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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 21:35:52 GMT
Alright... trying to maneuvre this thread without too many spoilers. Yeah, I do not mind spoilers too much, but try to at least keep a little bit of a surprise.
Just spend a wonderful evening with a nice hot cup of tea and my blankie while all the wet and cold was happening outside, listening to the first story. So, "Whisper". Well, yes, this is filler. Very much so. And yes, we had similar stories before.
But. This is wonderfully atmospheric. And in parts, it even gave me this wonderful chill down my spine despite tea and blankie.
And oh my god do I like the character interaction and especially Liv in this.
I get what members like shallacatop are saying. And in a rational level, you are right and I have a hard time arguing with you.
I do not even have real rational points I could make, I am purely talking from an emotional standpoint.
I just love the Eleven, as hammy and ridiculous as the character is. I loved him from the first moment.
And I just really like Liv and Helen.
And as I said before, I have no trouble telling the two apart, however, as I also have said before, I rely on identifying people by their voices on a daily basis since I have so much trouble telling faces apart, so I might just have a special ear for that.
As for the special point of interest in this story, namely the issue that Liv {Spoiler} has a gun. I agree with you guys that it just does not have the impact it should have or is handled in a more serious way. I am totally on the side of Liv in this one, however, and I think it would have been totally in the range of the character to hurt the Eleven. Mind, NOT kill him. There, the characterization was right, she would NEVER do that. But come on, if it had been me (and I have always pretty much identified with Liv), I would have shot the Eleven in the foot. Or the knee. Or the shoulder. Anywhere painful but not deadly. And in any case, death is just timelord for man flu anyways!
I think they really chickened out there. This could have been a bit more intense and severe than what we got in the end.
So in conclusion, yes, I liked the first story. It is not the best or most exciting or deep, but it is a nice start and sets up the character interactions.
But man, do I wish for the Master, any Master, to get their hands on the Eleven for some nice intimate torture scenes. Because I am totally with Liv on that one and this would make me feel vindicated.
More filler? 4 box sets in & we're getting filler still. The 8th Doctor deserves better.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 10, 2019 21:43:00 GMT
Alright... trying to maneuvre this thread without too many spoilers. Yeah, I do not mind spoilers too much, but try to at least keep a little bit of a surprise.
Just spend a wonderful evening with a nice hot cup of tea and my blankie while all the wet and cold was happening outside, listening to the first story. So, "Whisper". Well, yes, this is filler. Very much so. And yes, we had similar stories before.
But. This is wonderfully atmospheric. And in parts, it even gave me this wonderful chill down my spine despite tea and blankie.
And oh my god do I like the character interaction and especially Liv in this.
I get what members like shallacatop are saying. And in a rational level, you are right and I have a hard time arguing with you.
I do not even have real rational points I could make, I am purely talking from an emotional standpoint.
I just love the Eleven, as hammy and ridiculous as the character is. I loved him from the first moment.
And I just really like Liv and Helen.
And as I said before, I have no trouble telling the two apart, however, as I also have said before, I rely on identifying people by their voices on a daily basis since I have so much trouble telling faces apart, so I might just have a special ear for that.
As for the special point of interest in this story, namely the issue that Liv {Spoiler} has a gun. I agree with you guys that it just does not have the impact it should have or is handled in a more serious way. I am totally on the side of Liv in this one, however, and I think it would have been totally in the range of the character to hurt the Eleven. Mind, NOT kill him. There, the characterization was right, she would NEVER do that. But come on, if it had been me (and I have always pretty much identified with Liv), I would have shot the Eleven in the foot. Or the knee. Or the shoulder. Anywhere painful but not deadly. And in any case, death is just timelord for man flu anyways!
I think they really chickened out there. This could have been a bit more intense and severe than what we got in the end.
So in conclusion, yes, I liked the first story. It is not the best or most exciting or deep, but it is a nice start and sets up the character interactions.
But man, do I wish for the Master, any Master, to get their hands on the Eleven for some nice intimate torture scenes. Because I am totally with Liv on that one and this would make me feel vindicated.
More filler? 4 box sets in & we're getting filler still. The 8th Doctor deserves better. It was quite good though...
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 10, 2019 21:45:43 GMT
Most of the episodes aren’t even supposed to relate to the Ravenous arc, which is why we’re getting so much “filler”.
