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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 0:19:38 GMT
Hey everyone,
Which film is worse: Fant4stic Four or Batman V Superman?
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Post by Timelord007 on Feb 8, 2017 9:54:32 GMT
Seriously....Fantastic Four hands down utter garbage, BVS was no masterpiece but it did have it's moments.
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Post by omega on Feb 8, 2017 10:01:25 GMT
Zach Snyder at least wanted to make a Batman and Superman movie while Josh Trank made The Fly WITH SUPERHEROES.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 8, 2017 10:37:07 GMT
Tricky one
I can watch FF and say to myself "This is Bad" in general its shot way too dark and the acting's wooden.
With BVS its a spaghetti non-seneschal plot with moments of "What the Heck were they thinking"?!
Regards
mark687
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 8, 2017 10:42:21 GMT
... With BVS its a spaghetti non-seneschal plot with moments of "What the Heck were they thinking"?! Regards mark687 That comment has just about convinced me never to watch it . Cheers Tony
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Feb 8, 2017 13:20:30 GMT
Fantastic Four because its obvious what are reshoots, basically the second half of the movie. And thats because they studio took it away and changed it.
I'd love to see Tranks original version, which the cast seemed to prefer, even if a couple didnt get on with Trank
BVS was just edited down. Now if theyd released the Ultimate Edition in cinemas, i dont think they'd have had such a bad reaction
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Post by relativetime on Feb 8, 2017 15:00:12 GMT
I haven't seen Fan4stic, but I think most people I know went into this movie expecting a bad movie, so the disappointment wasn't all that bad. With BvS, I definitely went into the theatre with a lot of skepticism, but I wouldn't say I expected the movie to be as bad as it was. The trailer was absolutely pitiful and I definitely didn't approve of the casting of Jesse Eisenberg as Luther, but I figured there were some definite reasons to believe the movie'd be great.
So Fan4stic might be the worse movie (again, I have no idea since I haven't seen it) but BvS was far and away the biggest letdown.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 17:05:08 GMT
BvS is far worse. They're both bad pics but Fan4stic suffers mostly because there's literally a middle act that the studio took out. What is there makes a modicum of sense. It's not good - at all - but it's a film. BvS has more holes than a sieve, absysmal writing, poor plotting, woeful characterisation and completely fails as the launching pad for a shared universe. As noted by RelativeTime there was also a lot more public disappointment with BvS. After 2 pretty bad FF movies in the 2000s, we got another one. No biggie. But BvS had to follow Nolan's Batman films. T
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Post by muckypup on Feb 8, 2017 17:11:00 GMT
Fantastic four, it was nothing more than half a movie.
While I loved bat v super, I only watched the extended cut but it all made perfect sense to me....but more tv series paced than blockbuster It did lots of stuff wrong, but after nolans mangling of batman it was nice to see him being a super hero again with super villains and not a cop drama with a man in a rubber suit.
But then again what do I know, I hated deadpool while everyone else seemed to love it, but may be my hatred of Ryan Reynolds clouded my judgement
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 20:41:17 GMT
I'd have to go with the FF as being the worst of the two... by a country mile.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 9, 2017 11:09:27 GMT
At least BvS tried to be a film with something resembling arcs and themes, and to its credit, Snyder at least delivered a well made film from a technical standpoint.
Yes, I feel bad for Trank, but Fant4stic is not only worse on every concievable level, speaking as a filmmaker myself, but there is simply no excuse for it. No one has made a film combining Bats and Supes before, so there would also be the possibility of mistakes. We've 3 FF Movies, more than enough to show what works and what doesn't. Just make a big cosmic adventure story. That's it. You don't need to be deep or original or groundbreaking, just have fun in the sci-fi pool.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 9, 2017 11:11:51 GMT
Even with what was in the theatrical cut, I don't think Trank and Kinberg at all got FF. The piece is not Cronenburg horror by way of Marvel Ultimate. It may have an element of that with the discovery of the powers, but as a whole, it's fundamentally the wrong tone and perspective for the story.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 9, 2017 17:49:08 GMT
I still wonder bout the ff movie that was canned but never released from the 90s and if it wasn't better than the newest one.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 9, 2017 18:49:15 GMT
I still wonder bout the ff movie that was canned but never released from the 90s and if it wasn't better than the newest one. Don't need to wonder. You can find copies of it all over youtube. Just type in fantastic four 1994, and there you go.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 9, 2017 19:11:21 GMT
I still wonder bout the ff movie that was canned but never released from the 90s and if it wasn't better than the newest one. Don't need to wonder. You can find copies of it all over youtube. Just type in fantastic four 1994, and there you go. oh, that's sweet!
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