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Post by Zagreus on Nov 5, 2015 18:54:16 GMT
So I've finally sitting down with all the Dark Shadows audios I ordered during the Bloodlust fervor and amn doing a chronological listen-through. I've been posting over on GallifreyBase, but thought I'd copy my posts over here for the fine folks off Collinsport My listening order is roughly thus: The Rise and Fall of the House of Trask- 1796 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 10 - Final Judgement
- 1796 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 20 - The Lost Girl
- 1855 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 28 - Speak No Evil
- 1857 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 39 - Curtain Call
- 1874 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 24 - Dress Me In Dark Dreams
- 1896 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 14 - The Doll House
- 1897 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 07 - The Wicked And The Dead
- 1897 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 18 - The Carrion Queen
- 1899 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 05 - The Skin Walkers
- 1920 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 15 - The Blind Painter
- 1929 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 11 - Blood Dance
- 1932 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 32 - A Collinwood Christmas
- 1941 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 13 - London's Burning
- 1941 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 17 - The Creeping Fog
- 1941 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 19 - The Poisoned Soul
- 1941 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 26 - The Fall Of The House of Trask
Meanwhile, During the Show...- 1945 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 27 - Operation Victor
- 1950 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 25 - The Eternal Actress
- 1967 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 03 - Clothes Of Sand
- 1968 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 08 - Echoes Of Insanity
- 1968 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 44 - The Darkest Shadow
- 1969 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 31 - The Haunted Refrain
Collinsport 1973- 1971 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 04 - The Ghost Watcher
- 1972 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 09 - Curse Of The Pharoah
- 1972 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 16 - The Death Mask
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 21 - The Crimson Pearl
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 22 - The Voodoo Amulet
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 23 - The House By The Sea
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 29 - The Last Stop
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 30 - Dreaming Of The Water
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 33 - The Phantom Bride
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 34 - Beneath The Veil
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 35 - The Enemy Within
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 36 - The Lucifer Gambit
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 37 - The Flip Side
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 38 - Beyond The Grave
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 40 - The Harvest Of Souls
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 41 - The Happier Dead
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 42 - Carriage Of The Damned
- 1973 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 43 - The Devil Cat
- Dark Shadows Audiobook 12 - The Night Whispers
Collinsport 1983- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.1 - The House Of Despair Part One
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.1 - The House Of Despair Part Two
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.1 - The House Of Despair Part Three
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.2 - The Book Of Temptation Part One
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.2 - The Book Of Temptation Part Two
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.2 - The Book Of Temptation Part Three
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.3 - The Christmas Presence Part One
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.3 - The Christmas Presence Part Two
- 1982 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.3 - The Christmas Presence Part Three
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.4 - The Rage Beneath Part One
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.4 - The Rage Beneath Part Two
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 1.4 - The Rage Beneath Part Three
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 2.1 - Kingdom Of The Dead Part 1
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 2.2 - Kingdom Of The Dead Part 2
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 2.3 - Kingdom Of The Dead Part 3
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 2.4 - Kingdom Of The Dead Part 4
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.0 - Snowflake
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.1 - Bloodlust Episode 1
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.2 - Bloodlust Episode 2
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.3 - Bloodlust Episode 3
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.4 - Bloodlust Episode 4
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.5 - Bloodlust Episode 5
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.6 - Bloodlust Episode 6
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.7 - Bloodlust Episode 7
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.8 - Bloodlust Episode 8
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.9 - Bloodlust Episode 9
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.10 - Bloodlust Episode 10
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.11 - Bloodlust Episode 11
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.12 - Bloodlust Episode 12
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Full-Cast Drama 3.13 - Bloodlust Episode 13
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 45 - Panic
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 46 - The Curse of Shurafa
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 47 - In the Twinkling of an Eye
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 48 - Deliver Us From Evil
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 49 - Tainted Love
- 1983 - Dark Shadows Audiobook 50 - ...And Red All Over
I know I'm fudging a bit, putting Night Whispers up there after the 1973 run, but my understanding (I've never actually heard it) is that the dates involved aren't actually mentioned within the play, and from the summary I've read it sounds like a nice bridge between the 1970s time period and the full-cast 1980s stuff. Now, stuff I've posted over there: And I believe that brings us up to date! I'll be posting more as I continue to work my way through the list!
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 5, 2015 23:51:39 GMT
A finale indeed! The Fall of the House of Trask sure had its fingers everywhere. I counted references and follow-ups to The Lost Girls, London's Burning (that rat! He should have kept digging ), The Wicked and the Dead, The Carrion Queen, The Poison Soul, and we get a brief update on how dear Jamison is doing (bedridden?? Oh No! ) and news that Roger and Elizabeth are doing well. This one was just all over the place! It really is the culmination of the last sixteen plays. And so many people don't last until the end... A lot of death here, and one birth! And hey, having listened to the 1973 plays before, I know who that is! I also caought the reference to Helvetica Stanhope . Also, I hadn't realized that it was, once again, Count Petofi who cursed Charity with Pansy's presence. Guy gets around, doesn't he? Timeline-wise, should The Creeping Fog have been placed after this? When I checked the timeline thread over on Divergent Universe, it had the four 1941 plays listed in release order, but it seems that it should really have been The Poison Soul, London's Burning, The Fall of the House of Trask, and then The Creeping Fog. Though, as far as the listen through goes, it was probably better to hear them in release order, just for narrative structure... Now, onwards to the other end of the war, with Operation Victor in 1945! Can I just say, I love the cover on this one? It's so great. Love the cheeky little Raiders of the Lost Arc references. Always lovely to hear Terry Molloy playing someone other than Davros. Various references to past Quentin audios from The Skinwalkers to Blood Dance to London's Burning and The Creeping Fog, plus some unseen adventures. Am I right in assuming that the mentioned Diabolos is the given name of The Dark Lord who has been popping up semi-regularly throughout the last sixteen plays? Pretty straightforward WWII Evil Nazi Scientist story. Good fun. Now, we jump ahead another half-decade to 1950 and The Eternal Actress, which I had heard before. But, as it was probably the fourth or so Dark Shadows audio I'd heard after a few of the Quentin tales, I really had very little idea of who anybody was or what the significance of events were. So hey, looking forward to enjoying these through new eyes as I begin to move in to familiar territory. I've noted that, back in The Blind Painter, Mr Tate mentioned Amanda, and in London's Burning Quentin mentioned he'd come to Europe to look for her. Still not sure who Mr Best is, but it's clear he's someone rather powerful. Another in a long list of powerful movers and shakers from behind the scenes in the world of Dark Shadows. Still a very nice two-hander on the second run through. And, now, finally, Clothes of Sand. Set in 1967, during the original show's run, we finally meet Miss Maggie Evans. I've been looking forward to this one. Lots of voices inside peoples heads in this series. Barnabas was a rather nasty screw in the beginning, wasn't he? At what point did he turn into the more noble figure seen in later audios? This play paints a rather horrific picture of a unsettling, exotic, monster, cloaked in the mask of an erudite gentleman. He and Quentin and Angelique have just sort of been stalking around in the shadows through the last hundred or fifty years or so, haven't they? Oh hey Dr Woodard, we saw his father briefly in Fall of the House of Trask, didn't we? Hmm. Windcliff. We'll be revisiting its worrisome halls many times throughout our journey. Tell me, did anyone in Collinsport have a happy childhood? One free of supernatural interference? It seems even Roger and Elizabeth had encounters with the unknown as small children, and now so to it appears that dear Maggie is no different. It's sad watching Sam Evans' slow descent into dishevelment. One of my favorite characters in the show. I can just imagine the actor reading out the lines. What is it with Josette and attracting the attention of horrifying creatures of the night? And what is it about them that makes them want to turn Maggie into Josette? A nice, powerful play. I think I could listen to Kathryn Leigh Scott narrate to the sound of gentle piano music for days on end.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 7, 2015 0:15:16 GMT
Echoes of Insanity, set the year after, has Willie now in Windcliff, and Hoffman is now a bad guy? She appears to be hypnotizing him to protect Barnabas. I appear to have missed something. I assume this is explained in the show proper. Some nice exposition on Willie's past as a "merchant marine", aka con-man, and his partner Jason. I hadn't known about Liz's Husband, so that was a bit of a surprise. I love them trying to summarize and explain soap-opera storylines in such a way that don't sound absurd haha! And suddenly, the play gets supernatural. The first half or so is fairly soapy, with strange elements easily written off as drug-induced. So I understand Julia wanting to cure Barnabas, but why is she covering for him? But then, Barnabas' vampire curse is revealed, and Angelique stops playing nice. I take it this is around the time Angelique first showed up in the Original Series? A wonderful turn by Karlan and Parker.
