mbt66
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Post by mbt66 on Oct 29, 2023 10:32:33 GMT
I understand the justification of an Unbound Doctor in relation to those early Eighth Doctor series. When we didn’t know the end point his audio adventures really did feel different and more special. He was, and probably always will be, Big Finish’s Doctor. To recapture that unknown journey feeling…
The Eighth Doctor: Unbound. What if he was still the Doctor when the Time War ended.
I would love stories dealing with the aftermath of the war, with the Doctor searching for Time Lord survivors, making safe both Dalek and Time Lord technologies, trying to right some if the wrongs and battling the new foes that rise up to fill the vacuum left by the destruction/disappearance of the main Time races.
The War Doctor wasn’t a creation by RTD, in fact he wrote a short story that had the Eighth Doctor at the end of the Time War, so such an unbound might get his blessing…
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Post by timleschild on Oct 29, 2023 11:01:46 GMT
I wonder how radically different some of these ideas are? Obviously the Doctor can't really be that different but I do like the idea of playing with the 3rd Doctor's banishment to earth, like was originally done with David Warner. Have a series of one-shot What Ifs with 3 banished in different time periods maybe? Or alternate universes? Like the world of Inferno?
Going off topic slightly but I would love the idea that Matthew Sweet played with in his short story of The Master becoming scientific advisor to Russia's version of UNIT.
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Post by martinw8686 on Oct 29, 2023 11:23:47 GMT
I understand the justification of an Unbound Doctor in relation to those early Eighth Doctor series. When we didn’t know the end point his audio adventures really did feel different and more special. He was, and probably always will be, Big Finish’s Doctor. To recapture that unknown journey feeling… The Eighth Doctor: Unbound. What if he was still the Doctor when the Time War ended. I would love stories dealing with the aftermath of the war, with the Doctor searching for Time Lord survivors, making safe both Dalek and Time Lord technologies, trying to right some if the wrongs and battling the new foes that rise up to fill the vacuum left by the destruction/disappearance of the main Time races. The War Doctor wasn’t a creation by RTD, in fact he wrote a short story that had the Eighth Doctor at the end of the Time War, so such an unbound might get his blessing… I like this idea. There's a lot of potential story to explore. I imagine a post apocalyptic universe where many planets are picking up the pieces after utter devastation. Mcgann would get some rich material.
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Post by mbt66 on Oct 29, 2023 16:38:16 GMT
I understand the justification of an Unbound Doctor in relation to those early Eighth Doctor series. When we didn’t know the end point his audio adventures really did feel different and more special. He was, and probably always will be, Big Finish’s Doctor. To recapture that unknown journey feeling… The Eighth Doctor: Unbound. What if he was still the Doctor when the Time War ended. I would love stories dealing with the aftermath of the war, with the Doctor searching for Time Lord survivors, making safe both Dalek and Time Lord technologies, trying to right some if the wrongs and battling the new foes that rise up to fill the vacuum left by the destruction/disappearance of the main Time races. The War Doctor wasn’t a creation by RTD, in fact he wrote a short story that had the Eighth Doctor at the end of the Time War, so such an unbound might get his blessing… I like this idea. There's a lot of potential story to explore. I imagine a post apocalyptic universe where many planets are picking up the pieces after utter devastation. Mcgann would get some rich material. It is an existing time period that, from what has been commentated previously, is not something Christopher Eccleston is keen to visit.
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Post by martinw8686 on Oct 29, 2023 18:33:08 GMT
I like this idea. There's a lot of potential story to explore. I imagine a post apocalyptic universe where many planets are picking up the pieces after utter devastation. Mcgann would get some rich material. It is an existing time period that, from what has been commentated previously, is not something Christopher Eccleston is keen to visit. That's a shame as I find that time period vastly more interesting than what Eccleston has chosen to do instead. Lots of people seem to like the 9DAs but I find it all very inconsequential and samey. I hope Chris changes his mind or the range undergoes some sort of change
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Post by timleschild on Oct 29, 2023 19:34:20 GMT
I like this idea. There's a lot of potential story to explore. I imagine a post apocalyptic universe where many planets are picking up the pieces after utter devastation. Mcgann would get some rich material. It is an existing time period that, from what has been commentated previously, is not something Christopher Eccleston is keen to visit. Would be too depressing.
