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Post by frisby78 on Jan 25, 2020 20:41:48 GMT
The environmental argument against the plastic in CDs is bit of a odd one really. I'd say a very high percentage of people who buy CDs collect and keep them. They are not going to end up in landfill like a coke bottle. I still have my cd's from the very early 90's - they all still work fine. Still have my video cassettes and audio cassettes too.
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Post by muckypup on Jan 25, 2020 21:41:17 GMT
No matter how nick try’s to dress things up........the main range worked for 20 years changing it is a way to force more sales and give less like quietly dropping the bonus short trips If they need to charge more, just do so......stop buggering about.......I don’t want any more box sets, ranges that go nowhere, collections or other ways to extract more money for less product And as to the plastic issue.......let’s worry about the packaging issue first before we try and destroy the products........ Because something works for 20 years doesn't mean it will continue to work for another 20. Or another 20 days. Things change. Circumstances change. Buying habits change. The market changes. Of course BF wants to grow sales. They are a business. And you base them dropping Short Trips bonuses on what exactly? But there is also if it ain’t broke....... you really think they gone give away short trips once it transitions to boxes or what ever they got in mind........ But we will see.......
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 25, 2020 21:46:55 GMT
Because something works for 20 years doesn't mean it will continue to work for another 20. Or another 20 days. Things change. Circumstances change. Buying habits change. The market changes. Of course BF wants to grow sales. They are a business. And you base them dropping Short Trips bonuses on what exactly? But there is also if it ain’t broke....... you really think they gone give away short trips once it transitions to boxes or what ever they got in mind........ But we will see....... We aren’t Big Finish. We don’t have the information about their sales figures and trends that they do. Do you really think they would be contemplating a major change to their base business model if they didn’t have information to support such a move?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 22:05:25 GMT
Because something works for 20 years doesn't mean it will continue to work for another 20. Or another 20 days. Things change. Circumstances change. Buying habits change. The market changes. Of course BF wants to grow sales. They are a business. And you base them dropping Short Trips bonuses on what exactly? But there is also if it ain’t broke....... you really think they gone give away short trips once it transitions to boxes or what ever they got in mind........ But we will see....... I think there is as case that they have up to now done things the way they want to do, as fans themselves, and now acting as business needing to adjust to what they need to do to keep themselves in the black. Maybe if they are looking to attract actors from nu who, there is an significant upscale in fees that they have not had with key players from the classic series, of whom this is their main acting work as semi retirees for most. It could be a case of financing the future involvement of guest stars as well as Doctors. Just a theory, feel free to disagree. As Virgil Sollezzo said "Its business, nothing personal". I really think that the shortage of post 2005 full cast dramas are due to hard economics and if we want these things, they have to be financed. Would you pay an extra fiver per disc for Matt Smith and Karen Gillan on audio, or Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman? Many would, but its still a gamble of which may be better approached with distributed costs.
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Post by muckypup on Jan 25, 2020 22:28:01 GMT
But there is also if it ain’t broke....... you really think they gone give away short trips once it transitions to boxes or what ever they got in mind........ But we will see....... We aren’t Big Finish. We don’t have the information about their sales figures and trends that they do. Do you really think they would be contemplating a major change to their base business model if they didn’t have information to support such a move? probably not, and i thinking about it the age of the doctors has a bearing on it going forward......heaven forbid we lose one but that's a third of productions that the subscription model would need to make up somehow....... so i can see the need, i'm just not sure i like it......lol
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Post by muckypup on Jan 25, 2020 22:50:56 GMT
But there is also if it ain’t broke....... you really think they gone give away short trips once it transitions to boxes or what ever they got in mind........ But we will see....... I think there is as case that they have up to now done things the way they want to do, as fans themselves, and now acting as business needing to adjust to what they need to do to keep themselves in the black. Maybe if they are looking to attract actors from nu who, there is an significant upscale in fees that they have not had with key players from the classic series, of whom this is their main acting work as semi retirees for most. It could be a case of financing the future involvement of guest stars as well as Doctors. Just a theory, feel free to disagree. As Virgil Sollezzo said "Its business, nothing personal". I really think that the shortage of post 2005 full cast dramas are due to hard economics and if we want these things, they have to be financed. Would you pay an extra fiver per disc for Matt Smith and Karen Gillan on audio, or Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman? Many would, but its still a gamble of which may be better approached with distributed costs. no.....lol i have no real desire to have smith or capaldi audios, ive not been keen on the tennant ones (i dont think he works that great on audio) of course if they were too make them i would buy them........but there not on my wish list...hehehe but they need to do what they need to do, that's fine I don't always have to like it and lets remember big finish are a tiny company with a big brand serving a niche audience how ever they want my money is ok.......there is nobody that could replace them should we lose them
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Post by mark687 on Feb 1, 2020 22:44:44 GMT
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 2, 2020 0:58:32 GMT
Controversial about what? 🤔
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Post by mark687 on Feb 2, 2020 1:02:30 GMT
Controversial about what? 🤔 Don't critique Briggs And an off mic comment concerning this weeks political Event Regards mark687
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 2, 2020 1:04:01 GMT
Controversial about what? 🤔 Don't critique Briggs And an off mic comment this weeks political Event Regards mark687 Ah I see. I'm against Brexit, but it really shouldn't be in a BF podcast.
