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Post by mark687 on May 11, 2022 14:13:56 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on May 11, 2022 14:38:59 GMT
I'd love some of what David Richardson was on when he saw the "massively positive response". I don't think I saw one overwhelmingly positive review, even from the usually gushing reviewers!
The first set was such a disappointment and just didn't do anything creative or exciting with the concept. It felt like three hours of the team patting each other on the back without doing anything to deserve it. So I can't say a single thing in this announcement excites me; Davros and Leela won't be any different and why the use of the Key to Time?
This announcement is the epitome of what people who don't listen to Big Finish think Big Finish is like.
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Post by mark687 on May 11, 2022 14:48:48 GMT
I'd love some of what David Richardson was on when he saw the "massively positive response". I don't think I saw one overwhelmingly positive review, even from the usually gushing reviewers! The first set was such a disappointment and just didn't do anything creative or exciting with the concept. It felt like three hours of the team patting each other on the back without doing anything to deserve it. So I can't say a single thing in this announcement excites me; Davros and Leela won't be any different and why the use of the Key to Time? This announcement is the epitome of what people who don't listen to Big Finish think Big Finish is like. The things I noticed though most people liked Geoffrey Beevers involvement in Genesis, there's more for him to do this time by the look of it, and there's No doubling up on Writers across both volumes which means each EPs going to have a bit of a distinct feel. Regards mark687
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Post by theillusiveman on May 11, 2022 14:55:39 GMT
I Think with absolute certainty that we will be getting another Two Boxsets featuring Colin's "Doctor of War" i just wish there was more planning throughout with the series, and i do wish we would get new Unbound Doctors
I wonder if we will get any answers to some of the questions of Volume 1 because it was utterly baffling and trying to understand the logical inconsistencies in the stories just feel like Stuff just happens with no sense of continutiy and i know there is going to be the excuses of "its a time war nothing needs to make senes" or Timey Wimey i wish writers would stop using that as a crutch to not make sense. The whole Bill and Ted Conjuring up soluitions in time travel has gotten old and i wish they would put effort into the basis of time travel (ala Back to the future)
anyway back on topic:
More Beevers Master is nice will the story tie into Vol 1's second episode? also bit of an odd choice having Leela as The companion for The Key2Time despite that Volume 1 introduced a brand new version of Romana
Well i have already pre-ordered the bundle so bring on October 2022
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Post by shallacatop on May 11, 2022 14:59:12 GMT
I'd love some of what David Richardson was on when he saw the "massively positive response". I don't think I saw one overwhelmingly positive review, even from the usually gushing reviewers! The first set was such a disappointment and just didn't do anything creative or exciting with the concept. It felt like three hours of the team patting each other on the back without doing anything to deserve it. So I can't say a single thing in this announcement excites me; Davros and Leela won't be any different and why the use of the Key to Time? This announcement is the epitome of what people who don't listen to Big Finish think Big Finish is like. The things I noticed though most people liked Geoffrey Beevers involvement in Genesis, there's more for him to do this time by the look of it, and there's No doubling up on Writers across both volumes which means each EPs going to have a bit of a distinct feel. Regards mark687 Beevers is my favourite Master, but I’m not sure what he adds to Doctor of War, to be honest. He’s just playing a non-crispy version of his Master, but that’s not supposed to be the point with this range. He’ll give it his all, I’m sure, and probably show Colin up whilst he’s at it, but I don’t think that necessarily is a positive for what this range is supposed to be. Just give him his own box set that we’ve been clamouring for for years. And would you say the first set had three distinct episodes? It was all one big mess to my ears. Even Colin implies in the news article it’s just as intentionally convoluted and confusing (read: unsatisfying) as the first set. I remain unconvinced, but appreciate your more optimistic outlook.
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Post by grinch on May 11, 2022 15:42:59 GMT
I’ve admittedly yet to listen to the first set (and not really aching to if truth be told) but from reading the news piece it just sounds like another set of stories that could have easily been done in a War Doctor series set in the main universe.
Then again, maybe I just have a radically different view on what an Unbound story should be like.
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Post by fitzoliverj on May 11, 2022 15:44:35 GMT
why the use of the Key to Time?
Well, as I recall {Spoiler} it's been established - by Craig Hinton, I think. Quantum Archangel, perhaps? - that the previous universe came to an end during a war between Time Lord-analogues and Dalek-analogues, when their equivalent of the Key to Time got used.
