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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 2, 2022 1:50:38 GMT
Yes.. And then the traffic chaos when everyone tries to download it at once..
:-)
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Post by theillusiveman on Feb 2, 2022 9:34:45 GMT
Yes.. And then the traffic chaos when everyone tries to download it at once.. :-) Trailer hasnt even be uploaded first thats weird surely they would want to hype its imminent release
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 3, 2022 2:31:51 GMT
Or they're referencing those weirdos fans who spend every day of the month hoping to see the release, refreshing the webpage sometimes multiple times daily. Not that I'd know anything about those people, nosireebob.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 3, 2022 3:18:07 GMT
Or they're referencing those weirdos fans who spend every day of the month hoping to see the release, refreshing the webpage sometimes multiple times daily. Not that I'd know anything about those people, nosireebob. Oh it's a Big thing...
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Post by mark687 on Feb 4, 2022 16:06:50 GMT
Trailer Online
Regards
mark687
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Post by antartiks on Feb 4, 2022 16:27:25 GMT
I wonder if I'll ever get used to that "For the love of stories" motto. Everytime I keep expecting Briggs to say "For the love of God" and it's really unnerving.
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Post by Max The Autist on Feb 4, 2022 19:41:55 GMT
So will there be individual story covers for this one? It would be kinda weird for the series to just suddenly stop doing those for the fourth installment. I mean, not doing it in series 2 wouldn't be all that weird but stopping now seems random?
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Post by masterdoctor on Feb 4, 2022 19:43:24 GMT
So will there be individual story covers for this one? It would be kinda weird for the series to just suddenly stop doing those for the fourth installment. I mean, not doing it in series 2 wouldn't be all that weird but stopping now seems random? I imagine this and the other 4 volumes will have individual cover art as they are being released on Vinyl and all of them have had individual cover art for each story so…
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Post by cwm on Feb 4, 2022 20:06:59 GMT
This one still has individual cases for each CD, so it'll definitely have individual story covers. Series 2 is in jewel cases so won't have individual cover art.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 4, 2022 21:22:59 GMT
I wonder if I'll ever get used to that "For the love of stories" motto. Everytime I keep expecting Briggs to say "For the love of God" and it's really unnerving. It’s a poor slogan to begin with, but it’s especially painful at the front of the stories. I swear it’s gotten a couple of seconds longer since it was first used and they put it at the front of every episode of the latest Rory set!
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Post by antartiks on Feb 4, 2022 22:47:18 GMT
I wonder if I'll ever get used to that "For the love of stories" motto. Everytime I keep expecting Briggs to say "For the love of God" and it's really unnerving. It’s a poor slogan to begin with, but it’s especially painful at the front of the stories. I swear it’s gotten a couple of seconds longer since it was first used and they put it at the front of every episode of the latest Rory set! I feel kinda sorry for Big Finish, knowing they actually paid money for such a - in my opinion of course - bland slogan. But I guess they like it, otherwise they wouldn't be using it so much now. Good for them.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 5, 2022 2:15:30 GMT
What, exactly, was wrong with “we love stories”?
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Post by Max The Autist on Feb 5, 2022 3:23:54 GMT
What, exactly, was wrong with “we love stories”? I STG they must have had some legal problem with 'we love stories' otherwise I have ZERO explanation. Especially as to why they haven't changed or changed back since NOBODY likes it XD
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Feb 5, 2022 14:48:00 GMT
It’s probably just general business rebranding. I doubt there was even anything in particular wrong with We Love Stories.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 5, 2022 14:56:33 GMT
It’s probably just general business rebranding. I doubt there was even anything in particular wrong with We Love Stories. Apparently "We Love Stories" is a statement on intent/confirmation to an existing Customer base "For the Love of Stories" is a more general/gentle invitation to New Customers. Regards mark687
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 6, 2022 7:10:15 GMT
God forbid they try to invite new customers by, I dunno, lowering prices. Even if we accept that the new stuff is already priced as low as it can go, that doesn't really apply to 10+ year old content.
