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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 9, 2021 15:54:35 GMT
I'm not convinced by these, if I'm honest. There is very much a scraping the barrel feel about them for me. I like the Lost Stories and I'd be up for more, but if there aren't any, then best let the concept rest. As has been said above these are more Unbounds or first drafts than Lost Stories. Maybe I'm being harsh on the Lucoratti script - I imagine it will be very different to the TV version, probably enough to justify its release. But I really am dubious about the point of the 1st draft Genesis. The fact than 2 of my favourite BF writers are attached to them (Morris & Guerrier) gives me confidence they will be good and, to be frank, I'm an addict so I will buy them. I just feel that if BF want to do more Season 12 crew, then they should do original stories. Or if they want to do Lost Stories then they should do some genuinely lost stories that were never produced at all in any form - I can think of 3 that exist and would be available (subject to agreement with the writers) - David Haliwell's Attack of the Mind, Bidmead's version of Trial eps 9-12 and Children of January. What we have announced here just seems to fall between 2 stools. My thoughts exactly, apart from the buying them bit lol
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Post by ollychops on Aug 9, 2021 15:57:56 GMT
Yeah... not convinced by this. Return was fine as a one-off, but to me, first drafts don't count as "lost stories". Like others have said, it seems like scraping the bottom of the barrel. If there aren't any more stories with enough content to make them into audios, maybe they should just end the range instead of moving onto first drafts of already existing stories.
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 9, 2021 15:59:03 GMT
I wonder if the Lucoratti script will be the original 6 part version (before it was cut to 4 parts and The Sontaran Experiment brought in) and if the 3 Lost Stories Ark-Genesis-Return will fit together coherently as an alternative season 12 as it was originally intended.
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 9, 2021 15:59:56 GMT
If we're now doing 1st drafts, is there any chance of Saward's Trial part 14?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 16:10:34 GMT
I wonder if the Lucoratti script will be the original 6 part version (before it was cut to 4 parts and The Sontaran Experiment brought in) and if the 3 Lost Stories Ark-Genesis-Return will fit together coherently as an alternative season 12 as it was originally intended. Two discs so probably not
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 9, 2021 16:10:43 GMT
If we're now doing 1st drafts, is there any chance of Saward's Trial part 14? Anything is possible now, they could literally take any first draft. Such a bizarre idea. Especially given the advancing age of Tom, it seems like a waste of his precious time.
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 9, 2021 16:14:23 GMT
If we're now doing 1st drafts, is there any chance of Saward's Trial part 14? Anything is possible now, they could literally take any first draft. Such a bizarre idea. Especially given the advancing age of Tom, it seems like a waste of his precious time. I was being a bit tongue in cheek - I imagine Colin would refuse to do it. Might work better as a BBC audio renovelisation
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Post by Chakoteya on Aug 9, 2021 16:25:39 GMT
Something to keep Tom occupied at home. I'm all in favour of that. Original rejected drafts are technically lost, I suppose. Dreading Hodiac though... That really is the bottom of the barrel getting a hole scraped in it.
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Post by grinch on Aug 9, 2021 16:33:36 GMT
Eh. This doesn’t really do it for me but I guess this might be the only option if we are to continue the Lost Stories range.
Personally, I’d be more invested in seeing more Comic Strips Adaptations but considering the sales of the first set I doubt we will get that anytime soon.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 9, 2021 16:44:08 GMT
Eh. This doesn’t really do it for me but I guess this might be the only option if we are to continue the Lost Stories range. Personally, I’d be more invested in seeing more Comic Strips Adaptations but considering the sales of the first set I doubt we will get that anytime soon. Yes or maybe just bring back Sharon Davies as a companion.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 9, 2021 16:44:30 GMT
Yeah, I'm with Lidar on this one - I don't doubt Johnny and Simon will do solid work, like always, but I just don't see a real point here. Revenge being bad gave something for Return to rise from, but Ark and Genesis? Lewis Griffer's nuts version of Pyramids of Mars with the evil seeds would be more of its own entity by comparison to these.
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Post by cwm on Aug 9, 2021 17:04:05 GMT
If we're now doing 1st drafts, is there any chance of Saward's Trial part 14? I would imagine the chances of Colin agreeing to participate in that aren't too high.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 17:23:09 GMT
If we're now doing 1st drafts, is there any chance of Saward's Trial part 14? I would imagine the chances of Colin agreeing to participate in that aren't too high. No need when Jacob Dudman is here!
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Post by dorney on Aug 9, 2021 17:40:37 GMT
First draft scripts are now renamed lost stories? First drafts are often called first drafts for a reason. Not for me this one & seems a strange thing to do. I'd prefer new original stories with this team. The existence of these don’t preclude the possibility of the latter.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 9, 2021 17:57:41 GMT
First draft scripts are now renamed lost stories? First drafts are often called first drafts for a reason. Not for me this one & seems a strange thing to do. I'd prefer new original stories with this team. The existence of these don’t preclude the possibility of the latter. I know. I was just stating my preference.
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Post by dorney on Aug 9, 2021 18:08:02 GMT
The existence of these don’t preclude the possibility of the latter. I know. I was just stating my preference. Sure, I get that. And it’s a perfectly fine preference to have. Just saying that’s it’s best not to think of it in those terms as these are basically bonuses.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 9, 2021 18:20:06 GMT
I know. I was just stating my preference. Sure, I get that. And it’s a perfectly fine preference to have. Just saying that’s it’s best not to think of it in those terms as these are basically bonuses. Maybe. But not to be morbid Tom is not getting any younger. Any of his precious time he spends on these is time he could have been spending on something brand new.
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Post by dorney on Aug 9, 2021 18:30:17 GMT
Sure, I get that. And it’s a perfectly fine preference to have. Just saying that’s it’s best not to think of it in those terms as these are basically bonuses. Maybe. But not to be morbid Tom is not getting any younger. Any of his precious time he spends on these is time he could have been spending on something brand new. That’s not how the scheduling of these things work. If these weren’t made, there wouldn’t have been anything else in their place.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 9, 2021 18:34:08 GMT
Maybe. But not to be morbid Tom is not getting any younger. Any of his precious time he spends on these is time he could have been spending on something brand new. That’s not how the scheduling of these things work. If these weren’t made, there wouldn’t have been anything else in their place. The fact is Baker is 87. His time is limited.
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Post by redsharkJason on Aug 9, 2021 18:38:51 GMT
Wow, inexpensive pricing - £15 for the 4 disc Ark one or £25 for both sets with a reasonable £6 international shipping rate. Especially considering that goods should be more dear almost 2 years down the road when these 2 products are released.
A different take on classic stories that include the magnificent Tom Baker...no messing around here, this bundle offering is a definite purchase for me!
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