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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 16, 2019 0:07:45 GMT
What characters, be they in books, movies, TV, comics etc. have you seen and made you think back to a particular incarnation, or just the broad concept, of The Doctor?
Easy one for me: Walter Bishop from Fringe. Mad scientist with a conflicted past who works for a government body, fighting supernatural phenomena, while retaining a strong child-like element and interest in all manner of wacky things, like growing ears in omelettes, or obsessing for days on the recipe for a perfect milkshake.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 3:17:11 GMT
Edward Woodward as Robert McCall from The Equalizer is a strong candidate for me. An idealist fleeing a troubled past by helping those who have nowhere else to turn. Occasionally, to his chagrin, his former associates press-gang him into performing errands for them. The biggest difference between the two characters is McCall carries a gun, but, notably, he only uses it in self-defence. He never fires first, not unless his life or the life of another is immediately threatened.
Morpheus from Neil Gaiman's The Sandman rings true to the more elemental versions of the Doctor like the Seventh. I suspect he's who the Doctor could have become without the humanising influence of his companions. He's deeply powerful, like an earthquake or a thunderstorm, but still vulnerable to certain... influences. It's difficult to tell what would happen if he were to die (well, "die"), whether the universe would take a noticeable hit or simply fill the void with something else.
Rintaro Okabe from Steins;Gate thinks he's the Doctor, but the visceral and chaotic nature of the fourth dimension puts him well out of his depth. He's a great case study in why the Doctor's status as a Time Lord is so important, actually. Why his understanding of how temporal mechanics works is vital. Your postman may be a lovely chap, tick all the expected boxes, but would you trust him to perform your open heart surgery?
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Post by mark687 on Feb 17, 2019 12:52:03 GMT
Star Trek= Old school Spock
Star Wars= Yoda
Buffy= Giles
Supernatural= Cass and Crowley
Marvel= Professor X and Magneto
NCIS Verse= Ducky and Hetty
Regards
mark687
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 17, 2019 12:53:12 GMT
The Pretender - "Jarod"
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Post by mrperson on Feb 18, 2019 5:37:50 GMT
Hmm...well, I'll parrot a comment made in another thread: basically, any fictional character who does what must be done for a greater good because it must be done, and does it despite personal cost or even if they get people they love killed in the process. A fictional character with an impossible will.
So, characters like Aragorn, or Roland of Gilead, or perhaps Galadriel who declined the Valar's pardon and stayed behind to fight the long defeat.
One comment regarding The Doctor and guns. Sure, he doesn't carry a gun (usually), but he'll build one if he needs it and kill when he must. And remember, until Moffat retconned the Time War's end, The Doctor has more blood on his hands than just about any other fictional character I can think of (however, I suppose we don't know everything the Master got up to off-screen and we don't know how many races Rassilon exterminated in the old days).
Further, even though Moffat changed that, the Doctor still did push that button in one version of reality. He may have saved the day later but he had no expectation of ever being able to do so.
He burned billions of people. It may have been for the best of reasons - saving his universe and, likely, the multiverse - but he still did it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 6:58:10 GMT
Hmm...well, I'll parrot a comment made in another thread: basically, any fictional character who does what must be done for a greater good because it must be done, and does it despite personal cost or even if they get people they love killed in the process. A fictional character with an impossible will. So, characters like Aragorn, or Roland of Gilead, or perhaps Galadriel who declined the Valar's pardon and stayed behind to fight the long defeat. One comment regarding The Doctor and guns. Sure, he doesn't carry a gun (usually), but he'll build one if he needs it and kill when he must. And remember, until Moffat retconned the Time War's end, The Doctor has more blood on his hands than just about any other fictional character I can think of (however, I suppose we don't know everything the Master got up to off-screen and we don't know how many races Rassilon exterminated in the old days). Further, even though Moffat changed that, the Doctor still did push that button in one version of reality. He may have saved the day later but he had no expectation of ever being able to do so. He burned billions of people. It may have been for the best of reasons - saving his universe and, likely, the multiverse - but he still did it. The determinator, yeah. It's why the cliffhanger to Androzani's third episode is so effective, it's essentially the distillation of everything that drives the Doctor's character, down to the moment. "I owe it to [...] try."
The Master is definitely up there circa Logopolis. Watching aboard the TARDIS from the outside, we see half the universe annihilated by the expansion of entropy. Traken is just one planet that's caught in the field. It's arguably televised Who's largest body count (attempted omnicide), but it comes in such a profoundly quiet scene, it's somehow easy to forget. That could make a rather interesting collection of stories actually; how each world deals with this scraping wound of darkness travelling across spacetime. |
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Post by constonks on Feb 20, 2019 4:47:21 GMT
The Master is definitely up there circa Logopolis. Watching aboard the TARDIS from the outside, we see half the universe annihilated by the expansion of entropy. Traken is just one planet that's caught in the field. It's arguably televised Who's largest body count (attempted omnicide), but it comes in such a profoundly quiet scene, it's somehow easy to forget. That could make a rather interesting collection of stories actually; how each world deals with this scraping wound of darkness travelling across spacetime. Totally off-topic, but wouldn't that be a neat Fifth Doctor Main Range trilogy? Three stories about the aftermath of Logopolis, set sometime before Four to Doomsday. Nyssa wanting to save everyone, Adric and the Doctor trying to predict/avert/reverse the effects of the entropy, Tegan just wanting to get home (and seeing a bit of herself in those who can't)... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 7:57:02 GMT
The Master is definitely up there circa Logopolis. Watching aboard the TARDIS from the outside, we see half the universe annihilated by the expansion of entropy. Traken is just one planet that's caught in the field. It's arguably televised Who's largest body count (attempted omnicide), but it comes in such a profoundly quiet scene, it's somehow easy to forget. That could make a rather interesting collection of stories actually; how each world deals with this scraping wound of darkness travelling across spacetime. Totally off-topic, but wouldn't that be a neat Fifth Doctor Main Range trilogy? Three stories about the aftermath of Logopolis, set sometime before Four to Doomsday. Nyssa wanting to save everyone, Adric and the Doctor trying to predict/avert/reverse the effects of the entropy, Tegan just wanting to get home (and seeing a bit of herself in those who can't)... Ooh. Jotting that down in my little brown book of future ideas (with your name next to it, so I don't forget).  |
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