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Post by elkawho on Nov 21, 2023 18:26:08 GMT
Maybe it's just that Once And Future has been....I'll be kind and say divisive...but I almost feel like this month could use some more exciting Who-related material from BF for the 60th. Going back 10 years to the 50th. YES - we had The Light At The End. But that was far from all. In the November alone we also had Carole-Anne in The Beginning - a big deal canonically which went prior to An Unearthly Child, so really celebrating the full 50 years. We had an MR release in Assassination Games from the 1963 trilogy, also an anniversary treat. And The Time Machine from Destiny Of The Doctor - ANOTHER celebration for the 50th, with Jenna Coleman, no less. This November? We're not really getting anything that couldn't be released any old month. Maybe The Box Of Terrors, with it being multi-Doc and having Omega (an old anniversary fave) but even that's an audiobook rather than a drama. Guess I'm just feeling a bit entitled but it did feel a lot fuller for the 50th. I couldn't agree more. I'm disappointed.
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Post by melkur on Nov 22, 2023 12:57:51 GMT
Whilst I don't really think that 60 is really an anniversary worth 'noting' beyond being 'just another decade'? Yeah, I do kind-of have to agree
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Post by timleschild on Nov 22, 2023 13:27:19 GMT
Whilst I don't really think that 60 is really an anniversary worth 'noting' beyond being 'just another decade'? Yeah, I do kind-of have to agree Maybe but how many tv shows have reached 60 years? Either way Once & Future. Will it be remembered?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 13:43:22 GMT
Whilst I don't really think that 60 is really an anniversary worth 'noting' beyond being 'just another decade'? Yeah, I do kind-of have to agree It's also the start of a big, new era with the Disney deal and RTD2 - so you'd use anything just as PR and make hay while the sun shines, I'd think. I'd also factor in....how many will be around to celebrate a 70th or 75th? Tom would be 104, William Russell 1114, Peter Purves, Colin, Sylv, Carol-Anne in their 90s. Davison in his late 80s. Even Capaldi and Eccleston would be in their late 70s. It's not just an arbitrary number - it's going to be the last time we have as many people around to celebrate it as we do. Which is morbid but a statistical certainty.
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Post by Star Platinum on Nov 22, 2023 13:53:39 GMT
Maybe it's just that Once And Future has been....I'll be kind and say divisive...but I almost feel like this month could use some more exciting Who-related material from BF for the 60th. Going back 10 years to the 50th. YES - we had The Light At The End. But that was far from all. In the November alone we also had Carole-Anne in The Beginning - a big deal canonically which went prior to An Unearthly Child, so really celebrating the full 50 years. We had an MR release in Assassination Games from the 1963 trilogy, also an anniversary treat. And The Time Machine from Destiny Of The Doctor - ANOTHER celebration for the 50th, with Jenna Coleman, no less. This November? We're not really getting anything that couldn't be released any old month. Maybe The Box Of Terrors, with it being multi-Doc and having Omega (an old anniversary fave) but even that's an audiobook rather than a drama. Guess I'm just feeling a bit entitled but it did feel a lot fuller for the 50th. That’s a little unfair, Nov 2013 was a fairly quiet month. The Light at the End was pulled ahead to October and The Time Machine was delayed to mid December due to the collapse of AudioGo. All Nov 2013 really had was a couple WHO’s rounds, Lords of the Red Planet, Assassination Games and The Beginning. Still a very strong month, but definitely a quieter month for Big Finish. Granted, I’d have tweaked this November’s schedule so it wasn’t quite so heavy on Jacob Dudman, but we’re definitely getting more who this time around than we did this time 10 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 15:06:28 GMT
Maybe it's just that Once And Future has been....I'll be kind and say divisive...but I almost feel like this month could use some more exciting Who-related material from BF for the 60th. Going back 10 years to the 50th. YES - we had The Light At The End. But that was far from all. In the November alone we also had Carole-Anne in The Beginning - a big deal canonically which went prior to An Unearthly Child, so really celebrating the full 50 years. We had an MR release in Assassination Games from the 1963 trilogy, also an anniversary treat. And The Time Machine from Destiny Of The Doctor - ANOTHER celebration for the 50th, with Jenna Coleman, no less. This November? We're not really getting anything that couldn't be released any old month. Maybe The Box Of Terrors, with it being multi-Doc and having Omega (an old anniversary fave) but even that's an audiobook rather than a drama. Guess I'm just feeling a bit entitled but it did feel a lot fuller for the 50th. That’s a little unfair, Nov 2013 was a fairly quiet month. The Light at the End was pulled ahead to October and The Time Machine was delayed to mid December due to the collapse of AudioGo. All Nov 2013 really had was a couple WHO’s rounds, Lords of the Red Planet, Assassination Games and The Beginning. Still a very strong month, but definitely a quieter month for Big Finish. Granted, I’d have tweaked this November’s schedule so it wasn’t quite so heavy on Jacob Dudman, but we’re definitely getting more who this time around than we did this time 10 years ago. I kept Light At The End separate in my November sentence for a reason. But if you just take The Beginning and the 1963 trilogy (and The Time Machine was meant to be out weeks earlier, cna't hold that against BF), can it really be argued that this month is more celebratory or celebratory at all? We may have more hours of releases but the point that was made, and others seem to have agreed with, was that some Dudman Chonicles, a Torchwood Ood story, The War Master....are these putting anyone in anniversary mood? Getting anyone excited for celebrating the past and the future? Unfair? No, I think it's balanced. We're getting just another month of releases from BF none of which would seem out of place in any other month. There may be more nowadays, but their volume has increased for years now so that's true of any month compared to a decade prior. But we're Doctor Who fans. Every 10th November is, well, not just another month.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Nov 22, 2023 15:30:00 GMT
