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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 21, 2019 10:02:52 GMT
The country would probably be more unified under the Monster Raving Loony Party
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 10:42:17 GMT
The country would probably be more unified under the Monster Raving Loony Party They'd probably be more consistent anyway!
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Sept 21, 2019 17:31:22 GMT
Thinking of joining lib dems
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Sept 21, 2019 17:32:13 GMT
Question.
My local mp is scum.
I want him out.
Any thoughts on how I do this?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 18:37:31 GMT
Question. My local my us scum. I want him out. Any thoughts on how I do this? What?
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Sept 21, 2019 19:26:52 GMT
Question. My local mp is scum. I want him out. Any thoughts on how I do this? option 1 - wait for for the next election, vote for a different candidate (if any of the others are any better), and hope enough other people do
option 2 - my constituency had a petitition to remove our mp (or at least call a by-election to do so). Of course, this was an unusual event and was after the mp had been sent to prison for lying. So you may need to get your mp convicted for something to do that. option 3 - join his political party, get to a position where you have enough influence and get him deselected - of course this may take time... option 4 - (removed as I do not condone assassination)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 20:30:44 GMT
Question. My local mp is scum. I want him out. Any thoughts on how I do this? The traditional route would be to stand against him with a manifesto. As an Independent, presuming from your prior post, that he is not a Lib Dem. Or you could join the local paper as a current affairs journalist. That's the way the system works. This could be the K9 spin-off we have been waiting for...
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Post by sherlock on Sept 21, 2019 21:36:17 GMT
Question. My local mp is scum. I want him out. Any thoughts on how I do this? Recall petitions are the only way to force by-elections between general elections, they are only instigated in certain circumstances however: ‘If they are convicted in the UK of an offence and sentenced or ordered to be imprisoned or detained and all appeals have been exhausted (and the sentence does not lead to automatic disqualification from being an MP); If they are suspended from the House following report and recommended sanction from the Committee on Standards for a specified period (at least 10 sitting days, or at least 14 days if sitting days are not specified).; If they are convicted of an offence under section 10 of the Parliamentary Standards Act 2009 (making false or misleading Parliamentary allowances claims)’ This was put in place by the Recall of MPs Act 2015, a Lib Dem proposal which was heavily watered down due to Coalition partnership. A general election does seem to happening sooner rather than later, so you may get a chance to just plain old vote them out assuming your seat isn’t a safe one.
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Post by number13 on Sept 22, 2019 1:03:55 GMT
The country would probably be more unified under the Monster Raving Loony Party I've mentioned this before but in the current climate it's more important than ever: I believe they are actually called the Official Monster Raving Loony Party.
It's vital we all remember this to distinguish them from all the unofficial loony parties you can see on the news. If I vote Loony, I want to be sure I'm voting for the real thing, not one of the tribute acts...
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Post by sherlock on Sept 24, 2019 9:46:29 GMT
Ooh now this will set the cat among the pigeons
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Post by doctorkernow on Sept 24, 2019 9:56:46 GMT
Hello again.
And that is what the judiciary is for. To maintain the balance of powers. To reign in the executive when they are misusing their authority. In this case to protect Parliament and its right to scrutinise the executive and make law. UK Constitution 1 Mr. Johnson 0.
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Post by muckypup on Sept 24, 2019 10:08:16 GMT
Oh my.......more mess......
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Post by mark687 on Sept 24, 2019 10:15:39 GMT
So the situation is wrong/ unlawful but the progress of creating the situation wasn't but the longer MPs stay out the Commons the more they're in Contempt of Court right?
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Post by doctorkernow on Sept 24, 2019 10:26:23 GMT
Hello again.
As Lady Hale said, it is now totally up to the parliamentary authorities to decide what their response will be. There is a traditional prorogation during party conference season. I suspect Parliament will sit as soon as these are over.