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Post by shallacatop on Oct 10, 2019 21:55:04 GMT
Most of the episodes aren’t even supposed to relate to the Ravenous arc, which is why we’re getting so much “filler”. I think that’s dependent of your interpretation of filler. Personally, I felt Whispers was of little substance in general, both as a standalone story or as part of the wider Ravenous arc, so I’d be inclined to say it’s filler, as in I felt it was a waste of a story. However, I did feel there was room to explore certain elements the story, such as Liv carrying a gun, but very little is made of it, contributing towards my overall feeling of it being of little substance. I think it would also be valid to call something filler if it’s a standalone in an otherwise arc heavy series. I don’t think this applies to Ravenous especially, though, so I agree with you there.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 10, 2019 22:00:27 GMT
Most of the episodes aren’t even supposed to relate to the Ravenous arc, which is why we’re getting so much “filler”. I think that’s dependent of your interpretation of filler. Personally, I felt Whispers was of little substance in general, both as a standalone story or as part of the wider Ravenous arc, so I’d be inclined to say it’s filler, as in I felt it was a waste of a story. However, I did feel there was room to explore certain elements the story, such as Liv carrying a gun, but very little is made of it, contributing towards my overall feeling of it being of little substance. I think it would also be valid to call something filler if it’s a standalone in an otherwise arc heavy series. I don’t think this applies to Ravenous especially, though, so I agree with you there. While I enjoyed Whisper myself, I’d agree that it probably is filler, although I’d argue that the majority of Ravenous isn’t really filler. Or at least the only stories that felt like they were just there to fill a gap to me, were Seizure (and there’s a valid reason in this case), LEGEND and then perhaps Whisper. Everything else felt like it had its place, even if it wasn’t arc heavy.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 11, 2019 0:58:08 GMT
I finished up the set. Random thoughts: Eric Roberts sounded more engaged this time out and his voice had a little more color to it. I didn't wince every time his Master spoke like his first time out. If I were ranking each set, I would say Ravenous 3 felt like the strongest of the four sets with volume 4 coming up just behind. That was a good cliffhanger dorney. Well played. It's funny that for a feature length adventure featuring Michelle Gomez and Derek Jacobi, I really wanted to hear Alex MacQueen in there as well. So moving on to Stranded and there isn't the change to the status quo that so many thought there would be. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not.
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Post by elkawho on Oct 11, 2019 2:00:13 GMT
I for one, like the small, stand-alone stories in these sets. They make it feel like we are getting a series of the EDAs in 4 big chunks. A series of stories which has an arc running through, however not necessarily within each episode. Some of the best stories have been these one-shots. A Life in The Day, The Red Lady, Absent Friends, How To Make A Killing In Time Travel, Companion Piece to name few that I particularly enjoy. I find complaining about giving a space for these kind of gems in the Eighth Doctor's range incredibly unproductive. I say, give me more!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 4:36:09 GMT
IT has just gotten dark and am just finishing off an episode of Gallifrey 6 i tend to not do Dalek stories after dark. Really? I guess that sounds pretty strange to me having grown up having to stay up late to watch DW on public TV. We didn't have daytime Daleks back in my day :-) Can you do Dark Shadows after dark? :-) Hahaha not FEAR...those bloody voices eventually get on my nerves🤪
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 7:09:52 GMT
Most of the episodes aren’t even supposed to relate to the Ravenous arc, which is why we’re getting so much “filler”. & that's one of my problems with these boxsets that has increased it seems with each one.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 11, 2019 8:28:22 GMT
Started on Planet of Dust. Random thought- what would actually happen if one of the companions decides to have a nice chill holiday in the TARDIS? Would the Doctor indeed fix the heating of the pool? Nah, in all seriousness, I know it is important for story reasons, but if it was real life, taking a break would certainly be an option?