That’s a little unfair, Nov 2013 was a fairly quiet month. The Light at the End was pulled ahead to October and The Time Machine was delayed to mid December due to the collapse of AudioGo. All Nov 2013 really had was a couple WHO’s rounds, Lords of the Red Planet, Assassination Games and The Beginning. Still a very strong month, but definitely a quieter month for Big Finish. Granted, I’d have tweaked this November’s schedule so it wasn’t quite so heavy on Jacob Dudman, but we’re definitely getting more who this time around than we did this time 10 years ago. I kept Light At The End separate in my November sentence for a reason. But if you just take The Beginning and the 1963 trilogy (and The Time Machine was meant to be out weeks earlier, cna't hold that against BF), can it really be argued that this month is more celebratory or celebratory at all? We may have more hours of releases but the point that was made, and others seem to have agreed with, was that some Dudman Chonicles, a Torchwood Ood story, The War Master....are these putting anyone in anniversary mood? Getting anyone excited for celebrating the past and the future? Unfair? No, I think it's balanced. We're getting just another month of releases from BF none of which would seem out of place in any other month. There may be more nowadays, but their volume has increased for years now so that's true of any month compared to a decade prior. But we're Doctor Who fans. Every 10th November is, well, not just another month. To be fair, I don't think any of this month's releases - save for The Box of Terrors - is trying to put anyone in an anniversary mood or be an anniversary story. BF's main anniversary releases were Once and Future. None of the stuff this month is meant to be specifically anniversary-related, so I don't see why you're criticising it for not being so. Also, I think it's more than likely that the BBC didn't want any anniversary stuff from BF in Nov - otherwise it would at least have made sense to conclude Once and Future this month. All that said, apparently BF fans should keep an eye out on the main Doctor Who newsletter tomorrow, so who knows...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 15:38:35 GMT
Read my actual post. "I almost feel like this month could use some more exciting Who-related material from BF for the 60th." - I didn't say the actual releases are supposed to feel celebratory, but I WISH we had ones that are. That 2013 was more exciting as a fan. Plenty liked the post so must agree.
And I didn't say one critical word - not one - about the releases we're actually getting. Indeed I praised The War Master in the relevant thread.
Surely we can post "wouldn't it be nice if..." without being shot down.
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Post by kipperserver on Nov 24, 2023 10:07:37 GMT
I think it's clear BBC asked BF not to release stuff in November. We got tw episodes of Once and Future in October for no good reason, and one is pushed back to next November. (I think they should have released the whole thing asa box set in November myself.)
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Nov 30, 2023 0:38:41 GMT
I think it's clear BBC asked BF not to release stuff in November. We got tw episodes of Once and Future in October for no good reason, and one is pushed back to next November. (I think they should have released the whole thing asa box set in November myself.) I had to double take when I read that on the page. A whole year?! XD Well, I guess it'll make a nice present to future me. On the whole, I just found Once and Future to be OK. I felt like BF were definitly taking advantage of the Anniversay status to spotlight some of their nicher assets. To mixed results. Didn't think much to Past Lives. Loved the Artist at the End of the Universe! Didn't really like the plot of Genius for War, but hard not to enjoy Malloy tearing it up as Davros. Two's Company was surprisingly delightful. Martian Invasion and Immemorial were fine. Nice to get Nine and Ten in the mix. And The Union. I guess the main appeal was the rotation of the Doctor going harwire. And it had some cool lines and interplay between the forms. Dudman does an uncanny 11, but I wasn't keen on his 12. I guess I liked that the War Doctor was at the centre of it all, but once that revelation is made, everything just sort of wraps up around it, instead it it being integral to the solution. And it was hard to get invested in River's side of things since it there was a sense of everything being pre-ordaned. EDIT: Forgot to mention, I wonder if at any point the Valeyard was factored into the story. He's the actual non-Doctor. And before it became more clear who the Union was, I legit had a "is it actually going to be the Rani this time" moment!
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Post by shallacatop on Dec 1, 2023 14:12:52 GMT
Replacement special editions finally arrived, much better quality and the logo looks clearer. I do find it odd that there’s now two runs of numbering for the first three releases in existence!
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