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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 17, 2022 17:17:12 GMT
Probably NOT enough for a Lost Story...
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Post by grinch on Jun 17, 2022 17:29:06 GMT
I don’t know, I reckon Big Finish would try it anyway if only they can promote something as having come from the pen of Douglas Adams...
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 17, 2022 17:33:48 GMT
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Post by Star Platinum on Jun 17, 2022 18:54:07 GMT
Man, having Grant Morrison work on Doctor Who, whether it be on TV or Big Finish would be an absolute dream.
I’ve wanted to hear their takes on the universe for years, there is so much they could do with such a rich canon of stories.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jun 18, 2022 1:17:02 GMT
An unfinished Douglas Adams idea - quelle surprise!
I think working on the initial Hitchhikers and then Who “broke” Adams as a writer: there’s nothing after he finished there that has the same sort of energy and spontaneity as that early work and his struggle to finish things or create new work sort of cements that for me. I think he may have had more creative success in collaboration with others or as an ideas man: pitching ideas for others to work on. As it is, he’s a bit like a UK Gene Roddenberry: struggling to recapture the success of those early projects.
(I don’t rate Adams terribly highly as a writer outside of radio HHGG and his Who work, but I love his ideas more than their execution)
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Post by commonman on Jun 18, 2022 7:28:33 GMT
I'm positive I heard Morrison say they wanted the showrunner job before. I can't find the source right now but I think it was before they had some real TV experience?
With them and/or JMS, it would probably make for some interesting episodes imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 13:08:11 GMT
I don’t rate Adams terribly highly as a writer outside of radio HHGG and his Who work, but I love his ideas more than their execution That's the thing with Douglas Adams, he had a lot of ideas that were outside of the box but often in practice they didn't always go according to plan. But if all he ever did was HHGTTG then he did enough, as that was as good as it gets and he probably could have lived off that alone. |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 19, 2022 15:43:47 GMT
OK, this could be the big (finish) one -
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jun 19, 2022 15:58:44 GMT
Curious - how many here watched Morrison's Brave New World show?
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Post by commonman on Jun 19, 2022 16:44:39 GMT
well, that's a script I did not expect. Would love to check it out.
But i am not sure Big Finish could adapt it easily: if it's a cushing script, then they might have to negotiate new rights for the movies licence? Moffat could not use the movie posters in the day of the doctor within budget. But I guess it could just extends to the visuals and not the characters, like the mcgann doctor and the roberts master
Otherwise, I guess they could simply use their 1st doctor's casts and adapt it outside of TV continuity like they did with their recent(ish) lost cybermen script.
Based on the tweet it's a multi doctor story, so maybe the author wanted both the film and the current TV doctors? (tweet replies state its from 1984 so that would be Colin)
A fascinating find all around.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 19, 2022 17:38:45 GMT
(tweet replies state its from 1984 so that would be Colin) The replies are wrong. "Doctor Who's Greatest Adventure" was pitched as combining a television Doctor (Subotsky spoke about specifically Pertwee or Tom) and a new, younger incarnation ("whoever we can get", which has shades of "any old **** with an Equity Card" if you ask me). Supposedly there was also an earlier version pitched in the late 70s intended for Tom Baker and Cushing, which would have been an interesting combo. |
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 19, 2022 18:05:33 GMT
An unfinished Douglas Adams idea - quelle surprise! I think working on the initial Hitchhikers and then Who “broke” Adams as a writer: there’s nothing after he finished there that has the same sort of energy and spontaneity as that early work and his struggle to finish things or create new work sort of cements that for me. I think he may have had more creative success in collaboration with others or as an ideas man: pitching ideas for others to work on. As it is, he’s a bit like a UK Gene Roddenberry: struggling to recapture the success of those early projects. ( I don’t rate Adams terribly highly as a writer outside of radio HHGG and his Who work, but I love his ideas more than their execution) There obviously is someone who has not read "Last Chance to See". One of my absolute favorite books and in my opinion the best book by Douglas Adams. And it has NOTHING to do with neither Who nor Science Fiction. This is one of the books I get out in my darkest most desperate life moments.