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Post by barnabaslives on Oct 11, 2019 9:29:05 GMT
There really wasn't anything that felt like filler to me, especially the later stories. To me, the first story was atmospheric - foggy, spooky, sounded a lot like the promo clip looks. I think I sort of like the idea of the Ravenous lurking in the shadows as much as they did through the series, seems appropriate to their nature somehow, and I think it left a lot of welcome breathing room for the stories to involve other things, like meeting the person that Artron particles are named after (which I thought was fascinating) rather than being all about the Ravenous the whole time. Nothing wrong in my book with a mystery that slowly builds, either. I didn't think Liv with a gun was all that big of a plot point, but that seemed much like the proper perspective for that, like maybe a measure of how far things had understandably pushed her more than an ethical statement or anything else. I though she seemed a lot less full of annoying snark in this set than previously, much easier to relate to and sympathize with (and I had considerably less trouble telling Liv and Helen apart here than previously). {Spoiler} As I say, I think this set puts a lot of what came before into better perspective, it's a lot easier for me to tolerate any annoying qualities on Liv's part that came earlier as being part of a dramatic set up. It really did feel like her days were numbered with that, I was almost sure she wasn't going to survive this last set. I'm still not sure what to think of this team again in the next set apparently, but I am glad they survived and I suppose they're more of a sure thing than the unknown.
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Post by axelotl38 on Oct 11, 2019 11:03:06 GMT
{Spoiler} Overall, I thought Ravenous 4 was a decent capper to a decent series...but not a fantastic series. I think both Doom Coalition and Dark Eyes were perhaps more invigorating.
Whisper I thought was rather weak. Some fantastic ideas..but nothing done with them. There was very little plot structure, the ending was very rushed and sudden. I think Fitton's a fanbloodytastic writer when he's given the room to flesh out his ideas. But within the confines of one hour, it's harder to have a fleshed out plot. He's brimming with ideas and no ability to give them all the attention they deserve so instead we get broad strokes.
Planet of Dust was definitely better, and the use of Beevers was brilliantly done. Again, perhaps could've been longer to allow more fleshing of ideas, but was otherwise done remarkably well.
The Day of the Master: Brilliantly told, tying up the Ravenous arc rather well (and bringing back Artron from Salzburg was inspired). If anything, it was perhaps a step too close to being a deus ex, but I was willing to accept it. The use of the Master's, finally revealing where MacQueen comes in, the use of Roberts with 8, the Masters together, brilliant. And I have to give special commendation to Mark Bonnar's performance. Some feel that perhaps The Eleven overstayed his welcome within the sets, but there's no denying Bonnar did extraordinarily. His death scene was genuinely beautiful, with no other word to describe it. The music, his performance. In that moment, despite knowing he's y'know, a really evil dude, I genuinely felt sad for him. He's not just evil, he's pursued by his own demons and his own worst enemy (himself). The music, his performance, genuinely made me well up which is something I never thought I'd say.
So overall the set was pretty good, but in general I just feel...I dunno. Ravenous as a series lacked that edge that Doom Coalition did so well. Liv was reduced from a very comlpex character into a snark machine, Helen still didn't seem to get heaps of insight. (But in saying that, based off what we know of Stranded, I think that could very easily change). I'm not too sure if it's just a case that we need a break from the sets, or perhaps more integration of writers throughout (though certainly have Dorney and Fitton there to shape things), or perhaps just too long with the one TARDIS team. But...there's so much potential and I just think we need that bit more of a push to turn a perfectly good series into another fantastic series.
(Not to sound overly negative, I still genuinely enjoyed the sets. I just think there's so much potential that could've been expanded upon. Whisper, LEGEND, Their Finest Hour etc. The brilliance is there, it just needs to be mined that bit more. I think the 1-hour format is genuinely starting to hinder the range. I think perhaps more two-hour stories for example could work wonders.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 11, 2019 15:14:38 GMT
{Spoiler} As there's been a discussion as to which Master is numbered what, I read on the TARDIS fandom site that there is a publishes story that enumerates how many masters there have been, so it's 'simply' a case of identifying which is which
{Spoiler} tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Girl_Power!_(short_story) Born, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Took over some bloke's body, Died, Died, Died, Became a human, Stopped being a human, Died, Died, Became a woman, Ruled!
{Spoiler} I reckon that must work out as 1 Born, Died 2 Died 3 Died 4 Died 5 Died 6 Died 7 Died 8 Died 9 Died 10 Died 11 Died 12 Died 13 Died 14 Took over some bloke's body 15 Died 16 Died 17 Died 18 Became a human, Stopped being a human, Died 19 Died 20 Became a woman, Ruled!