Meanwhile, in Hollywood... Quentin and Amanda meet up. The Darkest Shadow was the first Dark Shadows audio I ordered a physical copy of, since it has Dorian in it, and I've vowed to support Big Finish's Dorian as much as possible. I ordered a download of The Eternal Actress in prep, as it came recommended, though I was told it was needed (something which, in hindsight, I'm not sure is true, as it's very much a follow-up to The Eternal Actress). This one's delightfully fun, and on second listen after much more exposure to the series, I find it's still more or less a standalone, connections to The Eternal Actress notwithstanding. More Petofi poking his fingers in things. More of this "Mr Best" character. It's an interesting conceit to have all of Tate's sketches and paintings come to life in some manner. I wonder how many more of them there are roaming around... It's frustrating how close they are at getting together near the end of this one, only for Quentin to get locked away. Which brings us nicely to...
...1969, and The Haunted Refrain. What a delightfully creepy yarn. I can't help but feel sorry for Barbara. She's clearly a strong woman, who's just ended up in a restrictive environment where she can't thrive. And unlucky her, she's stumbled across Quentin Collins as an outlet. This is largely the story of her struggling with her being unhappy in her marriage and trying to figure out what happened to Quentin, while we, the listeners, already know his story. There's not actually a whole lot going on, but it gets more and more intense as we go. It's rather horrifying how it ends. Much like Speak No Evil, we're left with dead trapped persons and the lead running off to Collinwood, leaving the other to their fate. Poor, poor Barbara. Poor, poor Grant. Though, to be fair, he was a bit of a prick. There are worse fates than death. He probably got the better end of the stick on this one.
And that's it. That's the last of the audios set during one of the many time periods explored within the show. Starting with The Ghost Watcher, we'll be delving into territory beyond the initial broadcast. I kind of wish they'd do more stories set during the original run. The Sandman and Echoes of Insanity did a good job of filling in what events were happening up at Collinwood while our narrators were elsewhere, but a quick look at the wiki tells me those only covered around a hundred episodes, if we're being generous. While the happenings of Barnabas and Quentin's times were explored in other audios, bringing us nicely up to speed with various time periods and long-lived characters.
It would be nice to maybe have an audio where Burke's life flashes before his eyes as the plane goes down, giving us a summary of the pre-Barnabas era from his point of view, or some side-stories that fill listeners in on Adam & Eve, or the happenings of the Leviathan storyline. Or heck, something that lets us know how what happened after Quentin made his way back to Collinwood after The Haunted Refrain. Stuff to fill in listeners who don't have access to and haven't seen the Original Series, basically. I sat down to watch a few episodes the other day (I'm wrapping up Laura and gearing up for Barnabas) and the majority of the episode I was watching was just Burke, Victoria, and Roger sitting around and talking to each other, and it struck me, as I've been going through the audios recently, that these characters are sorely missed. We've got one of them back now, so time for the rest, I hope.
Maybe I'm just spoiled by having the narrated soundtracks and audiobook adaptions over on the Doctor Who side of things. I much prefer the audio medium these days, as I can listen to those while I go about my work, not having to focus on a video component to the story. Ah well. I'll make it through the Original Series eventually. In the mean time, onwards and upwards! Next comes The Ghost Watchers, as we begin our post-show journey.
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Post by david on Nov 7, 2015 0:45:54 GMT
Echoes of Insanity, set the year after, has Willie now in Windcliff, and Hoffman is now a bad guy? She appears to be hypnotizing him to protect Barnabas. I appear to have missed something. I assume this is explained in the show proper. It is. Without anything really spoilery - because you know she changes - she's actually a "bad guy" from the start when she comes in, it's being "good" thats the change. I say it in inverted commas because she's more amoral than evil. She's on board for killing people to protect Barnabas' vampiric secret. She's guilty of conspiracy to murder for one of her acts at least. She also hypnotises the likes of Vicki and Maggie to hide her tracks. She kinda gets in over her head and does show remorse for the things she has to do but yeah - she was a bad old bird at the start. She pretty much parallels Barnabas in timescale - when he stops being the "monster" and becomes more the tragic anti-hero, Julia becomes more sympathetic too. Plus...she's alays good for a wondrfully OTT reaction shot at the end of an ep Mouth agog, massively mascaraed eyes blazing!
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Post by omega on Nov 7, 2015 2:41:46 GMT
Meanwhile, in Hollywood... Quentin and Amanda meet up. The Darkest Shadow was the first Dark Shadows audio I ordered a physical copy of, since it has Dorian in it, and I've vowed to support Big Finish's Dorian as much as possible. I ordered a download of The Eternal Actress in prep, as it came recommended, though I was told it was needed (something which, in hindsight, I'm not sure is true, as it's very much a follow-up to The Eternal Actress). This one's delightfully fun, and on second listen after much more exposure to the series, I find it's still more or less a standalone, connections to The Eternal Actress notwithstanding. More Petofi poking his fingers in things. More of this "Mr Best" character. It's an interesting conceit to have all of Tate's sketches and paintings come to life in some manner. I wonder how many more of them there are roaming around... It's frustrating how close they are at getting together near the end of this one, only for Quentin to get locked away. Which brings us nicely to... Plus there's a D Curtis involved with The Darkest Shadow, no doubt a reference to Dan Curtis. Elspeth Gardner returns in Carriage of the Damned, part of the 1973 arc. That was released shortly before The Darkest Shadow.
