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Post by lidar on Oct 23, 2015 12:42:38 GMT
Can anyone shed any light on the writer of Doom Coalition 1.4, Edward Collier? I was curious at a writer we hadn't previously heard much of getting a slot on one of BF's flagship box sets, his non-appearance on the DC extras (unlike the other 3 writers) made me even more curious. Not having much joy on Google either, although if you search edward collier writer you get a software developer in his 50s on the Guardian website.
The cynic in me begins to wonder if Edward Collier is a real person or another David Agnew ...
Can anyone provide any more info?
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Post by constonks on Oct 23, 2015 13:24:17 GMT
Hmmm maybe the release was a team effort and it was another Agnew after all...
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Post by jasonward on Oct 23, 2015 14:04:48 GMT
There is an Edward Collier that writes for The Guardian, basically as an opinion writer, which is a sort of half way house between factual reporting and fiction writing, but even so, it would seem odd to let an unknown quantity (in terms of Who fiction writing) write something for a flagship product.
Having said that, the use of pseudonyms for BF writers seems odd to me, my mind wonders what on earth it could be they need/want to hide.
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Post by Tony Jones on Oct 23, 2015 14:09:32 GMT
Nick Briggs used maybe 6 pseudonyms (even more) for AudioVisuals
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Post by constonks on Oct 23, 2015 16:52:23 GMT
Nick Briggs used maybe 6 pseudonyms (even more) for AudioVisuals He did reuse a couple of those with BF, I believe. |
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Oct 23, 2015 17:41:50 GMT
Nick Briggs used maybe 6 pseudonyms (even more) for AudioVisuals Why? What is the advantage of doing that, other than ticking off the receptive public, who are pretty much the same folks all the time.
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Post by Tony Jones on Oct 23, 2015 17:50:50 GMT
Nick Briggs used maybe 6 pseudonyms (even more) for AudioVisuals Why? What is the advantage of doing that, other than ticking off the receptive public, who are pretty much the same folks all the time.
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There were good reasons to do with making AudioVisuals not look like almost a one man band |
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Oct 23, 2015 18:13:54 GMT
Why? What is the advantage of doing that, other than ticking off the receptive public, who are pretty much the same folks all the time.
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There were good reasons to do with making AudioVisuals not look like almost a one man band But, Nick Briggs is a one man band, the man is brilliant, he could do 2 hour stories all by himself and you would think there were a whole cast of different characters, the only other person I knew that could do that was, Frank Mueller,
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Post by Tony Jones on Oct 23, 2015 18:38:57 GMT
And therein lies an important truth
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Post by Hieronymus on Oct 24, 2015 3:55:54 GMT
Using a pseudonym also gives hardcore fans something more to talk about, not to mention additional trivia for the unofficial guidebooks.
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Post by elgranto on Oct 24, 2015 7:20:59 GMT
While The Satanic Mill was not at all an awful story - I was personally underwhelmed by it - I get the feeling that the writer (if we presume there to be only one) may have wanted to distance his or herself from the work if he/she felt it was not up to a quality standard. Hence the pseudonym. An "Alan Smithee" in other words, to borrow from film directors.
Or it could be Nick Briggs just screwing with us.
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Post by mbt66 on Oct 24, 2015 13:13:47 GMT
On first listen I found The Satanic Mill to be the weakest o the four stories, but I suspect it to improve upon repeat listens. However it was far from a story that I would imagine a writer wanting to distance themselves from.
I imagine that the original writer was unable to complete it, so the script editor or another writer or possibly both had to get it done. And with it probably based on a story idea by David & Ken as well, Big Finish took the decision to make up an authors name.
If Big Finish had a new writer called Edward Collier we would have heard more about them. Plus writing the finale of the first box set of a new series for (presumably) Big Finish's most popular Doctor would not be a good way to tryout a new author!
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Post by elgranto on Oct 24, 2015 17:24:17 GMT
I imagine that the original writer was unable to complete it, so the script editor or another writer or possibly both had to get it done. And with it probably based on a story idea by David & Ken as well, Big Finish took the decision to make up an authors name. Ah, just like City of Death then. That's the best explanation I bet, more a "David Agnew" than an "Alan Smithee." |
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 24, 2015 20:53:54 GMT
If I had to guess I'd bet that Edward Collier was a pseudonym for Ken Bentley & David Richardson.
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Post by Tony Jones on Oct 24, 2015 20:54:29 GMT
David has always said he can't write
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Post by mark687 on Oct 24, 2015 21:00:58 GMT
David has always said he can't write But the overall concept for Doom Coalition is Matt Fittion's Ken Bently's AND David's, so it is possible.
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Post by omega on Oct 24, 2015 21:38:58 GMT
Ken Bentley has written stories for Counter-Measures under his own name, and David Richardson has given writers story briefs before. I can't see why they'd employ a psuedonym. Still, it'll be an interesting fact for whatever volume of the Big Finish Companion covers Doom Coalition. We're eagerly awaiting volume three Kenny!
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 24, 2015 22:27:56 GMT
I'm not saying I'm right but if Collier is indeed a psuedonym, and it feels like one to me, then it being Bentley & Richardson makes sense to me seeing as Bentley is not only the director but also the script editor for the series and Richardson the producer. I would like to have this little mystery answered.
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Post by dorney on Oct 24, 2015 23:54:59 GMT
David has always said he can't write But the overall concept for Doom Coalition is Matt Fittion's Ken Bently's AND David's, so it is possible.
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Just Ken and David, actually. |
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Post by omega on Oct 25, 2015 0:20:49 GMT
But the overall concept for Doom Coalition is Matt Fittion's Ken Bently's AND David's, so it is possible.
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Just Ken and David, actually. In the extras Ken talks about how the idea for the Eleven came up when he and David were walking together, and gave the brief for episode 1 to Matt Fitton. I'd say that Matt Fitton had more creative influence with the last two Dark Eyes box sets. Ken has written some great Counter-Measures stories, and since he's directed loads of Doctor Who, it'd be interesting to hear a script he does for that. Nick Briggs, Nigel Fairs and Barnaby Edwards, among others, have directed their own scripts, and Louise Jameson has had a hand at writing and directing (separately though). |
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