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Post by smith11 on Mar 14, 2017 15:59:43 GMT
Could the War Doctor not be a potential candidate for the third story? "Battered leather jacket" matches him as well as the Ninth. Same for "weary from his own people's conflict" from the second story synopsis. I doubt it, the ninth doctor is always described as being in "a battered leather jacket" as it's probably his most recognised feature. If they were describing the war doctor I'd say his beard and old age sets him apart from the other doctors. Also the synopsis for human conflict seems closer to describing the war doctor. I could be wrong though and it could all be vice versa
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 14, 2017 16:43:08 GMT
It's a fair point. I'm looking forward to hearing more news of the set. Presently, the set is linked on the collected Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh Doctor pages, but that could be wrong. Classic Doctors New Monsters 2 was linked on the collected Seventh Doctor page for a time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 22:06:42 GMT
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 14, 2017 22:33:24 GMT
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 15, 2017 3:42:26 GMT
From the sound of the sound of the second stories synopsis, I think we can except either {Spoiler} Eight or the War Doctor appearing this time, as well as 11 in the 1st, 9 in the 3rd and probably 10 in the 4th but not sure as no clues are given in the synopsis. "Weary" sounds like Nine, "Battered leather jacket" sounds Warrish. Nine's leather jacket is described in volume 1 as battered.
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Post by mbt66 on Mar 15, 2017 10:56:45 GMT
It is great to see Madame Vastra in a Big Finish release, although "special permission" from Steven Moffat makes a Peternoster Gang boxset sound doubtful.
From a marketing point of view it makes a lot of sense, becuase they have held the least interest to me and I believe from the forum comments that I am not alone.
Personally I would have preferred if these Churchill Years stories had been full cast without the need to include news series Doctors with narration. If they had been I would have already ordered them. I know it has been developed as a range to exploit the new series licence, but there must be stories to tell with characters from the new series, such as Madame Vastra, without the need for the Doctor turning up.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 15, 2017 11:02:29 GMT
Yeah, there's still plenty that can be done with Vastra.
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Post by constonks on Mar 15, 2017 18:22:59 GMT
"Weary" sounds like Nine, "Battered leather jacket" sounds Warrish. Nine's leather jacket is described in volume 1 as battered. True enough. They could both be Ninth Doctor stories.
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Post by Zagreus on Mar 15, 2017 21:14:15 GMT
Would be nice for this set to have two Ninth Doctor stories in a year where Ten & Eleven are getting Doctor Chronicles sets. Would almost be like the Companion Chronicles and Early Adventures trading off Doctors
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 1:29:24 GMT
Would be nice for this set to have two Ninth Doctor stories in a year where Ten & Eleven are getting Doctor Chronicles sets. Would almost be like the Companion Chronicles and Early Adventures trading off Doctors
Eh, I think we'll probably just get the one for the anticipation. We don't know yet, though if there won't be a Ninth Doctor set in 2018, though (If the first release is popular enough, though - an earlier release date is a close bet
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Post by Whovitt on May 10, 2017 7:08:22 GMT
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Post by gregm on May 10, 2017 7:15:24 GMT
You know what would be nice? If she were Penelope Wilton, it w0uld be lovely to hear a cross-time meeting between PM Winston Churchill and PM Harriet Jones. Maybe a parallel threat in the two time periods?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 10, 2017 7:38:31 GMT
Strange that we now know more about this than The Eighth Doctor: The Time War.
I Was Churchill's Double sounds like an interesting story.
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Post by mark687 on May 10, 2017 9:13:34 GMT
And yet no new Cast details curious
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Post by denyer97 on May 10, 2017 9:19:16 GMT
I'm not really drawn to this range, I haven't got vol 1 and I don't intend to get vol 2 unless it gets stellar reviews, but I must say the cover is beautiful!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 10:05:24 GMT
I really don't understand why Big Finish are so reluctant to use classic era Doctors and/or other characters, so as to eliminate the need for narration for anything other than the odd bit of descriptive when/if necessary. McNiece is a wonderful performer, but he's a terribly bland narrator, and that really hurt the first set for me, personally.
Plus there are plenty of characters that new series fans would be familiar with, the Fifth and Eighth Doctors both had popular new series minisode appearances, and other characters like Captain Jack, River Song, Vastra (who they are using here), Strax, The Master/Missy, Ashildr, and so on could all be used quite easily opposite McNiece's Churchill to tell interesting, valid stories without too much trouble (beyond actor availability). Everything doesn't have to be a Churchill/Doctor team up, does it? I mean they are called the Churchill Years, not Churchill and the Doctor, after all. How about The Doctor sending Churchill a K-9 unit to help for a bit? And if they were willing to go into the classic era and their extended universe, then the possibilities are nigh endless - not just classic Doctors, but Romana, Bernice Summerfield, Charlotte Pollard, the Monk, Jago & Litefoot, the list goes on.