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Post by omega on Nov 7, 2015 2:48:41 GMT
Srandom, what's your favorite story, story arc and character so far? It'd be interesting to hear how your choices change as you get through 1973 and 1983.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 7, 2015 17:38:22 GMT
Favorites... Hmm... Now, I got into Dark Shadows off of someone recommending the Quentin Audios when I asked for more listening material on the old boards' Dorian section, so those were largely what I was exposed to at first before getting into the show proper. I then listened to the Full-Cast stuff, some of the 1973 things (mainly the Beyond the Grave 'season'), and the full-casts. So you'd think, as I go through this chronological listen-through, that I'd be drawn to the Quentin stuff, yeah? But no, I find myself drawn to that magnificent bastard Reverend Gregory Trask. He's a right old bastard, but I love him so. It makes me want to hear Vengeance at Collinwood even more, just to have him interacting with the 2004 cast, in "modern" times. Old coot just doesn't know when to quit, does he? As far as story arcs go, the little "Dark Lord Manipulates ALL the things" arc comprising AB07 - The Wicked And The Dead AB10 - Final Judgement AB18 - The Carrion Queen AB19 - The Poisoned Soul AB20 - The Lost Girl AB26 - The Fall Of The House of Trask has been most rewarding, and I think it would have been interesting to listen to those as they were released, as I see Wicked and The Dead released in January of 2009, and The Fall of the House of Trask wasn't out until June of 2012! Listening to it chronologically though has also been great. It's been nice to see the connections and little links build up over the course of the listen-through, such that, by the time I hit Fall in the queue, it seemed to be referencing and making shoutouts to plays that came out after it, as well as many of those that came before. A testament to the writing, surely. It was also nice how, a few stories later, The Darkest Shadow culminated all the Quentin/Amanda/Tate stuff that had been building in tandem with The Fall, occasionally intermingling, such that the whole of the pre-1970s stuff really does feel like one big interconnected things rather than a large bundle of standalones like it could have. I really am impressed. As for favorite single story... I'm going ot have to go with A Collinwood Christmas. Ivanka is such a fun character, and I loved all the little easter eggs and references for those that had been following along. Plus, it's one of the few that actually takes place at Collinwood, and involves the Collinses! Barnabas has kind of been on the periphery, Angelique's been in hell, Quentin's been everywhere else, and the major story arc has been following The Dark Lord's manipulations of the Trasks, Fayes, Angelique and Josette! So Collinwood Christmas, which not only took place in Collinwood, but involved young ROger & Elizabeth and their father, was a nice change of pace Actually, looking at the 'seasons' of dramatic readings (such a better term that audiobook for what these are), the season finales do seem to have more oomph and effort put into them. Starting with the third set, 15 through 20, you can see the plot arc coming together, and then the following set concludes in The Fall of the House of Trask. Each season of dramatic readings following concludes in a bit of a blockbuster; A Collinwood Christmas, Beyond The Grave, The Darkest Shadow, and now And Red All Over, which is, admittedly, a two-hander, but you can hardly claim it's not a big deal Either way, starting in 2011 the dramatic readings seasons definitely had more of a shape and a purpose pervading them. The early releases have more of a "and here's who we could get in!" feel, and go out of their way to flesh out show storylines, while the post Kingdom of the Dead releases spend more time telling new stories than relating what was going on in the show. Going forward, the 1970s comprises 18 or so audios in release order that, depending on their running time, comprise about two or three television episodes' worth of material each. So we'll be getting, by averages, around 45 episodes worth (give or take) of good old supernatural soap opera.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 10, 2015 0:31:19 GMT
Ah, The Ghost Watcher. From the point of view of someone who's just seen Barnabas pop up on the scene in the still-black-and-white show, the news that David's been sent off to boarding school isn't a large surprise, little terror that he is, but Maggie being his governess and no mention of Victoria was a little confusing first time round. In fact, there's been little to mention of Victoria Winters at all over the last few plays set during the original run, and not much mention now. One would be forgiven for going from the audios to the show and wondering who this woman is who's doing Maggie's job of being the main female lead. Nathan's lilting accent doesn't quite fit in with the american cast. I'm curious how that goes from the point of view off a European listener, who may not be as accustomed to various american accents. I still don't have a solid mental image of Frid as Barnabas, so the scenes with him have Andrew Collins standing there in my head. The play begins with Nathan arriving on the train, the traditional opening to any Dark Shadows series; new person on the train. The play threatens to give us a new co-main character who's already well acquainted with the supernatural, though twas not meant to be. There's some beautifully haunting scenes in this one, very poignant, very powerful. It bothers me how everyone just blames Maggie in this. Makes everyone out to be kind of petty jerks. The bit with The Widow was a nice bit of world-building on the show's rich mythology. It's interesting to get the story from the town's perspective, with the Collinwood residents coming down and interacting occasionally with the townfolk, instead of the other way around, the plot focusing on the family in the house with the town occasionally interacting with them.
The Ghost Watcher works surprisingly well as a fresh start for this new series of the continuing Dark Shadows, post show. Stranger arrives on the train, meets Maggie Evans in the inn, serving coffee. We learn of the mysterious Collins family, and meet a couple of them, among them noble Barnabas, possibly a vampire. Carolyn is kind-hearted but tired of her family being blamed for everything. Roger's a bit of an arrogant so and so, and Elizabeth is the proud matron of the house. The townsfolk all know that supernatural stuff haunts the town, but like to keep their heads in the sand, for the sake of life being simpler. The sheriff has a habit of bringing in Willie for questioning when things go wrong, as the town scapegoat, and is good at downplaying the supernatural happenings of the town while "carrying out investigations". Maggie is formerly of the Collins' employ as a governess, but has been released from her services after some sort of incident that caused her a (second) visit to nearby Windcliff Sanatorium. And I think with that is most of the regulars, more to be introduced as the series progresses. We are, over the course of the hour or so, given a brief tour of the town; told the importance and legend of Widow's Hill, warned away from the supernatural hotspot that is Collinwood, shown the Inn, the store, the station, and The Blue Whale. And all through the eyes of a new person to town being guided around by Miss Evans, who knows everyone, Collinses included. And, importantly, the new face takes the supernatural as a matter of course, so we, their audio companion in their exploration of the town, also, of course, take it as writ, and don't really question it when ghosts start popping up. Yeah, it's a really good first story for a new run, encompassing the show in microcosm within the scope of a single yarn.
Getting into 1973 proper, we come across The Curse of the Pharaoh. As someone who wrote a few essays on H P Lovecraft in school and has extensively read the body of work, and that of his cohort, the blatant use of Nephren-Ka surprised me a bit. It's my understanding that Dark Shadows pastiched, not borrowed outright. Names changed, elements worked to suit the show, not absorbed in their original form. That aside, it's nice being back in Collinwood. Carolyn and Liz, goings on at the house, Stokes, Barnabas, and Julia perpetually "away in Egypt", this is more familiar territory. This moves a bit slower than the prior drama, the pace more sedate. Why is a a Naga, an Indian mythologism, on an Egyptian artifact? Apparently there was some Lovecratian plotlines going on later in the show? Talk of serpents and leviathans... Oh hey look it's Nyarlathotep. It's kind of weird hearing these explicit Mythos references in this Dark Shadows story. Cousin Quentin is away more often than not these days, and David is off at boarding school. Time travel and seances and possession, oh my! More tour around the town, but also an exploration of some of the stuff the Collins family has been caught up in over the years, in this case dealings with otherworldly beings of Lovecraftian nature. I'm sure there's a multitude of references that are flying right over my head. A slow and sedate audio, but the coverage of territory with which I am perhaps overly familiar made my mind wander a bit while making my way through it.
Meanwhile, elsewhere, The Death Mask. Hey it's Jerry Lacey and Lara Parker! Haha good stuff! It's weird listening to him not be a right bastard heheh. I take it that Cassandra is just Angelique using a different name? Ah, yes, I see this is the case. Wait, Angelique was a couple with Roger? When did that happen?? Angelique seems to have a thing for tormenting and enthralling the Trask family. This is an interesting side-step from the happenings at Collinsport. The duo of Cassandra and Tony is great. I'm glad to see that I have many more outings with these two in store. Good to see some flashback/summary to introduce new listeners to who these people are and how they relate to each other. Didn't know Tony was seeing Carolyn for a while. And now for a good old fashioned murder mystery! With a supernatural twist, I'm sure. I adore Cassandra teasing Tony. This is great. I love it. You can tell she's delighted to have some fun for a change, and you can tell that underneath all that gruff and bluster he's got a soft spot for her. I rather saw the "twist" coming, but that in no way detracted from my enjoyment of the whole affair.
These three plays seem to set up the basic outline of things to come. Intrigue down in the town, with the Collinses occasionally poking in from their fortress on the hill. Intrigue with said family from the hill, the Collinses wrapped up in some supernatural guff, with occasional interaction with the town below. And Tony & Cassandra off Scooby-Dooing it up, having supernatural adventures around the world. Looking at the run of 1970s audios, they seem fairly evenly divided amongst these three templates. Seems a good start to our new journeys through the world of Dark Shadows.
Next up, it's... oh! It's that damn pearl again! Yes we're back to The Crimson Pearl. The first Dark Shadows I ever experienced, I had no idea what was going on. Now though, the fourth or so time through, I have a much better grasp of who everyone is and what's what. I already more or less covered the audio, up to a point, in a previous post, so I'll just go over the part that I hadn't yet spoken about. Which brings us to the realm of Parallel Time. I haven't encountered this in the show yet, but, much like the Stairway Through Time or the I Ching, I understand that these are all devices used within the narrative to get us into new settings and new situations. It's interesting seeing familiar characters in completely different setups. I guess technically this part of The Crimson Pearl is set during the show's run, in this parallel time's 1970 or 71. I suppose the existence of such parallel timelines allows for the various films and alternate takes on the television show to take place all within the same cosmology. This parallel world seems a bit less supernatural and a bit more soap opera than the usual one. Sordid marriages, long lost twins that show up right as the other one passes, etc. Oh hey and now we're following up the events of The Curse of the Pharaoh! Nice! Never really got that before. Does the Blue Whale only have the one music track? Or has the jukebox just been paid years in advance and just put on perpetual repeat? I wonder if that barman is a Cunningham. I wonder if that pearl is going to to wash up on shore at some point. The Leviathans do seem to like to pop up fairly frequently, from the looks of things.
