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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 27, 2018 22:09:41 GMT
I am anxious to foster more open dialogue with the forum members that don't post on here but are registered. I am hopeful of shining a positive spotlight on them and encouraging them to express their thoughts and feelings on any and all of the topics on this forum. As I have said before on another thread we are all equal, no one is more or less important than the other we all demand the right to be respected no matter what. Their voices do deserve to absolutely be heard. I fully welcome an injection of fresh thoughts, constructive conversations, different perspectives and overall more fun .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 22:26:58 GMT
I am anxious to foster more open dialogue with the forum members that don't post on here but are registered. I am hopeful of shining a positive spotlight on them and encouraging them to express their thoughts and feelings on any and all of the topics on this forum. As I have said before on another thread we are all equal, no one is more or less important than the other we all demand the right to be respected no matter what. Their voices do deserve to absolutely be heard. I fully welcome an injection of fresh thoughts, constructive conversations, different perspectives and overall more fun . You get my vote. Also because you look like Benedict Bumbercatch.
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Post by number13 on Jul 28, 2018 0:26:11 GMT
Beyond that I would suggest that members of the updates club should be excluded from the running. They have a tendency to occasionally get carried away and mods may have to intervene in future, so I think it might be a potential conflict of interest if any of the updates club was a mod. Sorry if this causes offence, I am just being honest. I'm not sure who you consider 'the updates club' to be? I consider it a positive term, and I would include Mark, Omega, whovitt, aussiedoctorwhofan and formerly and more occasionally, myself. (Apologies to other less frequent update posters I haven't listed.) I can only repeat what I've said before, that the frequent and detailed updates are what drew me to the forum in the first place and they are still as valuable as ever. I don't use Twitter or Facebook and with the "Updates Club" at work I don't have to: DU gives me all the 'Doctor Who' and BF news I could possibly want, all in one place. It's priceless. I've said upthread that I don't wish to considered for Mod duties (nor did Mark in his post.) But Omega, whovitt and aussie are all asking to be considered and I think they should each be considered individually, as seriously as anyone else, and not excluded en bloc. (And just think, if they were all chosen, Updates Club would be on the verge of a Mods takeover - and (mad gleam in eyes) nozzing in ze vurld could stop us now! )
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Post by Timelord007 on Jul 28, 2018 4:58:29 GMT
I am anxious to foster more open dialogue with the forum members that don't post on here but are registered. I am hopeful of shining a positive spotlight on them and encouraging them to express their thoughts and feelings on any and all of the topics on this forum. As I have said before on another thread we are all equal, no one is more or less important than the other we all demand the right to be respected no matter what. Their voices do deserve to absolutely be heard. I fully welcome an injection of fresh thoughts, constructive conversations, different perspectives and overall more fun . You get my vote too Shane, your one of the nicest easiest to talk to members on the forum which makes you a excellent choice. We need
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Post by The Matt on Jul 28, 2018 5:38:00 GMT
Masterdoctor, Digi and Whovitt would get my vote. All fair and impartial and wouldn't use the position to further their own agendas
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Post by rran on Jul 28, 2018 6:58:51 GMT
Can I nominate Whovitt? Probably the friendliest face on the forum. I’ll second that, if Whovitt accepts, he has my support.
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Post by rran on Jul 28, 2018 7:45:14 GMT
If I had to choose only three - wolfie, whovitt and aussie it would be. If I got to pick a fourth candidate, it would be masterdoctor. Any of these would be fine with me. EDIT : Just to add a point, I feel Omega should be given a fair chance as well, rather than write him off. I’ve been a bit miffed with him in the past-correcting people’s posts, pointing out grammatical flaws etc without considering that English isn’t everyone’s first language, but I don’t see him do that anymore. So people do change, and let’s give everyone a fair chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 8:52:30 GMT
If I had to choose only three - wolfie, whovitt and aussie it would be. If I got to pick a fourth candidate, it would be masterdoctor. Any of these would be fine with me. EDIT : Just to add a point, I feel Omega should be given a fair chance as well, rather than write him off. I’ve been a bit miffed with him in the past-correcting people’s posts, pointing out grammatical flaws etc without considering that English isn’t everyone’s first language, but I don’t see him do that anymore. So people do change, and let’s give everyone a fair chance. A fair chance? We can only judge him on his forum behaviour. Sorry but no .He is not suitable.
