping blood on fur coats, or or trying to turn people gay, or whatever else it is that "radical liberals" do. We're just having a civilized(ish) debate. I don't mind you being around, as long as you're not being offensive. I like to have my views challenged. Just be more careful about some of the things that you say. radical liberalism was intended as a joke, but I do forget, my sense of humor tends more to John Boy and Billy, Larry the Cable Guy and Jerry Clower rather than The Daily Show and Saturday night live.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 18, 2017 3:16:18 GMT
More of a Jeff Foxworthy guy myself.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 3:17:36 GMT
Ok then, lets dispense with the pretense. Let's see if you have the go nads to answer a few questions, and ill gladly answer any you have for me. I already know who will say some thing like, "none of those questions matter, it depends on if you are a good person or not." and I cant hold it against those in school, not in the real world yet, but you act like you are living in the real world, so lets find out. Like I said, if you have the go-nads to answer. 1. do you have an actual job? (that means, where you get up and go to work on a fairly daily basis, acting does not count, writing does not count, spending all day on the internet does not count, working from home does count, if its a full time job that you draw a fairly regular paycheck from.) 2. do you pay rent/house payment? (that means you have a rent/house payment lease or mortgage with your name on it.) 3. do you own a car that you bought and paid for? (or in the process of paying for.) 4. did you make enough money to actually pay income tax? (even with a refund, did you pay anything into the federal reserve) 5. Have you ever served in the military? These are strait forward questions, you want to know why I'm asking, then answer them, and ill inform you. I'll have the gonads to do it. Just because I'm curious for why. 1. No. I'm a student studying at university for a degree in hospitality with a minor in French. I do, however, work two jobs in order to pay for school. 2. No, I live at home in order to save the money so I can afford to pay for school. 3. Yes 4. Yes. I paid about $1,000 in taxes this year and got back a little over $500. 5. No, however I have the highest respect for servicemen and women and what they do. My mental state is far too weak to put myself into what those amazing men and women do. 1. Damn I'm impressed! 2. That would be considered appropriate 3. More impressed 4. As a full time student(I assume full time) I would lobby that you should pay no taxes while enrolled. But still more impressed. That tells me you are workin your arse off and tryin to improve yourself 5. The military is not for everyone, mentally, well, that's where the greatest toll comes from. These were directed at Nathan, and him saying how he loved his country so much, I wondered if he actually contributed to it. I don't know if you are American or not, but I would have no problem sayin that you are doin a lot in contributing to the betterment of not only yourself, but your country. Good luck in school, and I don't think I have to tell you, don't forget your parents if you win the lottery. As far as you actually having to work for a livin for the rest of your life, well, welcome to the real world, eat, sleep, work, repeat.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 3:21:11 GMT
More of a Jeff Foxworthy guy myself. He got bout half of his redneck material from folks round here. Ok, maybe more than half. All right all right, I do have more cars in my driveway that don't run than those that do. But, there are no wheels on my home, thank you.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 18, 2017 3:25:23 GMT
Pretty nice guy actually. Whenever he is in New Orleans he always has a meal at a place I used to work at for the better part of a decade. I remember Jerry Clower from Hee Haw.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 18, 2017 3:40:53 GMT
So if I say I think a person is a extremist and that same person says, I think America is soft on crime, nothing to do with my religious beliefs. I already know some of my views are extreme. That's not news to me. I don't know a single other Christian who agrees with my beliefs on capital punishment, but like I said, it has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. , where is the problem?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 3:49:20 GMT
So if I say I think a person is a extremist and that same person says, I think America is soft on crime, nothing to do with my religious beliefs. I already know some of my views are extreme. That's not news to me. I don't know a single other Christian who agrees with my beliefs on capital punishment, but like I said, it has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. , where is the problem? No problem there. But, I hope you realize I'm not a Christian Extremist, Christian extremists believe homosexuals should be put to death, the same with adulterers and other things they consider crimes against God, things that do not hurt anyone in the process. Do you get what I'm sayin there?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 3:51:30 GMT
My extreme views all come from crimes in which folks are hurting other people. In the most violent of ways.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 18, 2017 3:58:56 GMT
It still doesn't explain why labeling someone as an extremist when they admit to holding extremist views make the person referring to the other person as extreme wrong. Like Trump's comment yesterday about the news leaks being true but the reporting of those leaks to be fake. It simply doesn't make any sense and a person can't have it both ways.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 4:20:40 GMT
It still doesn't explain why labeling someone as an extremist when they admit to holding extremist views make the person referring to the other person as extreme wrong. Like Trump's comment yesterday about the news leaks being true but the reporting of those leaks to be fake. It simply doesn't make any sense and a person can't have it both ways. Perhaps I misinterpreted it, but what I read, you labeled me a Christian Extremist. If you want to call me an extremist, I'm fine with that. In some views I know I am. Sticking another label in front of extremist, can change the whole meaning of what that person is extreme about. I also believe in some views, you are extremist to the other extent, would that be fair to say? (Like say your loathing for Trump, which I don't hold against anyone.) If you don't think that's fair, then just tell me. I don't believe you to have extreme views anything like mine, but then again, who does?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 18, 2017 6:02:44 GMT
Hysterical.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 18, 2017 11:59:31 GMT
One thing I love about Americans is that they think they have a right and left party's. .. They have a right and a very right. You couldn't be more wrong about that. In comparison to European politics it is a fair statement. To give you an example in the UK our left-centre party created the NHS (yes 70 years ago, but point stands) which given to amount of controversy over Obamacare must be considered a very left-wing idea by Americans. Not suggesting there aren't some left wing ideas in American politics, Sanders proved they are active in the Democrat Party, but they don't generally dictate policy.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Feb 18, 2017 12:11:52 GMT
Alright folks, the personal attacks continue, we've given ample warning and some choose to ignore our warnings - this thread is now locked
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