Anyway, I think that's all for today. We'll be joining Tony and Cassandra in New Orleans fighting off zombies and party goers in The Voodoo Amulet when next we meet.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 11, 2015 0:50:16 GMT
The Voodoo Amulet. I don't know why, but New Orleans accents always sound fake to me. I've never been myself, so the ones in this could be downplayed for all I know. Tony's the best. Cassandra kind of falls apart for a good portion of this. I get that it's kind of part of the point of this, that she's out of her depth without her powers, but she comes off as just completely helpless. Like she has nothing but her witch stuff going for her. She rallies a bit about halfway through due to Tony's influence, but she came off really badly characterized up until then. Interesting hearing about some of Angelique's non-Collins relationships. I really like the sound designs in these. Noir-ish without being overly so. While this one was fun, there was little substance, in my opinion. Outside of the "oh Cassandra is helpless, oh now she's better" sub-plot, there wasn't a whole lot going on beyond Tony and Cassandra being lead around the nose by various players before the cackling villain reveals their plans and our heroes save the day. Nice seen as the end when Cassandra gets her powers back. Hell hath no fury, etc, etc... And we get a nice kiss, to boot! Fun, but less filling than the pair's previous outing. Perhaps I've been spoiled by the Faction Paradox series, which does hoodoo and loa with more finesse and intricacy than this does. Still looking forward to more with this pairing. They do make a lovely couple Next up, ever infamous, The House By The Sea. Read/Performed/Embodied by the inestimable Collin Baker. One know, it took me several tries to get through this the first time. But everyone kept recommending it and praising it and I powered through. Sitting down with it again, now, I'm taking some time to appreciate the format. The played-back tapes allows us to jump cut and hop around fairly easily, and explains Mr Conway's somewhat lyrical recounting of the happenings, as he records his thoughts and experiences for his psychiatrist. Again, the sound design is most excellent. Collin Baker does an excellent job of conveying Gerald's thoughts on his sessions with the head doctor via his rather sarcastic recountings. The circumstances of my own divorce make that particular scene hit a little close to home. The sound of perpetual rain in the background is quite soothing. At the same time they do a good job realistic creeks and groans of a spooky old house. I must confess I have no idea who Danielle Rogét is, or whether she's a character from the show or not. Her apparent fascination with teeth is... intriguing. I can stand most things, but stuff to do with teeth kind of horrifies me, so this particular element does a rather splendid job of unsettling me. I am coming to know Julia Hoffman by degrees and ounces through her appearances in these other plays. While the slow build deterred me on first blush, I'm glad I eventually powered through, because this really is a remarkable play. A right proper ghost story. It really is a bit of a dry run for Beyond the Grave, isn't it? But seriously, those teeth are creeping me out. And just who in the hell is this Nicholas Blair? Ah! And now back to Tony & Cassandra! I notice there's a bit of every-other going on here. One story in Collinsport, one story abroad with our favorite couple. A fine arrangement, though the tonal shift is a bit jarring at times. This one's interesting. We begin in the middle of a kerfuffle, Tony and Cassandra bickering, but then we cut to a flashback story that takes up the bulk of the runtime. There's something about being trapped on a train. The recent Doctor Who release The End of the Line has a similar setting and is similarly mysterious and disturbing. I love a good ghostly train story. The Confessions of Dorian Gray's episode Echoes also goes with the "alone on the last (haunted) train" setting. It's a well that gets dipped in, but it's effective. A chat with the devil on a haunted train. Good stuff. The Dark Lord sure shows up a lot in these, doesn't he? Does he have as much of a presence in the show proper? Not a whole lot of Cassandra in this one though. Still, I'm mainly here for the Trask man, anyway, so it's all good. As a passing note, I realize that, unlike the pre-1970's audios, these Tony and Cassandra audios actually have happy endings, of sorts. Windcliff, our home away from home. We've been here so many times before. I recall Maggie mentioning in The Ghost Watcher that her friend Sebastian Shaw had been the one to check her in to Windcliff on her second stay, and had ended up there himself, as if he couldn't stand to leave her. That comment, perhaps, should have been paid more attention to. Blonde Maggie. Interesting. How often during the show did actors play multiple parts during the same time period? I know that they played multiple roles across the 1700s, 1800s, and 1960s, but this may be a bit new... Am I correct in recalling that Shaw was in Return to Collinwood? Had no idea who he was in that one either. There's an old story, about a man who vows to "swim home" by hopping fences and doing a lap through all of his contiguous neighbors' pools. As he goes, he experiences a strange distorted time travelish dream fever thing. It's gradually revealed that he's got mental issues, but it remains unclear if any of it is real and if his friends were just playing along. It's called 'The Swimmer', and this drammatic reading very much reminds me of it, only with more overt supernatural aspects. We get more summing up of show storylines in this one, much like the previous two Windcliff stories with Maggie and Willie. Seems to be a common convention within the audio series, having Windcliff inmates talk about what's happened to them, while something else happens to them. I feel quite sad for poor Doctor Laurie Norris. And a bit unnerved by the disturbing individual known as Sebastian Shaw, the psychic murder hippie. Aaaaaaand here they are again, the magnificent Tony Peterson, and his wife, Cassandra! Wait, what? The Phantom Bride is the first release in the sixth set of dramatic readings, all six of which formed a bit of a coherent season, in a turn from the usual fair of an installment or two of any of the various developed plotlines ongoing in the dramatic readings. But the plots had, for the most part, been wrapped up, aside form the ongoing 1973 opera. So we begin the season by visiting out favorite couple, who are apparently much more comfortable with exchanging passionate kisses, even if it's just for show. I know I commented above about my lack of knowledge of New Orleans accents, but I was married to a Texan, so I know for a fact that the Southern in this one is rather overblown. I know they're only pretending as a cover story, but they really do the playful bickering of a long-term couple rather well. Tony knows it too, it seems, and it's a bit disappointing that Angelique turns him down, albeit softly. For reference, the flashback events with the bride and the mistress are going on around the same time Blood Dance is going on back in Chicago, in the very club that the groom to be apparently spent an enticing night with his soon to be sister-in-law. Ah the Covington sisters. I believe it's The Lucifer Gambit that reveals that the Covingtons are an off-shoot of the Cunninghams. These flashbacks being in 1929, that would put them about a generation above John Cunningham from The Creeping fog, which would make them cousins of John's parents? Oh, was Angelique the one in the basement mentioned in House by the Sea? Poor Tom... we'll be seeing more of his family in the next few releases. Leona seems rather well-informed. Is it ever revealed how? I quite liked this one. Was nice seeing the two of them become closer. Was nice to get some callbacks to Blood Dance. And I truly love the "next time on Dark Shadows" at the end. Makes it really feel like a big coherent serial. Beneath The Veil. Oh oh oh Beneath The Veil. Following up both Dreaming of the Water and The House By The Sea, this is the beginning of the season proper. Familiar faces from other audios. These have really ramped up the cast lists. We've gone from two or three to fifteen (or so the wiki tells me). Oh hey Ed caught a prize lobster! This begins with the end of Dreaming, which is a "several months" after Maggie was released. Since this is set in 1973, that means that The Ghost Watcher must have been the November of the prior year, placing in 1972. Shoutouts to many of the prior 1970s audios abound in just the first fifteen minutes. Maggie is as delightful as ever. Oh, it appears that the ending of House by the Sea takes place in between Brett's appearances at the store and the bar. Everything in tight continuity. I wonder how things would go if someone were to re-edit everything chronologically as it happened, in twenty-five minute intervals. Might be worth sitting down with a mixer if I've got the spare time. Hey it's Amy! Woo! Twenty minutes in and the cast is larger than several of the last plays put together. Where I am in the show right now, they're still doing the "five cast members per episode, including Vicki reading the opening" thing, so this is quite nice. We do seem to be filling half the new cast with Brits, though. This one has so many links to the "in Collinsport" 1970s audios that came before that it's a wonder it manages to have such a robust story of its own in there as well. And none of the links feel intrusive. Brett commenting that it took Mr Conway a while to answer the door. Mentioning other recent deaths like Dr Warrick. Mrs Haggerty. Ed with his lobsters. They've done a really good job of making this feel like a continuing serial with interweaving sub-plots. The first time I listened to this, I had no idea I'd come to like Amy so much. Alfie and 'Emma' make a lovely couple, in a twisted sort of way. Despite the many many connections to the plays that came before, this one does a rather good job of being a jumping on point for the season, like The Ghost Watcher before it. Yes, it follows The Phantom Bride, but that took place abroad, and barely even mentioned Collinsport. This one begins with a young couple riding in to town, not on the train, but in their own beat up jelopie, and learning about Collinsport along with the listeners. We meet all the regulars, get told about Windcliff and Widows Hill and Collinwood. Tour the general store and the Inn and The Blue Whale. We get a "day in the life in Collinsport", with some supernatural mixed in with the more mundane horrors, and then the new people are off while we're left to deal with the townsfolk trying to live their lives in one of the most haunted areas in the United States. All that and we get set up with the through-arc of Mad Jack and the upcoming live broadcast of Beyond The Grave. Next time we'll rejoin Cyrus Longworth, some thirty-odd years after his birth back in The Fall of the House of Trask. Long, interweaving plotlines indeed.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 12, 2015 1:18:37 GMT