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Post by rran on Jul 28, 2018 9:04:03 GMT
If I had to choose only three - wolfie, whovitt and aussie it would be. If I got to pick a fourth candidate, it would be masterdoctor. Any of these would be fine with me. EDIT : Just to add a point, I feel Omega should be given a fair chance as well, rather than write him off. I’ve been a bit miffed with him in the past-correcting people’s posts, pointing out grammatical flaws etc without considering that English isn’t everyone’s first language, but I don’t see him do that anymore. So people do change, and let’s give everyone a fair chance. A fair chance? We can only judge him on his forum behaviour. Sorry but no .He is not suitable. Well, you feel so. We’re all entitled to our opinions- you and me included I’m of the opinion everyone can be given a chance.
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Post by jasonward on Jul 28, 2018 9:44:43 GMT
If I had to choose only three - wolfie, whovitt and aussie it would be. If I got to pick a fourth candidate, it would be masterdoctor. Any of these would be fine with me. EDIT : Just to add a point, I feel Omega should be given a fair chance as well, rather than write him off. I’ve been a bit miffed with him in the past-correcting people’s posts, pointing out grammatical flaws etc without considering that English isn’t everyone’s first language, but I don’t see him do that anymore. So people do change, and let’s give everyone a fair chance. A fair chance? We can only judge him on his forum behaviour. Sorry but no .He is not suitable. I would suggest that if people have made their views clear, that arguing about the the point is not something we should do.
You've made your point, enough said.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 28, 2018 12:08:58 GMT
I am anxious to foster more open dialogue with the forum members that don't post on here but are registered. I am hopeful of shining a positive spotlight on them and encouraging them to express their thoughts and feelings on any and all of the topics on this forum. As I have said before on another thread we are all equal, no one is more or less important than the other we all demand the right to be respected no matter what. Their voices do deserve to absolutely be heard. I fully welcome an injection of fresh thoughts, constructive conversations, different perspectives and overall more fun . You get my vote too Shane, your one of the nicest easiest to talk to members on the forum which makes you a excellent choice. We need
Oh, thanks Timelord- very much so appreciated. I know we have had a few PM chats over the last few years given we are of the same age and have gone through similar dramas. You know me pretty well and know my position has never been "about me", but for the growth of this forum in nothing but positive and productive ways- no sleight of hand tricks, mind manipulations, agendas, ulterior motives, soap boxing etc.
Personally I absolutely love when someone brings up a different point of view I haven't explored and it has changed my mind. That is the best part of foruming- growth and expansion and the joy of discussing ideas collaboratively. Sound cheesy but it's true. Normal day to day life is hard, no need having that seep into the hobby that is Doctor Who/Big Finish ranges.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 12:12:55 GMT
A fair chance? We can only judge him on his forum behaviour. Sorry but no .He is not suitable. I would suggest that if people have made their views clear, that arguing about the the point is not something we should do.
You've made your point, enough said.
Not arguing. Debating. I feel strongly about this issue, but as you say...enough said.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 28, 2018 13:20:31 GMT
Here's a proposal, just putting it out there.
Maybe implement a probation period for this new venture, say 3 months (that is close to industry standard). That way you can monitor their actions, that also goes to what can loosely be described as "political promises", holding the new Moderators up to the standards they promise and promote. That may seem like a fair solution. That could be an option maybe, I am only speaking for myself when i say I wouldn't ask of others what I wouldn't do myself. That to me shows respect for all forum members.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jul 28, 2018 14:07:41 GMT
You get my vote too Shane, your one of the nicest easiest to talk to members on the forum which makes you a excellent choice. We need
Oh, thanks Timelord- very much so appreciated. I know we have had a few PM chats over the last few years given we are of the same age and have gone through similar dramas. You know me pretty well and know my position has never been "about me", but for the growth of this forum in nothing but positive and productive ways- no sleight of hand tricks, mind manipulations, agendas, ulterior motives, soap boxing etc.
Personally I absolutely love when someone brings up a different point of view I haven't explored and it has changed my mind. That is the best part of foruming- growth and expansion and the joy of discussing ideas collaboratively. Sound cheesy but it's true. Normal day to day life is hard, no need having that seep into the hobby that is Doctor Who/Big Finish ranges.
Your part my family bro, one of the nicest, easiest down to earth people I've met, no God Complex or ego just our Shane what you see is what you get.