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Post by Star Platinum on Feb 2, 2020 1:57:50 GMT
No matter how nick try’s to dress things up........the main range worked for 20 years changing it is a way to force more sales and give less like quietly dropping the bonus short trips If they need to charge more, just do so......stop buggering about.......I don’t want any more box sets, ranges that go nowhere, collections or other ways to extract more money for less product And as to the plastic issue.......let’s worry about the packaging issue first before we try and destroy the products........ Whoa, when was dropping the subscriber short trips mentioned?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 2:39:55 GMT
I never - and I mean never - listen to the podcast and haven't done for years since before Benji joined it. I never hear good things, that it's often little more than Nick talking about his own stuff, and any actual news comes out anyway. How fun it was then to listen to it this week....and hear it be "I'm Nick Briggs and now lets talk for 10 minutes about my own project, The Human Frontier, which isn't out for 3 months but let's talk about it now anyway, so you can pre-order it". Then after reviews.....another 10 minutes of it. Then some Random Selection for the weekly title...and some more Human Frontier talk. Then some emails and more Human Frontier talk. I thought people were exaggerating! I kid *mostly* as I think that much self promotion is maaaaybe forgivable since it's been recorded this week and it's nice to know it's finally done after what feels like a lifetime. Are the reviews always from outlets and websites rather than private purchasers? That's a bit odd. Especially when the same outlets are quoted for multiple releases and wouldn't you know...loved them all. Personally I think the most controversial thing on this is Nick saying he "loves The Beast Below". Clearly someone who thinks that shouldn't be running a bath never mind a company who mainly produce Doctor Who! If it's always like this...I salute anyone who can endure it each week. It was like BF Propoganda Machines had taken over my speakers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 3:00:11 GMT
No matter how nick try’s to dress things up........the main range worked for 20 years changing it is a way to force more sales and give less like quietly dropping the bonus short trips If they need to charge more, just do so......stop buggering about.......I don’t want any more box sets, ranges that go nowhere, collections or other ways to extract more money for less product And as to the plastic issue.......let’s worry about the packaging issue first before we try and destroy the products........ Whoa, when was dropping the subscriber short trips mentioned? It wasn't. Pup assumes it, there's no evidence to support it as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 3:03:04 GMT
Don't critique Briggs And an off mic comment this weeks political Event Regards mark687 Ah I see. I'm against Brexit, but it really shouldn't be in a BF podcast. It hardly was. The dreaded "B" word wasn't used. There was a minor reference to some overseas red tape getting BF items to Turkey from the EU and Benji just mentioned it maybe changing as of yesterday. Much ado about nothing.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 2, 2020 4:17:52 GMT
Yeah. I'm getting echoes of those days a few years ago when The Prisoner was coming out. It sure feels like we will be hearing A LOT of The Human Frontier as Nick flogs it over & over again. I will say, I do like the idea of recording the podcast during recording dates for various audios.
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Post by Whovitt on Feb 2, 2020 4:45:34 GMT
That's quite disappointing to hear I've enjoyed all the Originals on one level or another, and it's a shame that none of them have done well enough to get a sequel. Well, except for ATA Girl of course, but given ATA Girl 2 consists of only two episode and sounds like (from what I've read, though I could be mistaken) the end of the series, it would seem the Originals have failed somewhat. I suppose, if nothing else, we can at least enjoy what we've got. The company attempted to diversify a bit and succeeded splendidly, especially with the likes of Transference, a type of story I don't think they've attempted before (and extremely disappointed that they're unlikely to do again). It's just a shame that not enough people bought into them. Given the apparent lack of interest in their previous Originals though, I think Nick should probably lower his expectations on The Human Frontier doing well (I'm not saying I think it's going to be bad, I'm merely extrapolating on the apparent lack of popularity of the other Originals). It just doesn't sound like they really got an audience Damn, this news is really disappointing...
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Post by Star Platinum on Feb 2, 2020 6:05:36 GMT
Ah I see. I'm against Brexit, but it really shouldn't be in a BF podcast. It hardly was. The dreaded "B" word wasn't used. There was a minor reference to some overseas red tape getting BF items to Turkey from the EU and Benji just mentioned it maybe changing as of yesterday. Much ado about nothing. That's a relief, I was worried for a moment
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Post by axelotl38 on Feb 2, 2020 8:33:27 GMT
I've mentioned this before quite a while back and kinda got jumped on (and I was perhaps harsh with my language in that time) but I'll say it again: It feels like people really just want to find any opportunity to jump on Briggs within the podcast if he says anything remotely negative or not 100% super-duper positive (even if it's about criticism directed about him!).
Meanwhile it's disappointing, but not necessarily surprising about the Originals. BF have made no secret that DW is their highest selling product, and that a lot of their sales of other ranges are somewhat dependent on the Doctor Who people, or carry a lot of crossover. So a series of audios that have zero connection to any franchise? Not suuuuuper surprising. But incredibly disappointing as there was some fantastic ideas, and I appreciate Big Finish trying to branch out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 9:22:31 GMT
Perhaps I'm choosing to interpret what Nick said differently, but weren't his exact words concerning sequels to the Originals "no plans at the moment"? There was no mention of poor sales or even an outright "not gonna happen!" (granted there was an audible sigh from Nick when Benji was reading the email out..but even so..).
It suggests (to my optimistic old heart at least) that while the door to follow ups may not be fully open for Big Finish right now, it might not have been permanently slammed shut either.
At least, I hope it does.. 😳
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 2, 2020 9:36:38 GMT
I know I'm always banging the 'physical media drum' so to speak, but I think they missed a trick with some of the originals ATA Girl for example would, possibly, appeal to an older audience or fans of war films, my dad for example, but have no interest in downloading.
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