I don't think there's enough Masters for 14 to be Anthony Ainley, so I suggest that's Eric Roberts (it's worth noting that Tremas's body got younger but Bruce's stayed the same, so the latter is more of a takeover but the former closer to a merger). Beyond that, better fans than me can struggle to identify the others! (I can spot David Jacobi and John Simm, but the rest are up for discussion, I suspect). {Spoiler} Rule #2 - the Master lies.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 11, 2019 15:58:27 GMT
{Spoiler} As there's been a discussion as to which Master is numbered what, I read on the TARDIS fandom site that there is a publishes story that enumerates how many masters there have been, so it's 'simply' a case of identifying which is which
{Spoiler} tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Girl_Power!_(short_story) Born, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Died, Took over some bloke's body, Died, Died, Died, Became a human, Stopped being a human, Died, Died, Became a woman, Ruled!
{Spoiler} I reckon that must work out as 1 Born, Died 2 Died 3 Died 4 Died 5 Died 6 Died 7 Died 8 Died 9 Died 10 Died 11 Died 12 Died 13 Died 14 Took over some bloke's body 15 Died 16 Died 17 Died 18 Became a human, Stopped being a human, Died 19 Died 20 Became a woman, Ruled!
I don't think there's enough Masters for 14 to be Anthony Ainley, so I suggest that's Eric Roberts (it's worth noting that Tremas's body got younger but Bruce's stayed the same, so the latter is more of a takeover but the former closer to a merger). Beyond that, better fans than me can struggle to identify the others! (I can spot David Jacobi and John Simm, but the rest are up for discussion, I suspect). {Spoiler} Rule #2 - the Master lies. {At a guess I’d say it’s something like this:} Born, Died (First Master) Died, (Second Master) Died, (Third Master) Died, (Fourth Master) Died, (Fifth Master) Died, (Sixth Master) Died, (Seventh Master) Died, (Eighth Master) Died, (Ninth Master) Died, (Tenth Master) Died, (Eleventh Master) Died, (Twelfth Master) Died, (Thirteenth Master - Ainley in First Frontier) Took over some bloke's body, (Bruce) Died, (Thirteenth Master - Beevers in Planet of Dust) Died, (Fourteenth Master - Macqueen) Died, (Fifteenth Master - Titan Comics Time War Child) Became a human, Stopped being a human, Died (Sixteenth Master - Jacobi) Died, (Seventeenth Master - Simm) Became a woman, Ruled! (Eighteenth Master - Gomez)
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Post by mbt66 on Oct 11, 2019 19:10:52 GMT
Alright... trying to maneuvre this thread without too many spoilers. Yeah, I do not mind spoilers too much, but try to at least keep a little bit of a surprise.
Just spend a wonderful evening with a nice hot cup of tea and my blankie while all the wet and cold was happening outside, listening to the first story. So, "Whisper". Well, yes, this is filler. Very much so. And yes, we had similar stories before.
But. This is wonderfully atmospheric. And in parts, it even gave me this wonderful chill down my spine despite tea and blankie.
And oh my god do I like the character interaction and especially Liv in this.
I get what members like shallacatop are saying. And in a rational level, you are right and I have a hard time arguing with you.
I do not even have real rational points I could make, I am purely talking from an emotional standpoint.
I just love the Eleven, as hammy and ridiculous as the character is. I loved him from the first moment.
And I just really like Liv and Helen.
And as I said before, I have no trouble telling the two apart, however, as I also have said before, I rely on identifying people by their voices on a daily basis since I have so much trouble telling faces apart, so I might just have a special ear for that.
As for the special point of interest in this story, namely the issue that Liv {Spoiler} has a gun. I agree with you guys that it just does not have the impact it should have or is handled in a more serious way. I am totally on the side of Liv in this one, however, and I think it would have been totally in the range of the character to hurt the Eleven. Mind, NOT kill him. There, the characterization was right, she would NEVER do that. But come on, if it had been me (and I have always pretty much identified with Liv), I would have shot the Eleven in the foot. Or the knee. Or the shoulder. Anywhere painful but not deadly. And in any case, death is just timelord for man flu anyways!
I think they really chickened out there. This could have been a bit more intense and severe than what we got in the end.
So in conclusion, yes, I liked the first story. It is not the best or most exciting or deep, but it is a nice start and sets up the character interactions.