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 28, 2018 15:21:06 GMT
Beyond that I would suggest that members of the updates club should be excluded from the running. They have a tendency to occasionally get carried away and mods may have to intervene in future, so I think it might be a potential conflict of interest if any of the updates club was a mod. Sorry if this causes offence, I am just being honest. I'm not sure who you consider 'the updates club' to be? I consider it a positive term, and I would include Mark, Omega, whovitt, aussiedoctorwhofan and formerly and more occasionally, myself. (Apologies to other less frequent update posters I haven't listed.) I can only repeat what I've said before, that the frequent and detailed updates are what drew me to the forum in the first place and they are still as valuable as ever. I don't use Twitter or Facebook and with the "Updates Club" at work I don't have to: DU gives me all the 'Doctor Who' and BF news I could possibly want, all in one place. It's priceless. I've said upthread that I don't wish to considered for Mod duties (nor did Mark in his post.) But Omega, whovitt and aussie are all asking to be considered and I think they should each be considered individually, as seriously as anyone else, and not excluded en bloc. (And just think, if they were all chosen, Updates Club would be on the verge of a Mods takeover - and (mad gleam in eyes) nozzing in ze vurld could stop us now! ) I have no issue with updates per se and if some folk want to have a race to post it first then it's all harmless fun. It's the duplicate updates that are irksome but no point in derailing this thread to rehash the points already coveered in the Lack of Moderation thread. It is disappointing that not everyone seems to have taken on board what was said in that thread and the pointless duplicates are still going on. Thursday's bf news item was posted on the updates thread at 9.18 by aussiedrwhofan. I have no problem with that whatsoever. However for some reason that is beyond me omega then posted it again at 9.20. I mean... why? Possibly I am being unfair in that I am tarring the whole of the updates club with the same brush. I accept that not all updaters are duplicaters but I tried to confine myself to talking in general terms about the updates club as opposed to naming names in order to avoid hurt feelings if possible. However i think that if the duplicate posting continues and other members complain - as more than one already has on the Lack of Moderation thread - then it is conceivable (I wouldn't put it any stronger than that) that the mods may have to take a look at it. And in that scenario it would be a potential conflict of interest if a mod was one of those being looked at. That's all I was thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:05:33 GMT
I'm not sure who you consider 'the updates club' to be? I consider it a positive term, and I would include Mark, Omega, whovitt, aussiedoctorwhofan and formerly and more occasionally, myself. (Apologies to other less frequent update posters I haven't listed.) I can only repeat what I've said before, that the frequent and detailed updates are what drew me to the forum in the first place and they are still as valuable as ever. I don't use Twitter or Facebook and with the "Updates Club" at work I don't have to: DU gives me all the 'Doctor Who' and BF news I could possibly want, all in one place. It's priceless. I've said upthread that I don't wish to considered for Mod duties (nor did Mark in his post.) But Omega, whovitt and aussie are all asking to be considered and I think they should each be considered individually, as seriously as anyone else, and not excluded en bloc. (And just think, if they were all chosen, Updates Club would be on the verge of a Mods takeover - and (mad gleam in eyes) nozzing in ze vurld could stop us now! ) I have no issue with updates per se and if some folk want to have a race to post it first then it's all harmless fun. It's the duplicate updates that are irksome but no point in derailing this thread to rehash the points already coveered in the Lack of Moderation thread. It is disappointing that not everyone seems to have taken on board what was said in that thread and the pointless duplicates are still going on. Thursday's bf news item was posted on the updates thread at 9.18 by aussiedrwhofan. I have no problem with that whatsoever. However for some reason that is beyond me omega then posted it again at 9.20. I mean... why? Possibly I am being unfair in that I am tarring the whole of the updates club with the same brush. I accept that not all updaters are duplicaters but I tried to confine myself to talking in general terms about the updates club as opposed to naming names in order to avoid hurt feelings if possible. However i think that if the duplicate posting continues and other members complain - as more than one already has on the Lack of Moderation thread - then it is conceivable (I wouldn't put it any stronger than that) that the mods may have to take a look at it. And in that scenario it would be a potential conflict of interest if a mod was one of those being looked at. That's all I was thinking. Very well put.
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Post by jasonward on Jul 28, 2018 19:00:14 GMT
It is disappointing that not everyone seems to have taken on board what was said in that thread and the pointless duplicates are still going on. Thursday's bf news item was posted on the updates thread at 9.18 by aussiedrwhofan. I have no problem with that whatsoever. However for some reason that is beyond me omega then posted it again at 9.20. I mean... why? Whilst I have no insight into what actually happened with those posts, the difference between 9:18 and 9:20 is ~120 seconds, that's easily less than the time needed to run a search, find no result and then create a new post, its perfectly possible that when Omega started to post, aussiedrwhofan's post didn't exist.