Although as Brexit is still only just over five weeks away they may well return sooner.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 24, 2019 10:36:48 GMT
Hello again. As Lady Hale said, it is now totally up to the parliamentary authorities to decide what their response will be. There is a traditional prorogation during party conference season. I suspect Parliament will sit as soon as these are over. Although as Brexit is still only just over five weeks away they may well return sooner. So once again Boris and Die Hard Leave ERG get away their stratagem of block and frustrate the all hallowed "Parliamentary Sovereignty" with only "you've been very naughty boys run along"rebuke.
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mark687
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Post by sherlock on Sept 24, 2019 10:42:42 GMT
Well there’s an analogy...
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Post by Digi on Sept 24, 2019 10:46:34 GMT
So the situation is wrong/ unlawful but the progress of creating the situation wasn't but the longer MPs stay out the Commons the more they're in Contempt of Court right? Regards mark687 Depends on the reason for their absence, I suppose. If they're voluntarily not attending, I expect that would be treated no differently than an MP not showing up to parliament on any regular day because they had a previous event scheduled. If they're being kept out, that may be a different story.
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Post by number13 on Sept 24, 2019 11:08:32 GMT
So the situation is wrong/ unlawful but the progress of creating the situation wasn't but the longer MPs stay out the Commons the more they're in Contempt of Court right? Regards mark687 Depends on the reason for their absence, I suppose. If they're voluntarily not attending, I expect that would be treated no differently than an MP not showing up to parliament on any regular day because they had a previous event scheduled. If they're being kept out, that may be a different story. They would normally still be on recess this week and next week for the conferences so the Commons wouldn't sit anyway, but a recess doesn't 'stop' the work of MPs in other ways that prorogation does (I think?)
I suppose in theory there could be an attempt to recall them during the Conservative conference next week but if there would be any way to make the situation more divisive and party political than it already is, frankly I can't think of one. So, return a week earlier than intended, on Oct 7th then?
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Post by lidar2 on Sept 24, 2019 11:16:37 GMT
Depends on the reason for their absence, I suppose. If they're voluntarily not attending, I expect that would be treated no differently than an MP not showing up to parliament on any regular day because they had a previous event scheduled. If they're being kept out, that may be a different story. They would normally still be on recess this week and next week for the conferences so the Commons wouldn't sit anyway, but a recess doesn't 'stop' the work of MPs in other ways that prorogation does (I think?)
I suppose in theory there could be an attempt to recall them during the Conservative conference next week but if there would be any way to make the situation more divisive and party political than it already is, frankly I can't think of one. So, return a week earlier than intended, on Oct 7th then? Before the prorogation plan became public knowledge there was talk amongst the commentariat that MPs would vote not to recess during party conferences, but to continue sitting.
After today, I can't see MPs winning an historic victory in the Supreme Court to let them get back to Parliament, only to then immediately vote themselves a recess to go off for another couple of weeks - they would make themselves look totally ridiculous and give up the moral high ground then now occupy.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 24, 2019 11:16:44 GMT
Depends on the reason for their absence, I suppose. If they're voluntarily not attending, I expect that would be treated no differently than an MP not showing up to parliament on any regular day because they had a previous event scheduled. If they're being kept out, that may be a different story. They would normally still be on recess this week and next week for the conferences so the Commons wouldn't sit anyway, but a recess doesn't 'stop' the work of MPs in other ways that prorogation does (I think?)
I suppose in theory there could be an attempt to recall them during the Conservative conference next week but if there would be any way to make the situation more divisive and party political than it already is, frankly I can't think of one. So, return a week earlier than intended, on Oct 7th then? The difference between recess and prorogation is quite simple-recess stops the Commons sitting, it does not stop the activities of the Lords or Select Committees; prorogation stops everything. Conference recess is begun with a recess motion that the Commons passes (normally a formality)-this time no such motion has been passed, due to the prorogation. Therefore there is no conference recess atm, therefore Parliament can reconvene tomorrow and the Speaker has just stated that Parliament will do so. What Parliament will do now it has been reconvened, who knows.
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