So checking the wiki, I came to find out that Cyrus was a character from one of the parallel time story arcs, and was not present in the "real" timeline, prior to the audios. He was a Doctor Jekyll / Mister Hyde type character, with his alter ego John Yaeger. The way they've managed to keep the duel personality aspect of the character in the main timeline is quite clever. The Enemy Within opens with Cyrus greeting new neighbor Sabrina Jennings, Amy's older sister (in-law?). He's adorably awkward, even with the evil voice in his head. Coincidentally, they've both run here to Bangor from Collinsport, though neither of them realize it at the time. Is her brother Ned the same who's married to Carolyn in Return to Collinwood? I see Jim has been promoted to Sheriff. Oh god both of them are a lot more messed up than they first appear. A werewolf and the son of the devil. A match made in heaven (heheh). I really hope they end up together. The Jennings family just gets no breaks, does it? Vampires, werewolves, witches, curses, the whole shebang. This could have felt quite divorced from everything, but the calls home to Jim and Carolyn help keep it connected to the happenings back in Collinsport. I'm glad this one finally got a follow-up in a later play. Oh there's that nursery rhyme again. It's going to get stuck in my head by the end of all this. It's the 1970's version of I Wanna Dance For You, it is. Mad Jack taunts Amy in her dreams as we open on The Lucifer Gambit. Oh Amy Jennings. I've really grown fond of her from both this season and Bloodlust. Professor Stokes is one of those characters that I keep hearing about second-hand or through narrated versions of conversations, like Julia, or Barnabas. I understand he was in The Christmas Presence, but recast? Why haven't they gotten Toby Longworth back in to play him again? Anyway, back to Amy. And, ah, more Cunninghams! Isobel is cousin to the Covington sisters from The Phantom Bride. You'd think Amy would have remembered the name. Hey that train conductor finally got a name! When I first heard about mysterious flames that only burn people and not the house, I had somewhat hoped that Laura was back, in some form. Dominic is a bit of a tit, isn't he? No wonder his wife's trying to kill him from beyond the grave. This one's a good (re)introduction to Amy Jennings. She randomly showed up at The Blue Whale in Beneath the Vale, and we spent some time with her sister-in-law, as well as learning about one of her brothers, in The Enemy Within. And before, we met her other brother, sort of, in The House by the Sea. Now, though, it's Amy's time to shine. We've spent a lot of time with the Jenningses over the course of these 1970s plays thus far. The family was, I gather, rather prominent in the middle years of the show, as supporting cast for Barnabas', and then Quentin's, ongoing curses. This play also starts building up the Cunninghams. We've already met John in The Creeping Fog and The Covington Sisters in The Phantom Bride, but this is the play that connects them, through Isobel, and lets us know that they've been around for a couple generations, dabbling in the dark arts to varying degrees of effectiveness. Nice to see Amy and Sabrina reuniting there at the end on the train. Ha! We begin The Flip Side by lampshading the lack of variety in the jukebox at The Blue Whale. I'm not really sure what to say about this one. It's at once an exquisite character piece for Carolyn, giving her some self-reflection and soul searching, but also a nice look to some early events of the series. As it transpires, Jonah's father was the man that Roger hit with his car all those years ago. If that simple act hadn't happened, much of the series' many events probably wouldn't have happened, or at the very least would have happened quite differently, had Roger not been drunk behind the wheel that night. Jonah's properly terrifying in this, manipulating not just the minds of those around, but reality itself as he flips through parallel timestreams like songs on the jukebox. I appreciate the allusions to other versions of Dark Shadows, particularly some of the films. It's a nice touch that helps incorporate them into the wider multiverse of the original show, all versions existing together at the same time. And hey it's those Leviathans again. They sure do get around. Vampires, Werewolves, Witches, and Leviathans; the Collinsport staples, as far as I can tell. I appreciate that the subplots with Sabrina and Amy and various other characters continue in this one, even if they aren't the main focus of the story. I wonder if Big Finish will ever get the chance to do audios based on the films or other takes on the series. Whatever did happen to Victoria Winters? I still don't know and I refuse to look it up. I'll get there eventually. Ah the resolution. Like getting hit by a freight train. And Carolyn grows up a little. That phone call had me tearing up a bit. Ah. Here we are. It's happening. Beyond the Grave. The first time I listened to this it was late and there was a storm on. It absolutely terrified me. Was watching my shadow for the rest of the night. Took me ages to fall asleep. Needless to say, I loved it. Mad Jack Hutchinson. What was going on around Collinsport in 1907? I love the 'technical hitches' that happen during the broadcast. And the screaming. All the screaming. This is one of those long-standing mysteries that is being mentioned for the first time but has apparently always been a part of the town, like The Crimson Pearl before it. They mention that things are centered on the cemetery, the mausoleum in particular. I wonder if Barnabas was calling out in his dreams or somesuch, though things have obviously continued on well after he woke up and vacated his former resting place. Nice to get callbacks to all the regulars from the season, and before, and connections back to Beneath the Veil. And of course we're meeting Kate for the first time, who will be back in a big way for Bloodlust. She comes off very much as a fun, if dismissive, skeptical host of this ghost-hunters type show. Poking fun at her co-host, talking over Amy (how dare she?! ), suggesting Maggie might be less than reputable due to her stays at Windcliff. Honestly, she doesn't come off the best at first, though we obviously feel for her by the end. We also get lots of little mentions and appearances of people who a regulars later, in the 1980s stuff; mentions of Ed and Susan, a cameo from Isaiah, etc. I wonder, is Isaiah meant to be the "main timeline" version of the minister from House of Dark Shadows? The deaths in this one are rather more... gruesome than usual Dark Shadows fare. There's no atmospheric music to set the tone, just radio static, juttery audio cuts, and the gun going off. The abrupt end is also rather jarring, keeping with the whole feel of the thing. It really is a great play, and it serves as the impetus for many things int he series following, both in the continued 1970s audios and the full-cast 1980s audios that follow chronologically. The concept of the very cemetery becoming a malevolent force just from all the evil happenings that have soaked into its grounds is quite novel. The very graveyard itself just wants more blood and bodies to consume. A truly horrifying experience. Great stuff. One of the best things Big Finish has ever put out. And now, the aftermath. I've not actually listened to this one all the way through, I am a little loath to admit. The first time, I hadn't heard The House by the Sea yet, or much of any others of them. This time though, I'm all caught up, and can't wait to hear how this plays out. It's just so heartbreaking to listen to Maggie... give up. There's no opening theme. Instead we begin with a news broadcast, denouncing Beyond the Grave as just "another sort of drama". It's a very nice bridge between the "live broadcast" of the previous outing and more... typical fare for Dark Shadows. I now understand Maggie's dislike of old clothes. Ah it's those damn Leviathans again. So Nicholas Blair reminds me a bit of The Master. Shadowy blackness that possesses a poor unfortunate. Look into my eyes. And looking up some of the actor's other DS character's, there's one that looks like someone's doing a Delgado cosplay. Baker does a splendid job here. A very introspective piece. This is somewhat of a eulogy for Jim. And whatever the opposite of a eulogy is for Maggie. And I suspect the complete wrong introduction for Blair, or who is in the show. They talk about how evil he is, or was, but you don't really see any of it here. He seems very much to be, well, Colin Baker. Not that that's really a bad thing. This was a much needed follow-up to Beyond The Grave. Not exactly ending on a happy note, but a hopeful one. Next time we'll be tackling The Happier Dead, as Amy once again steps into the spotlight.