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Post by lidar2 on May 11, 2022 15:47:48 GMT
I Think with absolute certainty that we will be getting another Two Boxsets featuring Colin's "Doctor of War" I fear there will be 3, entitled Resurrection, Revelation and Remembrance respectively
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Post by The Matt on May 11, 2022 16:28:26 GMT
🙄 I’ll pass thanks. Can’t be doing with yet more Leela and even more Louise Jameson. They both need to be given a break I think
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 11, 2022 16:41:31 GMT
The first set didn’t pass my 10 to 15 minute rule but I pre-ordered the bundle….so more Beavers Master & Leela is always a good thing.
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Post by BHTvsTFC on May 11, 2022 16:48:04 GMT
It's ironic considering how slated He Jests at Scars was as these two sets must be Gary Russell's wet dream!!!
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Post by sherlock on May 11, 2022 17:27:34 GMT
An Unbound Davros, that’s never been done before…oh wait Masters of War, Time War 4…
An Unbound Leela, that’s never been done before…oh wait Disassembled…
Well at least the stories sound somewhat stabilised status quo-wise, maybe I can actually get invested in this alt-universe…oh wait Colin Baker is quoted saying they’re still on shifting sands…
So yeah, not pre-ordering this one.
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Post by dasmaniac on May 11, 2022 17:49:24 GMT
I was unimpressed with Volume 1 and will need some convincing to buy this. Volume 1 was more confusing than compelling. It's a simple premise that was executed poorly.
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Post by thewatcher on May 11, 2022 18:13:58 GMT
I didn't get beyond the first story of last one it was awful worst thing I have ever heard from Big Finish and this sounds even worse more old characters and ideas lazy lazy lazy no no no
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Post by relativetime on May 11, 2022 18:21:46 GMT
“What if Leela met the Master instead of the Doctor” is the kind of Unbound idea I’d LOVE to see in its own dedicated release. I’m less excited about it being a part of THIS Unbound series, unfortunately. Oh well, hopefully it’s a more standalone story.
I already have the set preordered, so I’ll probably be listening to this either way, but these early details haven’t assured me it’s an improvement from the first set. I hope this is good and that it ties everything together, but I can’t help but feel skeptical.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 18:28:11 GMT
“I was thrilled by the massively positive response to the first box set."
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Post by masterdoctor on May 11, 2022 18:40:42 GMT
I really enjoyed the first set, so I look forward to this one as well. I do understand that people didn't care for it though, so I understand the hesitation.
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Post by shallacatop on May 11, 2022 18:48:48 GMT
“I was thrilled by the massively positive response to the first box set." The whole article reads a bit like burying your head in the sand. It’s bizarre to talk about “the massively positive response” when that’s just not true. It’s the most mixed to negative response of a Big Finish product for years and even the gushing reviewers weren’t enamoured, which says it all. And then we’ve got Colin practically telling people what they should think to the set whilst also acknowledging it’s all so convoluted and confusing but we should enjoy that! They’ve gone out their way to emphasise praise In a way they wouldn’t usually.
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Post by dorney on May 11, 2022 19:00:12 GMT
“I was thrilled by the massively positive response to the first box set." The whole article reads a bit like burying your head in the sand. It’s bizarre to talk about “the massively positive response” when that’s just not true. It’s the most mixed to negative response of a Big Finish product for years and even the gushing reviewers weren’t enamoured, which says it all. And then we’ve got Colin practically telling people what they should think to the set whilst also acknowledging it’s all so convoluted and confusing but we should enjoy that! They’ve gone out their way to emphasise praise In a way they wouldn’t usually. It got a very mixed reaction here, that’s true (veering negative even), and that’s fair enough, nothing is for everyone. But everywhere else the reviews were pretty positive, so I don’t think it actually is untrue. And of course I don’t think David uses the forums.
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Post by shallacatop on May 11, 2022 19:14:59 GMT
The whole article reads a bit like burying your head in the sand. It’s bizarre to talk about “the massively positive response” when that’s just not true. It’s the most mixed to negative response of a Big Finish product for years and even the gushing reviewers weren’t enamoured, which says it all. And then we’ve got Colin practically telling people what they should think to the set whilst also acknowledging it’s all so convoluted and confusing but we should enjoy that! They’ve gone out their way to emphasise praise In a way they wouldn’t usually. It got a very mixed reaction here, that’s true (veering negative even), and that’s fair enough, nothing is for everyone. But everywhere else the reviews were pretty positive, so I don’t think it actually is untrue. But that’s the thing, it wasn’t “massively positive” which is what’s stated in the article. Even “Pretty positive” isn’t your typical Big Finish release. DWM weren’t massively keen. The reviewers that get freebies weren’t either. There was a notable lack of praise on Twitter and even the usual suspects doing an influx of retweeting positive tweets weren’t. A regular news article wouldn’t make a big deal about a previous sets reception, unless they specifically use quotes. This one has and it reads like overcompensating. As you say, nothing is for everyone. Genesis more so.
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