(but I get what you are trying to say, I agree that all his novels, Hitchhiker and Dirk Gently, are just re-hashed Who scripts, although full of great ideas.)
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Post by shutupbanks on Jun 20, 2022 9:56:02 GMT
I don’t rate Adams terribly highly as a writer outside of radio HHGG and his Who work, but I love his ideas more than their execution That's the thing with Douglas Adams, he had a lot of ideas that were outside of the box but often in practice they didn't always go according to plan. But if all he ever did was HHGTTG then he did enough, as that was as good as it gets and he probably could have lived off that alone. Like I said, I really only rate that work of his as being any good. Frankly it is something to be immensely proud of but I just don’t think he did anything else that comes remotely close to it. |
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Post by shutupbanks on Jun 20, 2022 9:59:48 GMT
An unfinished Douglas Adams idea - quelle surprise! I think working on the initial Hitchhikers and then Who “broke” Adams as a writer: there’s nothing after he finished there that has the same sort of energy and spontaneity as that early work and his struggle to finish things or create new work sort of cements that for me. I think he may have had more creative success in collaboration with others or as an ideas man: pitching ideas for others to work on. As it is, he’s a bit like a UK Gene Roddenberry: struggling to recapture the success of those early projects. ( I don’t rate Adams terribly highly as a writer outside of radio HHGG and his Who work, but I love his ideas more than their execution) There obviously is someone who has not read "Last Chance to See". One of my absolute favorite books and in my opinion the best book by Douglas Adams. And it has NOTHING to do with neither Who nor Science Fiction. This is one of the books I get out in my darkest most desperate life moments.
(but I get what you are trying to say, I agree that all his novels, Hitchhiker and Dirk Gently, are just re-hashed Who scripts, although full of great ideas.)
I could be really mean and say that nearly everything that Adams completed after about 1985 was done in collaboration with other people… I bought Last Chance To See for a girl I was dating the year it came out. Naturally I also read it. The pictures were gorgeous, the concept behind it was terrific and I even enjoyed the prose. |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 20, 2022 17:39:46 GMT
Bit more info on the movie script - www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-greatest-adventure-unmade-film-newsupdate/-- As for Douglas Adams, it's difficult to judge his career as his appalling writer's block stopped him doing so much, combined with appalling luck (so many things - e.g. his work with the Muppets - that fell through even before he began to procastinate and take baths). "The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul", I think, though, shows a certain genius - it breaks all the rules of writing, and tells rather than shows, but it's a great book. Only Adams and A A Milne could get away with that. |
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Jun 21, 2022 18:51:34 GMT
well, that's a script I did not expect. Would love to check it out. But i am not sure Big Finish could adapt it easily: if it's a cushing script, then they might have to negotiate new rights for the movies licence? Moffat could not use the movie posters in the day of the doctor within budget. But I guess it could just extends to the visuals and not the characters, like the mcgann doctor and the roberts master Otherwise, I guess they could simply use their 1st doctor's casts and adapt it outside of TV continuity like they did with their recent(ish) lost cybermen script. Based on the tweet it's a multi doctor story, so maybe the author wanted both the film and the current TV doctors? (tweet replies state its from 1984 so that would be Colin) A fascinating find all around. Apparently it was adapted out of an earlier horror script based off a book, so that’s another potential problem with the rights. I’m not sure on how the Cushing rights work, since DWM did a Cushing story and we have old BBC Short Trips, but nothing more substantial. It’s probable the licensing issue with Day was specifically for the posters rather than the film/characters. I suspect the lack of Cushing projects over the years have more to do with a lack of appeal in the absence of Cushing himself than rights, but again, I’m not sure. |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 5, 2022 11:40:08 GMT
The Telegraph has an article about the Subotsky script in today's edition. It's the most coherent version of the story I've seen (although I think that the idea that Hugh Grant would have been the 'young Doctor' is pushing it). *Very* interesting that the script was quite literally doctored to change the leads from a couple to a pair of Time Lords, and that the author, despite being a DW fan, never knew the plans to reuse his material. Also, there's a great fan-poster to go with the article www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/the-outlandish-doctor-who-movie-that-never-was/ar-AAZcqkD |
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