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Post by omega on Nov 12, 2015 1:40:02 GMT
Amy Jennings had two brothers, Chris and Tom. Tom died during the original series, and his ghost appears in House by the Sea. Chris, who had a werewolf curse, married Sabrina Stuart in the audio continuity (she became Sabrina Jennings, and is Amy's sister in-law). Sabrina's story continues in Carriage of the Damned, which follows Happier Dead. Carriage is also foreshadowed at the end of Curtain Call, set early on but released before The Harvest of Souls.
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Post by omega on Nov 12, 2015 1:46:31 GMT
Ha! We begin The Flip Side by lampshading the lack of variety in the jukebox at The Blue Whale. I'm not really sure what to say about this one. It's at once an exquisite character piece for Carolyn, giving her some self-reflection and soul searching, but also a nice look to some early events of the series. As it transpires, Jonah's father was the man that Roger hit with his car all those years ago. If that simple act hadn't happened, much of the series' many events probably wouldn't have happened, or at the very least would have happened quite differently, had Roger not been drunk behind the wheel that night. Jonah's properly terrifying in this, manipulating not just the minds of those around, but reality itself as he flips through parallel timestreams like songs on the jukebox. I appreciate the allusions to other versions of Dark Shadows, particularly some of the films. It's a nice touch that helps incorporate them into the wider multiverse of the original show, all versions existing together at the same time. And hey it's those Leviathans again. They sure do get around. Vampires, Werewolves, Witches, and Leviathans; the Collinsport staples, as far as I can tell. I appreciate that the subplots with Sabrina and Amy and various other characters continue in this one, even if they aren't the main focus of the story. I wonder if Big Finish will ever get the chance to do audios based on the films or other takes on the series. Whatever did happen to Victoria Winters? I still don't know and I refuse to look it up. I'll get there eventually. Ah the resolution. Like getting hit by a freight train. And Carolyn grows up a little. That phone call had me tearing up a bit. The Flip Side might just be my favorite Dramatic Reading. Newcomers to Dark Shadows can understand it, and it has enough easter eggs, especially relating to that first Burke Devlin story arc, to satisfy seasoned fans. It's a strong character piece for Carolyn, forcing her to assess her life and she ends up all the better for it. Parallel Time Jonah doing a Yoko Ono/Spike and using buried resentments to pull the tight knit group of the girls night apart also exposes aspects of the other character's personalities, and how they interact with Carolyn. The original song is very catchy, and much nicer than the Mad Jack nursery rhyme that has permeated this set of stories.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 13, 2015 0:34:09 GMT
The Happier Dead. Never heard this one before. Interesting opener. Loved Murray Melvin in Torchwood. I find it amusing that Dominic has apparently been sending Amy flowers since The Lucifer Gambit. Oh hey Mike Devereux! Damn they were setting up Bloodlust early weren't they? We've skipped ahead a few months since Halloween, haven't we, if Amy and her boyfriend are discussing Christmas plans. The nurse's describing of the 'outbreak' is rather horrifying. I have the horrible feeling that Simon's not going to last until the end of the play. If I didn't know Amy was in Bloodlust, I'd be worried that she was going to solve the "mysterious livings" and then keel over dead, not having actually survived the operation. Edwin's great. Oh god the truck crash victim just arrived. They're just setting Simon up to get shoved in the fridge, aren't they? But no, that'd too obvious, wouldn't it? Shades of Miracle Day, the dead not dying, especially with a former Torchwood villain on the cast list. I'm not sure whether this play is horrifying or ridiculous. Oh. Oh dear. Well that's not quite how I expected things with Simon to turn out. Oh dear. He was growing on me... These plays really don't often have happy endings, do they? I must say, the foreshadowing of the end was so heavy I was assuming it to be a red herring, but I'll admit that the way it was sprung on us still managed to surprise me.
Carriage of the Damned. What better way for sisters to bond than a little disinterment? Hey Gerard Stiles, he was tangentially involved in Curtain Call, wasn't he? Yeah, at the end, during her vision of the future. Hmm. Looks like this is it. I'm growing rather fond of Sabrina. The Jennings sisters are great. Right up there with Maggie and Carolyn. It's a shame we only get Maggie in the first two fullcast seasons, and only add Amy in Bloodlust. Oh hey it's Elspeth! I enjoyed her in The Darkest Shadow, though now that I think about it, that came out after this, didn't it? Though I gather it was supposed to be a couple releases before. Ah well, release schedules. Oh wow, just looked Elspeth up on the wiki. Had no idea this actress was young Amy in the show. Interesting. And I see Nurse Pauline from the prior play is treating herself to a vacation! She just has no luck with these sorts of things, doesn't she? Is Hallie related to the oft-missing Professor? Ah, yes, I see she is. The interconnected characters help to keep the "ongoing season" feel going. This set began with Curtain Call, featuring the stairway to time, which relates to Harvest of Souls, and forecasts Stiles, of import to this one, which follows up The Happier Dead and has characters from The Darkest Shadow. I take it Miss Stokes and Mr Stiles are characters from the show? Their introductions are such that it sounded like I was supposed to know who they are. What a lovely cast of characters there are on this train. Is The Major the only character who's not returning in some capacity? I don't think I recognize him. Ha, "what's in the box?" I hate that movie. It's really good, but it just gets under my skin. I love how everyone is reciting their supernatural credentials the train conductor is just like "I'm the conductor on the train to Collinsport" and everyone's like "ah, well, yes, that'd cover it." The last several plays have had me braced for some terrifying stuff, but this is more Hammer Horror in nature. It says something that disembodied heads and ancient curses is somehow "lighter fare" for Dark Shadows. Heheh I love it. Frankenstein monsters on stranded trains. Great stuff. So is Gerard Stiles now living at Collinsport in 1973? And Hallie? Ah, I see Amy and Sabrina won't be getting on after all...
It's been a while since we last joined Tony & Cassandra. These usually have happier endings than the normal plays, so perhaps this will provide some much-needed levity. Glad to see they're following up the lingering plot threads from The Phantom Bride. This one sort of goes along... and along... and it's just slow, isn't it? Hey some Charles Tate paintings. I wonder if that'll be relevant to the plot. Tony's cousins are annoying. And fake drunkenness just isn't that entertaining. This just... isn't really doing it for me. Looking at the thread over on the old BF forums, they're praising the acting and lauding up all the continuity references. While I am catching a fair bit of references, the main plot just isn't interesting me that much. I've also been spoiled a bit by the last handful of audios being really tightly linked, that I'm rather impatient for this side-trip to be over so we can get back to Collinsport. This one runs about an hour twenty, and it doesn't really pick up until there's only about a half-hour left, when they find the maid. The pace picks up and the story gets moving. This last thirty minutes was much much better than the prior fifty. And then people died. And the Dark Lord showed up. Man I am really hating that guy right now. Seriously, Tony and Cassandra were about to get together! Why'd he have to butt in a ruin things! Aaargh! It was a powerful and depressing scene, when her cries of sorrow slowly turned to wicked laughter. I suppose that explains why she's dead at the beginning of the full-casts...
And that's it for 1973, sort of. What a depressing note to end on. :/ As much as I have loved the last set of post-Bloodlust audios, I really do want more 1970s plays, to help bridge the gap to The House of Despair. This really felt like a lot of wrapping up. We've heard mention of Ed and Susan in the background. Amy's sworn off Collinsport, not to return until after her marriage in ten year's time. We got some tidbits about Michael Devereux, and made sure Angelique is evil and dead. We even got an early appearance from Reverend Hartswood (whom I still think is the main timeline version of the Minister from House of Dark Shadows). There's just so much left to explore! Julia and Barnabas and Stokes returning from Egypt. Halie and Stiles are now in town. Sabrina is free of her curse, but has just been disowned by her sister-in-law. Roger and Elizabeth need to return home at some point as well, not to mention Carolyn and David! There's just so much to explore. According to the timelines, there's another four years before Strix drives everyone out of Collinwood, and another six years after that before Quentin comes home and resurrects Angelique! There's literally ten whole years to fill and you can't tell me that strange stuff just stopped happening during the interim. I'd love to hear a set of audios set in 1977, unrelated happenings at first, but with crows in the background, and people falling unwell, until we culminate in Strix taking over the house by the end of the season. And obviously the town continues to function, somewhat, until Quentin arrives, so I'm sure there's plenty of stories that could be told during that gap as well.
