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Post by frosty on Jun 17, 2018 19:50:52 GMT
(I've looked everywhere for such a thread, but the search was no help. Sorry for the inconvenience if this thread needs to be replaced... ^^' )
So basically I have kind of a spoilery question of these stories that has been nagging me since I've listened to them.
{Spoiler} Regeneration seems to be nonexistent throughout most of the series, how come? Is there an explanation for that I missed?
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Post by sherlock on Jun 18, 2018 11:41:26 GMT
If I remember rightly the first story of Infernal Devices mentions the Daleks making Varga Plants regeneration proof, and the Eighth Doctor: Time War 1 mentions the Daleks incorporating regeneration inhibitors into their gun sticks. So essentially the Daleks have managed to engineer ways around regeneration.
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 18, 2018 18:41:58 GMT
The Eternity Cage is a story that’s built around a Time Lord being frozen mid-regeneration.
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Post by omega on Jun 19, 2018 8:13:48 GMT
If I remember rightly the first story of Infernal Devices mentions the Daleks making Varga Plants regeneration proof, and the Eighth Doctor: Time War 1 mentions the Daleks incorporating regeneration inhibitors into their gun sticks. So essentially the Daleks have managed to engineer ways around regeneration. The Daleks are master tacticians, and since they're up against an enemy that can come back after being shot, it makes sense they'd develop weapons to prevent it. Of course, if they can use regeneration to get a mole into the Time Lord ranks, that'd be even more dangerous. In the final battle of the Second War in Heaven, as depicted in the novel The Ancestor Cell, there was a Time Lord weapon powered by the energy released during regeneration. Additionally, Faction Paradox had engineered a virus that infected a Time Lord and grew stronger each time they regenerated and gave the Faction control over the infected Time Lord. For the War arc it was revealed that the Third Doctor died from being shot on a distant colony planet called Dust, instead of from radiation on Metabelis 3, and was infected with this virus. The TARDIS was able to hold the infection at bay until the Doctor's seventh regeneration, where shortly after the Eighth Doctor began encounters parts of the War from his personal future. At the end of Ancestor Cell all this is unwritten.
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Post by xlozdob on Jun 19, 2018 9:21:38 GMT
If I remember rightly the first story of Infernal Devices mentions the Daleks making Varga Plants regeneration proof, and the Eighth Doctor: Time War 1 mentions the Daleks incorporating regeneration inhibitors into their gun sticks. So essentially the Daleks have managed to engineer ways around regeneration. The Daleks are master tacticians, and since they're up against an enemy that can come back after being shot, it makes sense they'd develop weapons to prevent it. Of course, if they can use regeneration to get a mole into the Time Lord ranks, that'd be even more dangerous. In the final battle of the Second War in Heaven, as depicted in the novel The Ancestor Cell, there was a Time Lord weapon powered by the energy released during regeneration. Additionally, Faction Paradox had engineered a virus that infected a Time Lord and grew stronger each time they regenerated and gave the Faction control over the infected Time Lord. For the War arc it was revealed that the Third Doctor died from being shot on a distant colony planet called Dust, instead of from radiation on Metabelis 3, and was infected with this virus. The TARDIS was able to hold the infection at bay until the Doctor's seventh regeneration, where shortly after the Eighth Doctor began encounters parts of the War from his personal future. At the end of Ancestor Cell all this is unwritten. Sounds similar to the Pandora virus from the Gallifrey series. That could come back in one of the Time War ranges.
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Post by frosty on Jun 20, 2018 19:22:36 GMT
The Eternity Cage is a story that’s built around a Time Lord being frozen mid-regeneration. I remember that one. The major plot point was the regeneration there.
I remember though in one of the previous stories when they were I think sneaking into an enemy base one of the time lord stide characters just died and the basic idea of regeneration never even came up. - I kept expecting of him to show up again, but he did not. But yeah, the daleks being geniuses and building anti-regeneration weapons makes sense.
I admit it's been a few months since I've listened to these though, and I probably should have revisited the stories before opening this thread, it just has taken so long to find the right place to ask this.
Also haven't listened to Eight's Time War yet - but planning to. (Only just picked up the War Doctor ones in the previous sale. ^^' )
Thanks for the clarifications.
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Post by frosty on Jun 20, 2018 19:25:57 GMT
If I remember rightly the first story of Infernal Devices mentions the Daleks making Varga Plants regeneration proof, and the Eighth Doctor: Time War 1 mentions the Daleks incorporating regeneration inhibitors into their gun sticks. So essentially the Daleks have managed to engineer ways around regeneration. The Daleks are master tacticians, and since they're up against an enemy that can come back after being shot, it makes sense they'd develop weapons to prevent it. Of course, if they can use regeneration to get a mole into the Time Lord ranks, that'd be even more dangerous. In the final battle of the Second War in Heaven, as depicted in the novel The Ancestor Cell, there was a Time Lord weapon powered by the energy released during regeneration. Additionally, Faction Paradox had engineered a virus that infected a Time Lord and grew stronger each time they regenerated and gave the Faction control over the infected Time Lord. For the War arc it was revealed that the Third Doctor died from being shot on a distant colony planet called Dust, instead of from radiation on Metabelis 3, and was infected with this virus. The TARDIS was able to hold the infection at bay until the Doctor's seventh regeneration, where shortly after the Eighth Doctor began encounters parts of the War from his personal future. At the end of Ancestor Cell all this is unwritten. Wow, makes "The Ancestor Cell" sound like a book I want to pick up. I've been loving Cole's works anyway. Thank you!
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