But man, do I wish for the Master, any Master, to get their hands on the Eleven for some nice intimate torture scenes. Because I am totally with Liv on that one and this would make me feel vindicated.
I have only listened to this first story...loved the set up...not so keen on the resolution. But I agree I was expecting Liv to use the gun. I kept waiting for the bang! Perhaps not even shoot the Eleven, but to make the listener wonder, if only for a moment, if she had. Plus I felt she needed a release, that squeezing that trigger would have given. During that scene I did wonder if this would be how Liv left the Tardis? She, understandably, shoots the Eleven and the Doctor says he cannot have her travelling with him anymore.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 11, 2019 19:14:03 GMT
Alright... trying to maneuvre this thread without too many spoilers. Yeah, I do not mind spoilers too much, but try to at least keep a little bit of a surprise.
Just spend a wonderful evening with a nice hot cup of tea and my blankie while all the wet and cold was happening outside, listening to the first story. So, "Whisper". Well, yes, this is filler. Very much so. And yes, we had similar stories before.
But. This is wonderfully atmospheric. And in parts, it even gave me this wonderful chill down my spine despite tea and blankie.
And oh my god do I like the character interaction and especially Liv in this.
I get what members like shallacatop are saying. And in a rational level, you are right and I have a hard time arguing with you.
I do not even have real rational points I could make, I am purely talking from an emotional standpoint.
I just love the Eleven, as hammy and ridiculous as the character is. I loved him from the first moment.
And I just really like Liv and Helen.
And as I said before, I have no trouble telling the two apart, however, as I also have said before, I rely on identifying people by their voices on a daily basis since I have so much trouble telling faces apart, so I might just have a special ear for that.
As for the special point of interest in this story, namely the issue that Liv {Spoiler} has a gun. I agree with you guys that it just does not have the impact it should have or is handled in a more serious way. I am totally on the side of Liv in this one, however, and I think it would have been totally in the range of the character to hurt the Eleven. Mind, NOT kill him. There, the characterization was right, she would NEVER do that. But come on, if it had been me (and I have always pretty much identified with Liv), I would have shot the Eleven in the foot. Or the knee. Or the shoulder. Anywhere painful but not deadly. And in any case, death is just timelord for man flu anyways!
I think they really chickened out there. This could have been a bit more intense and severe than what we got in the end.
So in conclusion, yes, I liked the first story. It is not the best or most exciting or deep, but it is a nice start and sets up the character interactions.
But man, do I wish for the Master, any Master, to get their hands on the Eleven for some nice intimate torture scenes. Because I am totally with Liv on that one and this would make me feel vindicated.
I have only listened to this first story...loved the set up...not so keen on the resolution. But I agree I was expecting Liv to use the gun. I kept waiting for the bang! Perhaps not even shoot the Eleven, but to make the listener wonder, if only for a moment, if she had. Plus I felt she needed a release, that squeezing that trigger would have given. During that scene I did wonder if this would be how Liv left the Tardis? She, understandably, shoots the Eleven and the Doctor says he cannot have her travelling with him anymore. Now THAT would be a great idea!
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 11, 2019 20:28:57 GMT
Finished Planet of Dust. I really liked this one. One reason- the Eleven. This is a wonderfully exciting adventure and the Eleven really owns this story. {Spoiler} It was always pretty clear that he did not change for the good. The question was- what form would his betrayal take? I got really excited in anticipation. And honestly, I absolutely loved him in this. He is utterly victorious and he feels like the terrible threat he is supposed to be instead of the sideline comedic villain he sadly sometimes had become. This is the Eleven we hopefully meet again in his showdown with 7! He even out- hams the Master and the poor naive Doctor. And here is one Point of critique for this otherwise great story- the Master gets defeated too easily and it really was a bit anti- climatic having him eaten. This is the Master we are talking about! However, knowing the Master, this will of course not be the end of the story. Now I really hope for a great showdown and the wrath of the Master crushing the Eleven. And the excitement and pleasure for me will be to see how ithis plays out:D Otherwise... I felt really sorry for the poor Doctor. {Spoiler} First having his best frenemy eaten and then his TARDIS. The psychic feedback is not only painful for him, but also for me as a listener. And of course, the Masters ship can never make up for the old girl.