Opinions, should I cut in line a bit and listen to Deliver Us From Evil prior to jumping into the 1980s audios? Or leave it until after Twinkling and follow along with the framing sequence?
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 14, 2015 1:12:11 GMT
Surprise! Listening to The Night Whispers before moving on to the full-casts. Disclaimer: this is the first time I've ever heard Frid playing Barnabas. I'm in a holding pattern only a few episodes before his first appearance in the Original Series. I've watched the 1991 Revival, and the Tim Burton Movie, and heard the full-casts audios. So Frid is, in fact, the only Barnabas I haven't experienced as of yet. So hear we go. Hmm. He sounds a bit like Leonard Nemoy. Putting interesting images in my head. Barnabas is home, and muses over whether Angelique is really gone or not. Willie comments that it seems like the "bad things" might actually be over. Barnabas ruminates over a tale from his youth, an early brush with the supernatural, as a voice whispers to him on the wind of a stormy night. I feel for the young servant girl. And, while the first man was arguably deserving of his fate, I also feel a bit for the rest of young Barnabas' party. I wonder if Martinique is located close to Maljardin? Maybe it's the next island over. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I'm surprised Barnabas ever went back to Martinique after that. Oh, Barnabas isn't a vampire anymore? I guess Julia's experiments paid off. Also explains why Angelique has to renew his curse in The House of Despair. Karlen's pretty amazing as an actor, isn't he? The Voice foreshadows the full-casts; "The battles you will face..." "I see a Battle you can not win. A time will come when Collinwood falls to ruins, the sky turned black." Barbara Steele was barely in this. Final thoughts: Jonathan Frid has a commanding presence as this ancient man, dominating the scene, and, even free of his vampire curse, utterly destroys this foe by sheer force of iron-clad will. I have, at last, met Barnabas Collins, and he was magnificent. Setting aside the producer's timeline notes, this really is easily slotted in shortly before Strix's invasion, as a capstone to the seventies and a prelude to the full-cast audios. As good a way as any to wrap up, with the old Barnabas welcoming whatever comes next.
Now, on, to what comes next.
The last time I listened to these, I had little idea who these characters were or much of the significance behind anything. We'll see what illumination is shed, now that I've been through the rest of the audios prior.
Episode 1 - The House of Despair - Part One. Quentin hasn't been home for some nine years or so, and rides the train into town. Every series of Dark Shadows begins with someone on a train. The other passenger has such a magnificent voice. And of course, after the train, we go to the inn and get a cup of coffee from Maggie. Dark Shadows by numbers. I love it. That's how the OS began, that's how the 1970s audios began, that's how the full-casts begin. We learn about how things gradually got worse in town, and one morning the family on the hill was gone. We explain the sparse cast via lots of people leaving town. That also explains the gradually growing cast over the this and the next two seasons, as people move back into town over the course of the next two years in story time. Willie is a broken man. It's interesting that Strix is happy to just sit in the house, while the town mostly gets on with things. He even lets Willie take care of the grounds. Hey it's Ed! And Susan! A note on the sheriff being female. I wonder where Rhonda was during all this? Quentin makes an infuriated speech in The Blue Whale, before stalking off back up the hill. And we end on Collinwood, full of crows, looking down like an Alfred Hitchcock movie. All in all, not necessarily the best opener, for introducing new listeners to the town. We don't explain who Quentin is, who anybody is, we just sort of drop in an are sort of expected to be familiar with it already. Granted, at the time, I gather the target audience was people who just wanted more Dark Shadows rather than trying to pull in new people. Love that soulful piano music though.
Episode 2 - The House of Despair - Part Two. This episode sees the introduction, of sorts, of Mr Strix, as well as the revival of the witch, Angelique. Quentin remarks that he's brought Angelique back to life before. A part of the original series, I assume. Angelique gets a bit more of an expository introduction. Remarks on that she's a powerful witch, remarks that she was once a servant, her personality on full display. She's familiar with Quentin, she delights in giving Willie a hard time, she's much more fully realized than our regulars from the opening episode. We 'meet' Liz, David, Roger, Carolyn, without any ado, aside from that they're the Collinses. I may be harping on a bit about how this really isn't a good opener for a new series, but don't think I'm not enjoying it. Angelique agrees that Quentin probably should have let her rot in the earth. We get explanations on Barnabas' vampire curse, and Angelique's hand therein. Introspection and gramophones. We're getting to know Willie and Quentin well. They have finally mentioned that Quentin's around a century old, as he and Angelique ruminate on immortality. Even after agreeing to help, she still gives Willie guff, for the fun of it. We learn that Barnabas is no dead, much to Angelique's horror. We end at the table where Mr Strix and his birds sit waiting for our two intrepid immortals.
Episode 3 - The House of Despair - Part Three. A master of murder, as in crows, is an interesting character concept, that appeals to me. I feel something more could have been done with the concept. It'd be cool to have a season set in the mid-Seventies with Mr Strix, the 'humble ornithologist', lurking in the background manipulating the crows around town as they feast on the souls of the town and he drives the Collins family from their roost. I love how people spit witch at Angelique like she'll think that's an insult. In retrospect, Willie told us he was lost back in episode one, he just meant it literally. Strix tries to rip out Quentin's soul, only to find that he has none. Strix is suddenly very worried. And then he makes the monumental mistake of trying to speak to Angelique as Barnabas. Why potentially pissing off one of the most powerful witches around seemed like a good idea is quite beyond me. After throwing him to his own crows, Angelique rips out his soul and uses the left-behind body to house Barnabas, giving him new life. And a new actor. Welcome welcome Andrew Collins to the role. The shoes are large, but I think he does a splendid enough job of things. It occurs to me that there may well have been a decent amount of people in town, but that a fair amount of them may have been among the lost, present, but not really, due to Strix's influence. Angelique remarks that Barnabas' curse is to be a vampire until he loves her, not until the end of time. Barnabas remarks that it may as well be the same thing. Barnabas bites Willie in order to help save his life, but in the process it reaffirms Angelique's curse on Barnabas, fully restoring him to his vampiric form, much to his disgust, and Angelique's delight. Back in town, Susan remarks that she thinks they're going to be safe. Oh if only she knew... As we close, Quentin, Barnabas, and Angelique, the three immortals, vow to restore Collinwood to glory.
The stage is set, the regulars in place. We have the trio up in Collinwood, with Willie keeping the grounds. We have Maggie in the inn, with Ed and Susan over at the Blue Whale. That's pretty much the entirety of the regular cast for this first season. There's one major guest character for each three-episode sub-story, but that's pretty much it.
Episode 4 - The Book of Temptation - Part One. Daphne Ashbrook has a voice I just recognize. Does Maggie get her memory erased or something? Oh, wait, that was Julia's doing wasn't it? Or was that a separate event? Either way, Maggie doesn't recognize Angelique, and doesn't seem to think supernatural stuff is real when she heads up to Collinwood to give Quentin a piece of her mind. Quentin just lies really well, doesn't he? I don't see why Maggie finds it so hard to believe that Quentin called for Angelique, he could have easily arranged to meet her before coming back home, or something. I do believe I heard a fly on the soundtrack heheh. Why did Quentin leave Collinsport back in the early Seventies? And stayed away for everything bar getting rid of the Crimson Pearl? A haunted book lost somewhere in the Collins estate is a rather humble story seed, as far as Dark Shadows go. Ah Barnabas, you just can't stay away from her, can you? I take it this is the ghost of one of Barnabas' victims? Let's see, 1926, that'd be around when Jameson Collins was a child, yes? Was Barnabas up and about then? Hey wait, the ghost refers to meeting in the cellar of 'The Eagle'. Would that be the alternate timeline version of The Blue Whale mentioned in The Flip Side? I can still hear the book writing itself in the background while Barnabas talks to Maggie. And that fly again. Interesting talk of ghost ships, given what's to come. This is more like it. We've done all the introductions and backstory over the last three episodes, and now we're getting a proper yarn, intrigue, and mystery abound.