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Post by Ela on Jul 29, 2018 3:32:16 GMT
I would like this thread and the moderator nominations to not to become about the so-called "updates club". I think the idea of there being a club of updaters is a bit silly. I understand that those who participate are having fun with it, but it can start to look a bit exclusionary to those who are not participating. Those applicants for moderators who currently consider themselves members of the "updates club" need to keep that in mind. As a moderator, you do need to think more about how you are posting and how you are behaving on the forum, to a certain extent, as well as how you appear to newcomers. We want to make newcomers to the forum feel welcome, not make them feel that they can't participate unless they're part of some exclusive subgroup. To quote what lidar2 said, members of the updates club: ...have a tendency to occasionally get carried away... I don't think this excludes members of the the "updates club" applying to be moderators, but it's something to keep in mind as a moderator. As aussiedoctorwhofan said "Everyone" is part of the updating btw.. Just putting it out there. :-) No one member or group has dibs on posting updates. Anyone can post them, if they don't see them already posted. And, yes, sometimes two people will post close together, resulting in a duplicate. The one who posted later can delete their post if they see the same news a post or two above theirs. What Star Platinum posted about omega starting so many release threads and also being part of the "updates club" is also relevant and worth considering for all mod candidates: But that's where the problem is. a quick count of the doctor who first page at this moment shows me that 15 out of 26 topics are yours. With most if not all of those being discussion topics and news. As a member thats fine, you're fostering discussion. But as a moderator that carries with it some implications. To a new member, a moderator making those posts having then majority of them would almost look like those topics had been sanctioned. as if they're not official and thus not likely to last. Same issue with the news updates, being a moderator posting all of the updates would to some look like a power play. not to mention issues in the past with having posts deleted and posting things too early may cause friction within the moderating team itself. Just some thoughts worth considering from your fellow forum members.
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Post by kfbate on Jul 29, 2018 5:43:32 GMT
Aussiedoctorwhofan gets my vote in my opinion.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Jul 29, 2018 13:00:49 GMT
I'm not sure who you consider 'the updates club' to be? I consider it a positive term, and I would include Mark, Omega, whovitt, aussiedoctorwhofan and formerly and more occasionally, myself. (Apologies to other less frequent update posters I haven't listed.) I can only repeat what I've said before, that the frequent and detailed updates are what drew me to the forum in the first place and they are still as valuable as ever. I don't use Twitter or Facebook and with the "Updates Club" at work I don't have to: DU gives me all the 'Doctor Who' and BF news I could possibly want, all in one place. It's priceless. I've said upthread that I don't wish to considered for Mod duties (nor did Mark in his post.) But Omega, whovitt and aussie are all asking to be considered and I think they should each be considered individually, as seriously as anyone else, and not excluded en bloc. (And just think, if they were all chosen, Updates Club would be on the verge of a Mods takeover - and (mad gleam in eyes) nozzing in ze vurld could stop us now! ) I have no issue with updates per se and if some folk want to have a race to post it first then it's all harmless fun. It's the duplicate updates that are irksome but no point in derailing this thread to rehash the points already coveered in the Lack of Moderation thread. It is disappointing that not everyone seems to have taken on board what was said in that thread and the pointless duplicates are still going on. Thursday's bf news item was posted on the updates thread at 9.18 by aussiedrwhofan. I have no problem with that whatsoever. However for some reason that is beyond me omega then posted it again at 9.20. I mean... why? Possibly I am being unfair in that I am tarring the whole of the updates club with the same brush. I accept that not all updaters are duplicaters but I tried to confine myself to talking in general terms about the updates club as opposed to naming names in order to avoid hurt feelings if possible. However i think that if the duplicate posting continues and other members complain - as more than one already has on the Lack of Moderation thread - then it is conceivable (I wouldn't put it any stronger than that) that the mods may have to take a look at it. And in that scenario it would be a potential conflict of interest if a mod was one of those being looked at. That's all I was thinking. I thought the main problem with the "updates club" was not so much the duplicates but all the "I was first" or "I included something you didn't" posts, etc where they were focussed entirely on competing with each other rather than on actually providing information. I say the first rule of "updates club" should be "You don't talk about updates club!" (and maybe make that the second rule too in case some people forget)
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