EDIT: I wonder if BF is even aware of just how many fans casually recommend pirating their content due to how prohibitively expensive it is to new and (especially) younger fans? There are ways to combat piracy while simultaneously growing your consumer base, but sloganeering ain't one of 'em.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 6, 2022 7:56:09 GMT
God forbid they try to invite new customers by, I dunno, lowering prices. Even if we accept that the new stuff is already priced as low as it can go, that doesn't really apply to 10+ year old content. EDIT: I wonder if BF is even aware of just how many fans casually recommend pirating their content due to how prohibitively expensive it is to new and (especially) younger fans? There are ways to combat piracy while simultaneously growing your consumer base, but sloganeering ain't one of 'em. Completely agree. I’ve mentioned it so many times now, but there’s half a dozen sets they could easily put on a permanently reduced download price of £9.99 that are not only great in their own right, but could naturally lead and cross over into other ranges. As for pirating, is it that prolific for Big Finish? I don’t doubt it exists, but BF is a niche product to begin with. It’d require someone to upload that and then spread word they’ve done it. I can’t see them attracting that many downloads and I’m not sure how they’d even quantify that as impacting. People who pirate are very rarely going to be actual customers in the first place. It just feels like it’s an easy excuse to say it’s impacting, without being able to quantify how it is. I’ve certainly never seen someone recommend they acquire an audio via illegal means.
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Post by pdt on Feb 6, 2022 8:43:30 GMT
As for pirating, is it that prolific for Big Finish? In a word: yes. They've indicated in the past that they lose three quarters of all potential revenue to piracy. Now, I don't buy the notion that every - or even most - illegal downloader would've bought the product, but that's still several times as many people torrenting etc than actually purchase the things. Nick Briggs has always maintained that the Sapphire and Steel range was directly killed off by piracy.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 6, 2022 8:59:06 GMT
As for pirating, is it that prolific for Big Finish? In a word: yes. They've indicated in the past that they lose three quarters of all potential revenue to piracy. Now, I don't buy the notion that every - or even most - illegal downloader would've bought the product, but that's still several times as many people torrenting etc than actually purchase the things. Nick Briggs has always maintained that the Sapphire and Steel range was directly killed off by piracy. Again, I’m not really sure how on Earth they could quantify that impact. It’s easy to say, but I’m not sure how easy it is to prove. Those pirating are not going to purchase the product to begin with; that’s not lost revenue. I’m not saying it’s not an issue for Big Finish, I remember in Doctor Forever series of documentaries in the DVD range that people went up wanting copied, er, copies signed at conventions and stuff. That struck me as something that sticks in the mind, rather than a regular occurrence, though. They clearly have their methods of calculating if they can confidently say they lose three quarters of revenue. They also clearly had their own methods when deciding to make 10,000 units of their limited edition releases, getting an external marketing team to come up with a sloppy slogan, and getting a website created that seemingly can’t handle gifting or any sort of scalability… Essentially, I’m not often convinced about their statements or findings.
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Post by smith11 on Feb 6, 2022 9:56:20 GMT
In a word: yes. They've indicated in the past that they lose three quarters of all potential revenue to piracy. Now, I don't buy the notion that every - or even most - illegal downloader would've bought the product, but that's still several times as many people torrenting etc than actually purchase the things. Nick Briggs has always maintained that the Sapphire and Steel range was directly killed off by piracy. Again, I’m not really sure how on Earth they could quantify that impact. It’s easy to say, but I’m not sure how easy it is to prove. Those pirating are not going to purchase the product to begin with; that’s not lost revenue. I’m not saying it’s not an issue for Big Finish, I remember in Doctor Forever series of documentaries in the DVD range that people went up wanting copied, er, copies signed at conventions and stuff. That struck me as something that sticks in the mind, rather than a regular occurrence, though. They clearly have their methods of calculating if they can confidently say they lose three quarters of revenue. They also clearly had their own methods when deciding to make 10,000 units of their limited edition releases, getting an external marketing team to come up with a sloppy slogan, and getting a website created that seemingly can’t handle gifting or any sort of scalability… Essentially, I’m not often convinced about their statements or findings. If you look up Jason haigh ellery’s interview with ‘The Sirens of Audio’ interview he explains how they measured it, it’s actually quite interesting
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