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Post by pawntake on Feb 14, 2017 10:15:11 GMT
This thread is inspired by Dalektimecontrollers inquiry about a Jago and Litefoot story "The lonely clock" in which he says
"I've never had this much difficulty understanding a Big Finish play before and am slightly embarrassed to have to ask for clarification"
For me it was volume 2 of TNA of B Summerfield "The triumph of sutekh" which was thoroughly entertaining,but i was baffled by how all the stories linked together.
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Post by omega on Feb 14, 2017 10:58:13 GMT
The Time Vampire and The Abandoned. Both are Nigel Fairs scripts btw.
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Post by aztec on Feb 14, 2017 15:52:14 GMT
I really enjoyed Zagreus, but I'm not sure I actually understood all of it...
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Post by mrperson on Feb 14, 2017 22:07:18 GMT
When I first started listening, I had trouble following some stories. It turned out that every now and then, my ipod messed the order up. As in, I had it loaded in order on iTunes, but when transferring it to the ipod the order ended up being Parts 3,4,1,2. I recall this happening with "Protect and Survive", for instance. At first, I thought maybe this was a more experimental take on presenting an episode, but then I noticed the issue. Other than that, I wouldn't say that I have failed to understand any of the episodes. I might have missed something on first past in a complex episode, but not to the point of being truly befuddled about what is going on. For example, Cold Fusion
I understood the plot and everything, but wasn't sure exactly what I was supposed to make of the business with the Doctor's recall of memories (whether his, someone else's, etc) when first making contact with Patience; of course it really didn't help that Big Finish had and still has referred to her as "the Doctor's Wife" in its blurb on the release, when that apparently wasn't ever made explicit in the book, which I also hadn't read.
Little things like that can throw me for a bit, but I work it out in time.
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Post by number13 on Feb 14, 2017 22:20:09 GMT
It took me three listens to be sure I'd got 'The Wrong Doctors' worked out completely.
Enjoyable because it's a great story.
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Post by omega on Feb 15, 2017 9:14:50 GMT
I really enjoyed Zagreus, but I'm not sure I actually understood all of it... That's a proper need to focus and tune out the celebratory aspects story. You've got to admire the ambition in the story, even if it is lost on the majority of those who have heard it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 9:28:48 GMT
I really enjoyed Zagreus, but I'm not sure I actually understood all of it... That's a proper need to focus and tune out the celebratory aspects story. You've got to admire the ambition in the story, even if it is lost on the majority of those who have heard it. I'm a fan of certain aspects of the story. I rather enjoyed the projections with Charley and the TARDIS, but the scenes in the TARDIS with a manic Doctor really didn't do the story any favours for me. The decision to villainise Rassilon was an understandable one, but a bit mishandled as well. It works quite a great deal better if approached as just another ongoing tale rather than an anniversary special. |
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Post by omega on Feb 15, 2017 9:33:14 GMT
That's a proper need to focus and tune out the celebratory aspects story. You've got to admire the ambition in the story, even if it is lost on the majority of those who have heard it. I'm a fan of certain aspects of the story. I rather enjoyed the projections with Charley and the TARDIS, but the scenes in the TARDIS with a manic Doctor really didn't do the story any favours for me. The decision to villainise Rassilon was an understandable one, but a bit mishandled as well. It works quite a great deal better if approached as just another ongoing tale rather than an anniversary special. That's entirely my view of it, and I think why it's such an unpopular story. On the surface it looks like an anniversary story that's actually very arc heavy (a five minute previously on for example). However if you look at it just as an arc transition story it fares a lot better. Yes, the alumni making up most of the cast does seem strange, but it's really quite novel and doesn't outstay its welcome. Plus, it's the first appearance of Anneke Wills as Lady Louisa Pollard. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 9:48:50 GMT
