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Post by tuigirl on Jun 13, 2020 13:22:13 GMT
I mean, there have been five other Originals that have been out for ages that haven't got a sequel and this gets recommissioned within three weeks? I don't like being this kind of person, but if this doesn't scream "I'm the boss so we're doing more of mine," I don't know what does... Some of the Originals have been hands down fantastic and not picked up again, and this one gets a second series after a lukewarm response (judging by this forum). Of all the Originals, I would have liked to get confirmation for just about any of the others first. 100% agree with this. But are we really surprised by this? To be honest? Nah.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 13, 2020 13:41:21 GMT
I mean, there have been five other Originals that have been out for ages that haven't got a sequel and this gets recommissioned within three weeks? I don't like being this kind of person, but if this doesn't scream "I'm the boss so we're doing more of mine," I don't know what does... Some of the Originals have been hands down fantastic and not picked up again, and this one gets a second series after a lukewarm response (judging by this forum). Of all the Originals, I would have liked to get confirmation for just about any of the others first. Indeed. Yes I know we do not have sales figures, so it's entirely possible that Human Frontier sold like gangbusters where the other releases did not, justifying a second release, and we just don't know about it. And we absolutely are not entitled to those sales figures, so we'll likely never know. But it's also really hard not to come away with the perception you describe. Linking to that, I don’t think any of the Originals were marketed quite as aggressively pre-release as The Human Frontier was. Maybe it was just Big Finish trying new marketing, but it’s hard to shake the idea this is getting special treatment cos it’s the boss’ pet project. I did try the freebie first episode. The ideas are fine, the chronology being all over the place works effectively sometimes but was mostly confusing and the characters were well-defined, but ultimately it didn’t really motivate me invest in the full set.
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Post by Digi on Jun 13, 2020 13:43:12 GMT
Indeed. Yes I know we do not have sales figures, so it's entirely possible that Human Frontier sold like gangbusters where the other releases did not, justifying a second release, and we just don't know about it. And we absolutely are not entitled to those sales figures, so we'll likely never know. But it's also really hard not to come away with the perception you describe. Linking to that, I don’t think any of the Originals were marketed quite as aggressively pre-release as The Human Frontier was. Interesting timing - I opened up the thread to post the video below that was just posted on Twitter, and saw your post saying this ^ Rather more lavish than most promo videos.
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Post by Whovitt on Jun 13, 2020 13:51:32 GMT
Indeed. Yes I know we do not have sales figures, so it's entirely possible that Human Frontier sold like gangbusters where the other releases did not, justifying a second release, and we just don't know about it. And we absolutely are not entitled to those sales figures, so we'll likely never know. But it's also really hard not to come away with the perception you describe. Linking to that, I don’t think any of the Originals were marketed quite as aggressively pre-release as The Human Frontier was. Maybe it was just Big Finish trying new marketing, but it’s hard to shake the idea this is getting special treatment cos it’s the boss’ pet project. I did try the freebie first episode. The ideas are fine, the chronology being all over the place works effectively sometimes but was mostly confusing and the characters were well-defined, but ultimately it didn’t really motivate me invest in the full set. I'm not sure this was promoted as much as the other Originals; there were certainly more types of marketing used, but I'm not sure if the "gross amount" of marketing (if you will) was greater. I was listening to the podcast back when the others were released whereas I don't now, so maybe it was "over-promoted" there, but the other Originals would have 2-3 separate news articles in the month or so leading up to the actual release, usually not containing any information that we weren't already aware of for months. No other range has got that sort of promotion that I'm aware of.
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Post by grinch on Jun 13, 2020 13:55:35 GMT
To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me if we got a trilogy out of this. Or even spin off to further develop the universe.
Or maybe Nicholas Briggs will pull the rug from right under us and have the Daleks appear in the last story revealing it was set in the DW Universe the entire time.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 13, 2020 13:58:28 GMT
Linking to that, I don’t think any of the Originals were marketed quite as aggressively pre-release as The Human Frontier was. Maybe it was just Big Finish trying new marketing, but it’s hard to shake the idea this is getting special treatment cos it’s the boss’ pet project. I did try the freebie first episode. The ideas are fine, the chronology being all over the place works effectively sometimes but was mostly confusing and the characters were well-defined, but ultimately it didn’t really motivate me invest in the full set. I'm not sure this was promoted as much as the other Originals; there were certainly more types of marketing used, but I'm not sure if the "gross amount" of marketing (if you will) was greater. I was listening to the podcast back when the others were released whereas I don't now, so maybe it was "over-promoted" there, but the other Originals would have 2-3 separate news articles in the month or so leading up to the actual release, usually not containing any information that we weren't already aware of for months. No other range has got that sort of promotion that I'm aware of. My impression of Big Finish’s marketing is based mainly on their social media than the website if I’m honest and it certainly felt like I was seeing more Human Frontier based stuff there than I had the others. I might be entirely wrong.