Episode 5 - The Book of Temptation - Part Two. Why they thought it was a good idea to leave Angelique alone with Maggie is beyond me. There's that damn fly again! To whoever pointed it out to me on the old BF forums, damn you! I can't not notice it anymore! Once again we're time travelling. Or something. Why isn't Quentin the one travelling back to 1926. I mean, he wouldn't be out of place there, right? Like, the servant girl should recognize him as belonging to that time period, right? Interesting conceit about the book. The words reading themselves off the page, the book consuming the reader. Getting caught up in a good book, heh. So Angelique doesn't like Maggie, because Barnabas likes her, and Angelique likes Barnabas, and Quentin is fond of Maggie, and has history with Angelique, and doesn't like Barnabas much. Have I got that right? Is this Angelique's journal or something? She seems to know more about what's happening than she's letting on. Oh, good plan, throw the book in a forgotten wing of the house and throw away the key. I'm sure that'll end well. What's with everyone and making the mistake of trusting Angelique in this? Speaking of which, it's rather sad to see how Angelique's become after the events of The Devil Cat. A bit disheartening, really. Having lived in Seattle for a bit over a decade now, I'm going to have to agree with Maggie on the tea versus coffee debate. Oh look, the tea was part of Angelique's spell, should have gone for coffee after all! It's almost as if Angelique is trying to get rid of her or something...
Episode 6 - The Book of Temptation - Part Three. Barnabas makes a lot of "I feel like a new man" double entendres that fly right over Maggie's head, and he tries his hand at flirting with her a bit, which also flies right by. Maggie tells this "new man" that coming to Collinsport was the worst move he ever could have made. He tries to be endearing and just ends up angering her. He just can't help trying to defend the family, even if he agrees with her. Ah, Angelique was using Maggie as bait. How conniving of her. So it's not her book, then. I wonder if we'll get an answer to that. Ah, I see not. The book's so old the victims don't even know why they're doing what they're doing. Hmm. I still think it might be Angelique's journal. Maggie puts her foot down. No selfless sacrifice here. A big "Sorry but sod off" from our favorite coffee girl. Good for her. I managed to catch 1808 as one of the dates read off by the voices, and I didn't hear any 1700s dates. Yeah, I think it's Angelique's book. She certainly seems pleased that Maggie's been marked. All in all, a much better outing than The House of Despair, which was, despite the action, mostly introductions, exposition, and backstory, setting things up and explaining why those not present weren't. This one though was a nice little ghost story, confined to the house, for the most part, but a gripping little tale nonetheless. And may I just repeat that I absolutely adore the music in these releases? Is there a soundtrack I can find somewhere?
Next is The Christmas Presence, and the return of the oft-mentioned Professor Stokes.
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Post by omega on Nov 14, 2015 1:20:55 GMT
Next is The Christmas Presence, and the return of the oft-mentioned Professor Stokes. I love The Book of Temptation, can't wait for the CD to arrive in the post. The music is another aspect of the early Full Casts I love. They might be on The Legend Reborn CD. Why can't Joseph Fox come back to compose some more music for the range?
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 14, 2015 3:42:56 GMT
The music is another aspect of the early Full Casts I love. They might be on The Legend Reborn CD. Why can't Joseph Fox come back to compose some more music for the range? Ah thank you! I shall have to check that out.
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Post by omega on Nov 14, 2015 5:07:46 GMT
The music is another aspect of the early Full Casts I love. They might be on The Legend Reborn CD. Why can't Joseph Fox come back to compose some more music for the range? Ah thank you! I shall have to check that out. Picked it up in the Boo Finish sale a couple of weeks ago. It looks like a behind the scenes for the first full cast season, including interviews, outtakes and music suites. It's CD only though, like the two Angelique's Descent releases. LINK
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Post by barnabaslives on Nov 14, 2015 17:12:17 GMT
I'm totally enjoying this thread, and maybe the best thing about it is finding that the mention of these audios already brings back tons of memories the same way discussion of the original series does for me. BFDS is now REAL Dark Shadows in that sense too. Maybe I can make time to indulge the inspiration sometime and give them all another listen.
Not sure what to tell you about Deliver Us From Evil other than I don't think the current season is interconnected enough to mandate a particular listening order. I bet it would probably be very gratifying to go from The Enemy Within right to Deliver Us From Evil (or right after Beneath The Veil also for the background on Alfie and Emma) so that things get on to their sorting promptly, but the original timing of the releases made for quite a cliffhanger, I think... So whatever you want to do would probably work fine?
I hope I don't influence anyone's opinion of the audios with this, but I'm still not sure what to think of Stokes in The Christmas Presence. I think between the recasting and the out-of-character behavior I was too disoriented most of the way through that story the first time. That particular recasting still challenges my feelings about recastings, too - on the one hand, I think it would be fantastic to bring back some characters without having to resort to some kind of possession or body-swapping story to explain every one of the recastings, and on the other hand I don't know if The Christmas Presence is ever going to seem quite right to me without Elizabeth shrieking at least once over Stoke's inexplicable transformation into a Native American. ;-)
Can't quite figure this as I'm sure Toby Longworth is sufficiently brilliant. I still struggle with that one though - shame on me, but I think I was actually glad that The Curse of Shurafa used Stokes' voice as sparingly as it did. Quite possibly I just shouldn't have picked The Christmas Presence as one of my very first audios but I saw the name Stokes and of course couldn't resist. I wish I could get it worked out because Stokes is a fantastic character - in spite of his frequent habit of being nowhere to be found when the stuff really hits the fan, he lends a tremendously reassuring presence that there is someone else besides Barnabas and Julia who has actually has a clue to some of what's going on around them.
Keep an eye (ear) out for another returning original cast member in The Rage Beneath.
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Post by barnabaslives on Nov 14, 2015 17:12:28 GMT
I'm totally enjoying this thread, and maybe the best thing about it is finding that the mention of these audios already brings back tons of memories the same way discussion of the original series does for me. BFDS is now REAL Dark Shadows in that sense too. Maybe I can make time to indulge the inspiration sometime and give them all another listen. Not sure what to tell you about Deliver Us From Evil other than I don't think the current season is interconnected enough to mandate a particular listening order. I bet it would probably be very gratifying to go from The Enemy Within right to Deliver Us From Evil (or right after Beneath The Veil also for the background on Alfie and Emma) so that things get on to their sorting promptly, but the original timing of the releases made for quite a cliffhanger, I think... So whatever you want to do would probably work fine? I hope I don't influence anyone's opinion of the audios with this, but I'm still not sure what to think of Stokes in The Christmas Presence. I think between the recasting and the out-of-character behavior I was too disoriented most of the way through that story the first time. That particular recasting still challenges my feelings about recastings, too - on the one hand, I think it would be fantastic to bring back some characters without having to resort to some kind of possession or body-swapping story to explain every one of the recastings, and on the other hand I don't know if The Christmas Presence is ever going to seem quite right to me without Elizabeth shrieking at least once over Stokes' inexplicable transformation into a Native American. ;-) Can't quite figure this as I'm sure Toby Longworth is sufficiently brilliant. I still struggle with that one though - shame on me, but I think I was actually glad that The Curse of Shurafa used Stokes' voice as sparingly as it did. Quite possibly I just shouldn't have picked The Christmas Presence as one of my very first audios but I saw the name Stokes and of course couldn't resist. I wish I could get it worked out because Stokes is a fantastic character - in spite of his frequent habit of being nowhere to be found when the stuff really hits the fan, he lends a tremendously reassuring presence that there is someone else besides Barnabas and Julia who has actually has a clue to some of what's going on around them. Keep an eye (ear) out for another returning original cast member in The Rage Beneath.
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Post by Rob Morris on Nov 14, 2015 19:21:29 GMT
I think I was actually glad that The Curse of Shurafa used Stokes' voice as sparingly as it did. I worried I'd underused him if I'm honest. So worried, in fact, that I then wrote him up a fair bit at the end in the denoument to the 1970s bit - and then I worried he'd be too showy. So I'm glad you think he was sparingly used in the end. If he's important to the resolution but not intrusive then that works for me.
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