If they want to make this a viable series I just think they need to expand their horizons a bit, personally. Vastra is a good first step, but if these are still heavily narration based on McNiece's side, I find it hard to drum up much excitement after the last set.
Just my opinion, anyway.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 10, 2017 10:36:40 GMT
I'm not really drawn to this range, I haven't got vol 1 and I don't intend to get vol 2 unless it gets stellar reviews, but I must say the cover is beautiful! I don't have Volume 1 yet either. I plan on buying it at some point, I just didn't find Young Kazran and Lily Arwell enticing enough for a day one purchase. The prospect of Madame Vastra meeting Churchill is interesting though.
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Post by denyer97 on May 10, 2017 11:50:32 GMT
I'm not really drawn to this range, I haven't got vol 1 and I don't intend to get vol 2 unless it gets stellar reviews, but I must say the cover is beautiful! I don't have Volume 1 yet either. I plan on buying it at some point, I just didn't find Young Kazran and Lily Arwell enticing enough for a day one purchase. The prospect of Madame Vastra meeting Churchill is interesting though. With some of the characters it feels like they're being shore horned in which isn't a bad thing if the stories are good, and I didn't hear overwhelmingly positive things about the first set. If they're going to use the new series characters I'd rather it be in new series companion chronicles or short trips, I'm a huge fan of both ranges especially the CC and as it's unlikely we'll be seeing any new series doctors or even main companions signing up in the next few years, that should really be the way forward.
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Post by acousticwolf on May 10, 2017 12:49:31 GMT
I quite like volume 1 and ordered volume 2 as part of the bundle but not sure how much mileage there is in this range. My biggest concern with these "new series" chronicle style releases (inc. the Doctor Chronicles) is that I feel BF are stretching themselves across too many "similar style" boxsets. Why not have one Chronicle Range (either Doctor Chronicle or Companion Chronicle) that contains new series Doctors and his friends. You could still have a story about Churchil and Vastra (without the Doctor), and a story about the Doctor with Jackie or Adam in the same boxset. As it stands BF could be in danger of producing too many similar boxsets (with tenuous links to the new series) that don't sell well. For example, a Companion set could contain four stories from many of the spin-off ideas (Vastra, Strax, Micky, Martha, Last Centurion, etc.) either with or without a new series Doctor as a major character. Similarly, why not have a Doctor Chronicle boxset that contains three or four stories spanning all new series Doctors, either narrated by Nick (as the Doctor) or the companions. I'd be more willing to buy that than separate boxsets for each Doctor (without CE, DT & MS). Just my thoughts, feel free to ignore them Cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 20:22:30 GMT
I quite like volume 1 and ordered volume 2 as part of the bundle but not sure how much mileage there is in this range. My biggest concern with these "new series" chronicle style releases (inc. the Doctor Chronicles) is that I feel BF are stretching themselves across too many "similar style" boxsets. Why not have one Chronicle Range (either Doctor Chronicle or Companion Chronicle) that contains new series Doctors and his friends. You could still have a story about Churchil and Vastra (without the Doctor), and a story about the Doctor with Jackie or Adam in the same boxset. As it stands BF could be in danger of producing too many similar boxsets (with tenuous links to the new series) that don't sell well. For example, a Companion set could contain four stories from many of the spin-off ideas (Vastra, Strax, Micky, Martha, Last Centurion, etc.) either with or without a new series Doctor as a major character. Similarly, why not have a Doctor Chronicle boxset that contains three or four stories spanning all new series Doctors, either narrated by Nick (as the Doctor) or the companions. I'd be more willing to buy that than separate boxsets for each Doctor (without CE, DT & MS). Just my thoughts, feel free to ignore them Cheers Tony No, you make a good point. Big Finish does have to be careful not to release too many Chronicles releases too quickly. Although I think there is still room to "theme" them, as long as they alternate. Churchill in February, 10th and 11th later in the year. I suppose that's fine, having three in one year, if you only follow the new series material. If not I do think it's not spread out enough, forcing many to pick and choose and leading to poor sales. (Also, the Churchill Chronicles may now be a better title, for consistency.)
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