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Post by Whovitt on Jun 13, 2020 14:02:06 GMT
I'm not sure this was promoted as much as the other Originals; there were certainly more types of marketing used, but I'm not sure if the "gross amount" of marketing (if you will) was greater. I was listening to the podcast back when the others were released whereas I don't now, so maybe it was "over-promoted" there, but the other Originals would have 2-3 separate news articles in the month or so leading up to the actual release, usually not containing any information that we weren't already aware of for months. No other range has got that sort of promotion that I'm aware of. My impression of Big Finish’s marketing is based mainly on their social media than the website if I’m honest and it certainly felt like I was seeing more Human Frontier based stuff there than I had the others. I might be entirely wrong. That's possible. Other than the odd Facebook post I don't see any of their social media so I can't comment.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jun 13, 2020 14:55:41 GMT
It does feel like we are getting a second series without any sign of a larger success compared to other originals. It’s only been out for three ish weeks and series 2 has been commissioned at the very least. I would hope that it isn’t just a case of I’m the boss, let’s do my thing regardless of quality/other well deserving series. Maybe this means they might announce a second series of Cicero, Shilling and Sixpence and Blind Terror etc.
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Post by elkawho on Jun 13, 2020 20:34:50 GMT
I mean, there have been five other Originals that have been out for ages that haven't got a sequel and this gets recommissioned within three weeks? I don't like being this kind of person, but if this doesn't scream "I'm the boss so we're doing more of mine," I don't know what does... Some of the Originals have been hands down fantastic and not picked up again, and this one gets a second series after a lukewarm response (judging by this forum). Of all the Originals, I would have liked to get confirmation for just about any of the others first. Yeah. I must admit this took me by surprise as well. I honestly thought it was more likely we were going to get more Jeremiah Bourne or another series of Cicero. I would have loved to have heard more from either of those.
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Post by pawntake on Jun 14, 2020 7:48:31 GMT
I mean, there have been five other Originals that have been out for ages that haven't got a sequel and this gets recommissioned within three weeks? I don't like being this kind of person, but if this doesn't scream "I'm the boss so we're doing more of mine," I don't know what does... Some of the Originals have been hands down fantastic and not picked up again, and this one gets a second series after a lukewarm response (judging by this forum). Of all the Originals, I would have liked to get confirmation for just about any of the others first. I purchased all the other originals except this one,Why ? Because as soon as BF announced that the range was ending i just lost complete interest!!! There was some great stuff in there and they made a refreshing change from the other BF audios. sad very sad
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Post by nudge on Jul 6, 2020 12:51:12 GMT
Finished listening to this today. It’s an interesting synopsis, but felt the execution fell short. The first hour was poor, the tone was much too light and some of the dialogue didn’t sit right. And why couldn’t we have some sexual tension between the characters rather than skipping through fields hand-in-hand. Okay they weren’t skipping, but this relationship didn’t seem believable so I couldn’t immerse myself into the story. Also did anybody else notice an audio clip which seemed out of sequence? I did persevere with it, but definitely won’t be buying Human Frontier 2.
