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Post by sherlock on Feb 19, 2022 14:48:06 GMT
Added Death Will Not Part Us to the Eighth Doctor’s main act. I’ve put towards the end as it’s ending points to later developments.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 30, 2022 12:38:12 GMT
Doctor of War has been given its own section right at the bottom of the Saga.
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Post by sherlock on May 12, 2022 18:33:42 GMT
Latest War Doctor Begins has been added, in the usual slot for that range.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 17, 2022 22:40:39 GMT
Well, erm, Self-Defence will just have to be imperfect.
It’s set during The Sky Man again. But I can’t use the same fudge as Killing Time cos events of The Sky Man are actually relevant. So it’ll have to go between sky Man and Heavenly Paradigm. Really quite ruins the dovetail from one to the other, but such is the way.
Please Big Finish, set Escape From Reality literally anywhere else in the War Master’s life.
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Post by brian on Jul 12, 2022 11:30:14 GMT
Please Big Finish, set Escape From Reality literally anywhere else in the War Master’s life. Since in Escape From Reality, the Master is in the Land of Fiction, perhaps that's where he was coming from in Unit: Cyber Reality. On the other hand, he's on the run from the Daleks at the beginning of it, so where would that set it? Right after Anti-Genesis?
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jul 12, 2022 15:40:33 GMT
Please Big Finish, set Escape From Reality literally anywhere else in the War Master’s life. Since in Escape From Reality, the Master is in the Land of Fiction, perhaps that's where he was coming from in Unit: Cyber Reality. On the other hand, he's on the run from the Daleks at the beginning of it, so where would that set it? Right after Anti-Genesis? Anti-Genesis leads right into Only the Good.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 21, 2022 17:21:05 GMT
Listened to The Third Wise Man (been working through audiobooks of the Dave Rudden anthologies lately, genuinely great stuff) which floats the somewhat mind boggling notion that everything up to the young War Doctor happens within the first year of the Time War from the Time Lords’ POV at least (I’m not sure the same is true of the Doctor and Daleks involved).
It also features a younger General when he’s still a Commander in this time, which I have no idea how to reconcile with him meeting the Eighth Doctor whilst a General in Time War 4 but that’s a Time War for you.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 21, 2022 17:43:18 GMT
Listened to The Third Wise Man (been working through audiobooks of the Dave Rudden anthologies lately, genuinely great stuff) which floats the somewhat mind boggling notion that everything up to the young War Doctor happens within the first year of the Time War from the Time Lords’ POV at least (I’m not sure the same is true of the Doctor and Daleks involved). It also features a younger General when he’s still a Commander in this time, which I have no idea how to reconcile with him meeting the Eighth Doctor whilst a General in Time War 4 but that’s a Time War for you. That’s a cracking story, as is most of his other stuff, but I think you have to take creative liberty with slotting the shorts in, as Rudden does with writing them. It felt to me he was trying to poetically get across that the Time War could be both infinite and non-existent whilst also reinforcing the toll it’s taken on the Doctor, albeit physically in this case.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 10, 2022 22:12:04 GMT
Rejigged Gallifrey’s placements a bit.
So War Room has its own act straight after the finale of Time War 4. Bit of an easy one. There is one complication in Narvin alluding to the Doctor not being involved, which wouldn’t match Romana’s comments in Beyond, but the context it’s in means he could just be bluffing.
I’ve moved the first three stories of Time War 3 a little earlier so Gallifrey gets spread out a bit. Kept Unity where it was cos it dovetails into Time War 4.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 16, 2022 10:00:53 GMT
Gave the Aftermath section a bit of a refresh. It now includes two 9DAs that have (admittedly brief) links to the War, the new 10/Classic Companions since Time War leftovers is it’s theme and after much deliberation I have added TLV-but only Ten’s and the Daleks’ storylines as they relate closest to the War.
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Post by constonks on Sept 29, 2022 1:34:02 GMT
Listened to The Third Wise Man (been working through audiobooks of the Dave Rudden anthologies lately, genuinely great stuff) which floats the somewhat mind boggling notion that everything up to the young War Doctor happens within the first year of the Time War from the Time Lords’ POV at least (I’m not sure the same is true of the Doctor and Daleks involved). It also features a younger General when he’s still a Commander in this time, which I have no idea how to reconcile with him meeting the Eighth Doctor whilst a General in Time War 4 but that’s a Time War for you. I just assumed that the War Doctor was in an earlier time frame than he should have been in. So that's a very early War story for Kenossium and the other Time Lords, but a later one for the War Doctor. As you said, "that's a Time War for you"!
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Post by mark687 on Oct 20, 2022 22:48:17 GMT
A surprisingly definite statement about which point Gallifrey Series Entries occur
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Post by theillusiveman on Oct 20, 2022 23:44:47 GMT
A surprisingly definite statement about which point Gallifrey Series Entries occur Regards mark687 Interesting considering that in Gallifrey Time War 4 Marvin speaks about the doctor saying he has changed and not for the better which i thought was the indication that he had regenerated into the war Doctor
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Post by sherlock on Oct 21, 2022 7:44:18 GMT
A surprisingly definite statement about which point Gallifrey Series Entries occur Regards mark687 Interesting considering that in Gallifrey Time War 4 Marvin speaks about the doctor saying he has changed and not for the better which i thought was the indication that he had regenerated into the war Doctor It wouldn’t be the first time Big Finish messed up their own continuity. *Gestures at the Seventh Doctor’s TARDIS* I suppose being charitable, it is possible for a story to involve Time Lords prior to Night but have them aware of the War Doctor. There’s two stories (The Stranger, The Third Wise Man) where he seems to come into contact with Time Lords earlier in the Time War then he is.
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Post by sherlock on Dec 4, 2022 21:07:26 GMT
Happily, Escape from Reality is not set during The Sky Man. It could be basically anywhere in the War Master’s life during the Time War, so into Act 2 it goes.
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Post by sherlock on Jan 5, 2023 0:16:13 GMT
Latest War Doctor Begins set has its own act after War Room 1, owing to Leela’s cameo. It feels of big enough scale to justify itself. I think/hope going forward War Doctor Begins and War Room can be kept in parallel with each other.
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Post by brian on Jan 10, 2023 19:15:51 GMT
Happily, Escape from Reality is not set during The Sky Man. It could be basically anywhere in the War Master’s life during the Time War, so into Act 2 it goes. Could it go right before Cyber Reality? I seem to remember that the Master uses the Cybermen excursion into the DW universe as a way to get back to that universe. I remember thinking, "back from where?" Maybe from the fictional universe.
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Post by sherlock on Jan 26, 2023 9:30:17 GMT
Time War 5 - Cass had been added.
I’ve reshuffled the Eighth Doctor’s acts a bit. Time War 1 - 4 is it’s own distinct act now and 5 onwards will be in a new act. 5 seems to be a new start and sometime has passed since 4, which to account for storytelling wise I’ve shuffled in The Exiles as a cutaway.
All the miscellaneous Eight solo stuff is now separated as a long prologue to Night.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 9, 2023 18:25:03 GMT
Salvage has been added to the The Crossfire. I put it between The Lords of Terror and Planet of the Ogrons as I think that’s only really wide open gap in the Doctor and Bliss’ travels. Plus it works quite well as a follow-up to Lords.
Also rejigged the epilogue slightly, so Doctor of War is a little closer to the action.
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Post by sherlock on May 16, 2023 18:04:32 GMT
New act for Comrades-in-Arms, named after Case being a Berserker cyborg. I haven’t heard it myself (next month purchase maybe), so correct me if this is flawed.
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