This story has me really excited. I am curious how this will end. But I think I will wait with the conclusion, otherwise I won‘t be able to catch any sleep, because of all the excitement building up in my system... and I have a Convention to attend to tomorrow, too.
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Post by elkawho on Oct 11, 2019 21:16:13 GMT
Alright... trying to maneuvre this thread without too many spoilers. Yeah, I do not mind spoilers too much, but try to at least keep a little bit of a surprise.
Just spend a wonderful evening with a nice hot cup of tea and my blankie while all the wet and cold was happening outside, listening to the first story. So, "Whisper". Well, yes, this is filler. Very much so. And yes, we had similar stories before.
But. This is wonderfully atmospheric. And in parts, it even gave me this wonderful chill down my spine despite tea and blankie.
And oh my god do I like the character interaction and especially Liv in this.
I get what members like shallacatop are saying. And in a rational level, you are right and I have a hard time arguing with you.
I do not even have real rational points I could make, I am purely talking from an emotional standpoint.
I just love the Eleven, as hammy and ridiculous as the character is. I loved him from the first moment.
And I just really like Liv and Helen.
And as I said before, I have no trouble telling the two apart, however, as I also have said before, I rely on identifying people by their voices on a daily basis since I have so much trouble telling faces apart, so I might just have a special ear for that.
As for the special point of interest in this story, namely the issue that Liv {Spoiler} has a gun. I agree with you guys that it just does not have the impact it should have or is handled in a more serious way. I am totally on the side of Liv in this one, however, and I think it would have been totally in the range of the character to hurt the Eleven. Mind, NOT kill him. There, the characterization was right, she would NEVER do that. But come on, if it had been me (and I have always pretty much identified with Liv), I would have shot the Eleven in the foot. Or the knee. Or the shoulder. Anywhere painful but not deadly. And in any case, death is just timelord for man flu anyways!
I think they really chickened out there. This could have been a bit more intense and severe than what we got in the end.
So in conclusion, yes, I liked the first story. It is not the best or most exciting or deep, but it is a nice start and sets up the character interactions.
But man, do I wish for the Master, any Master, to get their hands on the Eleven for some nice intimate torture scenes. Because I am totally with Liv on that one and this would make me feel vindicated.
I have only listened to this first story...loved the set up...not so keen on the resolution. But I agree I was expecting Liv to use the gun. I kept waiting for the bang! Perhaps not even shoot the Eleven, but to make the listener wonder, if only for a moment, if she had. Plus I felt she needed a release, that squeezing that trigger would have given. During that scene I did wonder if this would be how Liv left the Tardis? She, understandably, shoots the Eleven and the Doctor says he cannot have her travelling with him anymore. That's what I thought too. She didn't even have to shoot him, just get close to shooting him.
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Post by constonks on Oct 11, 2019 21:53:21 GMT
Master Chronology I'm going with - 1. Born, Died, (Hughes / Dreyfus?) 2. Died, 3. Died, 4. Died, 5. Died, 6. Died, 7. Died, 8. Died, 9. Died, 10. Died, 11. Died, 12. Died, (Delgado??) 13. Died, (Beevers / Ainley / Rathbone / Tipple) 13A. Took over some bloke's body, (Roberts) 13B. Died, (Beevers) --New life cycle-- 14. Died, (Macqueen) 15. Died, (War Child, Titan Comics) 16. Became a human, Stopped being a human, Died, (Jacobi) 17. Died, (Simm) 18. Became a woman, Ruled! (Missy)
After all, death does not necessarily equal regeneration!
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Post by randomcomments on Oct 11, 2019 23:31:53 GMT
Some thoughts (spoilers for the whole set): I can't believe they didn't sneak a line from MacQueen in there. McKenzie, too, but it's more understandable in her case, since it isn't her story. It's War-->Nine all over again!
I'm sure I'll be more excited when the details for the next sets are more fully revealed, but I'm really not feeling this companion set. Liv is increasingly one-note, and Helen is nearly as blank-feeling as Bliss often feels. (Also, count me among those who scramble their voices on occasion).
I would be here for more Roberts at some point, though, and he does sound like he's getting more comfortable with the work. And Gomez gives a suitably mad performance.
I did enjoy the stories for the most part.
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