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Post by Digi on Jul 6, 2020 14:59:18 GMT
Finished listening to this today. It’s an interesting synopsis, but felt the execution fell short. The first hour was poor, the tone was much too light and some of the dialogue didn’t sit right. And why couldn’t we have some sexual tension between the characters rather than skipping through fields hand-in-hand. Okay they weren’t skipping, but this relationship didn’t seem believable so I couldn’t immerse myself into the story. Also did anybody else notice an audio clip which seemed out of sequence? I did persevere with it, but definitely won’t be buying Human Frontier 2. FWIW that's clarified in subsequent episodes. The weird approach to chronology in this set definitely made it less enjoyable to me, though.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 6, 2020 19:13:03 GMT
Finished listening to this today. It’s an interesting synopsis, but felt the execution fell short. The first hour was poor, the tone was much too light and some of the dialogue didn’t sit right. And why couldn’t we have some sexual tension between the characters rather than skipping through fields hand-in-hand. Okay they weren’t skipping, but this relationship didn’t seem believable so I couldn’t immerse myself into the story. Also did anybody else notice an audio clip which seemed out of sequence? I did persevere with it, but definitely won’t be buying Human Frontier 2. FWIW that's clarified in subsequent episodes. The weird approach to chronology in this set definitely made it less enjoyable to me, though. I have to say the weird time skipping was what really drew me in. I love this kind of stuff. I think I would have enjoyed this much less if it had been just a straight forward story.
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Post by Digi on Jul 6, 2020 19:31:38 GMT
FWIW that's clarified in subsequent episodes. The weird approach to chronology in this set definitely made it less enjoyable to me, though. I have to say the weird time skipping was what really drew me in. I love this kind of stuff. I think I would have enjoyed this much less if it had been just a straight forward story. I would usually agree, but I thought it was poorly done in this one. Instead of 'hey this chronology is confusing as hell, but I'm entertained so let's have some fun trying to figure it out' (ie: The Wrong Doctors), this was an exhausting exercise in 'I have no effing clue what is going on and I am not enjoying myself.'
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 6, 2020 20:05:13 GMT
Finished listening to this today. It’s an interesting synopsis, but felt the execution fell short. The first hour was poor, the tone was much too light and some of the dialogue didn’t sit right. And why couldn’t we have some sexual tension between the characters rather than skipping through fields hand-in-hand. Okay they weren’t skipping, but this relationship didn’t seem believable so I couldn’t immerse myself into the story. Also did anybody else notice an audio clip which seemed out of sequence? I did persevere with it, but definitely won’t be buying Human Frontier 2. Still haven't got past the first hour.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 6, 2020 20:11:39 GMT
Hmm. I might be one of the only ones here who seemed to have liked this. Yes, my mind was not blown and I have not made my mind up if I want to buy part two. But I do not see it as bad as many others do? As usual I am the odd one out it seems.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 6, 2020 20:17:19 GMT
More promotion!
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 6, 2020 20:28:52 GMT
I think I can wait a bit longer.
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Post by nudge on Jul 7, 2020 13:18:05 GMT
I’ve just relistened to the bit that I’m really confused by: 35 mins 12secs: Anna and Daisy are on a planet running from a creature This bit -------> 36 mins 9secs: Anna is now alone? Anna is told to reverse the course of the search pod if they want to reach the Human Frontier. Looking for Daisy’s transponder signal 41mins 38secs: Anna and Daisy are trying to get on the Lander craft So at 36 minutes 9 seconds why is Anna now alone, a flashback? I don’t understand the continuity of the story so assumed it could be an editing error. Did I zone out during a critical bit of the story? {Spoiler} Also we never found out what happened to the first Sear, or the flight crew that got abducted (I guess they are on Planet 5) and wish Mr Briggs would abstain from acting in his creations as it always sounds like him - I used to listen to the Big Finish podcast so can instantly recognise his voice. It just wasn’t a satisfying listen
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Post by mark687 on Jul 7, 2020 13:34:29 GMT
I’ve just relistened to the bit that I’m really confused by: 35 mins 12secs: Anna and Daisy are on a planet running from a creature This bit -------> 36 mins 9secs: Anna is now alone? Anna is told to reverse the course of the search pod if they want to reach the Human Frontier. Looking for Daisy’s transponder signal 41mins 38secs: Anna and Daisy are trying to get on the Lander craft So at 36 minutes 9 seconds why is Anna now alone, a flashback? I don’t understand the continuity of the story so assumed it could be an editing error. Did I zone out during a critical bit of the story? {Spoiler} Also we never found out what happened to the first Sear, or the flight crew that got abducted (I guess they are on Planet 5) and wish Mr Briggs would abstain from acting in his creations as it always sounds like him - I used to listen to the Big Finish podcast so can instantly recognise his voice. It just wasn’t a satisfying listen A dis-joined memory (probably intentional) Your Spoiler point again is probably international and plausible but again dropping mystery hints is all very well but they have to be dropped in a compelling way, these just weren't. Regards mark687
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