I'm a fan of certain aspects of the story. I rather enjoyed the projections with Charley and the TARDIS, but the scenes in the TARDIS with a manic Doctor really didn't do the story any favours for me. The decision to villainise Rassilon was an understandable one, but a bit mishandled as well. It works quite a great deal better if approached as just another ongoing tale rather than an anniversary special. That's entirely my view of it, and I think why it's such an unpopular story. On the surface it looks like an anniversary story that's actually very arc heavy (a five minute previously on for example). However if you look at it just as an arc transition story it fares a lot better. Yes, the alumni making up most of the cast does seem strange, but it's really quite novel and doesn't outstay its welcome. Plus, it's the first appearance of Anneke Wills as Lady Louisa Pollard. The long gap between that and Neverland was the mistake I think and there are two main problems it has to contend with straight out of the gate. Firstly, it's trapped in the unfortunate position of resolving the anti-time infection in a devilishly interesting way from Neverland, which unfortunately I don't think it really did. He Jests at Scars is much closer to what I think people had really expected, although I'd have loved to see what Rob Shearman or Jim Mortimore would have done with the situation. Secondly, it's got its fingers caught in the Divergent Universe, an arc that's often sadly regarded as a low point in the Eighth Doctor's adventures on audio where an interesting scenario wasn't really explored to its fullest potential. Troubled enough that Paul McGann considered bowing out before the N-EDAs were suggested and Lucie Miller introduced into the mix. Consequently, where Storm Warning is regarded as a fond beginning, Blood of the Daleks an interesting continuation, Zagreus is regarded as the pivot where things start to go a bit downhill. Whether or not that's true depends entirely upon the individual, but it's certainly got that reputation. |
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Post by dalektimecontroller on Feb 18, 2017 3:46:12 GMT
Well as the OP mentioned, The Lonely Clock is still confusing to me and I've listened to it twice (only recently purchased).
Another that took me a long time to fully grasp was Brotherhood of the Daleks which had me scratching my head even after a re-listen straight after I heard it the first time. Worth persevering for me though as I love it now.
The first series of Cyberman was confusing for a totally different reason. Ian Brooker plays a number of roles even in the first episode, and they all sound alike to me. I couldn't figure out when it was Heliton, Hendry, Glaust, etc.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 18, 2017 4:11:26 GMT
The first BF I ever listened to was The Twilight Kingdom, to say I was lost would be an understatement. As I think I posted on another thread, I literally missed my exit I was so lost, course bein somewhere near the Jets stadium didn't help.
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Post by elkawho on Feb 18, 2017 4:47:19 GMT
Well as the OP mentioned, The Lonely Clock is still confusing to me and I've listened to it twice (only recently purchased). Another that took me a long time to fully grasp was Brotherhood of the Daleks which had me scratching my head even after a re-listen straight after I heard it the first time. Worth persevering for me though as I love it now. The first series of Cyberman was confusing for a totally different reason. Ian Brooker plays a number of roles even in the first episode, and they all sound alike to me. I couldn't figure out when it was Heliton, Hendry, Glaust, etc. The first time I heard Brotherhood Of The Daleks, I had the iTunes mixed up track problem that mr.person mentioned. I also thought it was non-linear storytelling at first so I kept listening. I was completely confused. I mean, it's confusing enough when hearing it in the right order! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 6:00:49 GMT
Oh, I've got one. The Hollows of Time.
Where do I begin...?
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Post by smith11 on Feb 18, 2017 11:29:27 GMT
TBH I have never really understood fully both series of River Song box sets. Only listened to them once though so...
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Post by Ela on Feb 19, 2017 3:11:51 GMT
TBH I have never really understood fully both series of River Song box sets. Only listened to them once though so... Listening more than once helps. |
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Post by barnabaslives on Feb 19, 2017 4:04:42 GMT
I usually only have trouble understanding the ones I don't pay close enough attention to.
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Post by Ela on Feb 19, 2017 4:06:43 GMT
Sometimes I miss things cause I listen in the car, mostly on the way to and from work. So I often listen to stories more than once.
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