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Post by martinw8686 on Oct 29, 2023 20:59:58 GMT
I really like when Doctor Who goes dark, but I do forget others don't share my taste.
I wouldn’t want things dark all the time. Also the light is more beautiful when shared with those trapped in the dark.
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Post by enofa on Nov 5, 2023 0:52:15 GMT
What I really enjoyed about the NAoBS boxes - other than Benny, of course - was the feeling of them being different and new. Warner was brilliant, and I do think his Doctor was different, with that childish petulance dialled up to 11, but it was something different. After 25 years and many, many hundreds of stories, the existing Doctor/companion dynamics struggle to excite. When you get a magnificent story, it’s still a magnificent story. But when it’s merely a good one, but also just another Five/Tegan/Nyssa one (or whatever), it’s hard to get excited. Whereas a Doctor we’ve only had a handful of stories from just has that novelty element. It feels different. So even if the story isn’t a standout, there’s more to make it worth returning to.
It’s why I’m looking forward to the Fugitive Doctor series, even though I’m not a fan of the Timeless Child story. It’s a whole new area for BF to explore, and that’s exciting in itself.
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Post by mbt66 on Nov 5, 2023 10:23:07 GMT
… It’s why I’m looking forward to the Fugitive Doctor series, even though I’m not a fan of the Timeless Child story. It’s a whole new area for BF to explore, and that’s exciting in itself. Jo Martin was an incredible addition to the roster of previous Doctors. Like you I am not a fan of the Timeless Child backstory, but I am intrigued to hear what Big Finish can do with the Fugitive Doctor. Hopefully, once the TV anniversary is out of the way Big Finish will be allowed to give us some story details, along with a release date.
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Post by timleschild on Nov 5, 2023 10:31:35 GMT
Hopefully Fugitive Doctor will be something new. I fear we will get the usual suspects turning up.
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Post by theillusiveman on Dec 31, 2023 8:16:22 GMT
In all honesty i think RTD and The BBC are doing a bigger disservice to Big Finish by not allowing them to create New Unbound Doctors think of it this way in the near future when 90 percent of Classic Who Doctors are "Retired" and when New Who Doctors are scarce in their sceudles or even want to do Big Finish then what then
by allowing Big Finish to create some Unbound Doctors to continue the flame and allowing more creative freedom with the canon this would help keep the DW franchise going till New Who Actors get on board and i know there is always the Recast Doctors solution but its kinda really hit and miss when it comes to that and not many customers would want to gamble on it (especially with the ever increase of inflating the Price tag of the audios)
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Dec 31, 2023 8:20:29 GMT
I never Never bought the excuse that the buying public would "get confused".. That's insulting IMHO.
The whole concept of the Doctor is he is a Timelord of Time & Space. Any iteration can pop up anywhere at anytime.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2023 8:21:18 GMT
In all honesty i think RTD and The BBC are doing a bigger disservice to Big Finish by not allowing them to create New Unbound Doctors think of it this way in the near future when 90 percent of Classic Who Doctors are "Retired" and when New Who Doctors are scarce in their sceudles or even want to do Big Finish then what then by allowing Big Finish to create some Unbound Doctors to continue the flame and allowing more creative freedom with the canon this would help keep the DW franchise going till New Who Actors get on board and i know there is always the Recast Doctors solution but its kinda really hit and miss when it comes to that and not many customers would want to gamble on it (especially with the ever increase of inflating the Price tag of the audios) It is a bit odd, especially when the idea of timeless doctors and RTDs "making a jigsaw puzzle of your past" allows scope to have new doctors in the current universe. I'm not sure new unbound doctors would be the answer to the retirement of the current crop of doctors though, it's always felt like more of a niche idea to me. I guess if New doctors don't sign up, then over time BF output will shift towards spinoffs. Dalek Empire, UNIT et Al showed there's more to the whoniverse than Doctor Who.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Dec 31, 2023 9:59:59 GMT
I never Never bought the excuse that the buying public would "get confused"..
A lot of people seem to think the purpose of the Unbound range was to cast new actors, not to pose 'what if' questions
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Post by enofa on Dec 31, 2023 13:36:58 GMT
It’s more a case of press management: RTD is generally very good at promotion and being the public face of the show, deciding what gets known and when. But the tabloids are always out for clickbait, and “Kris Marshall Cast As Doctor Who!” is the perfect piece of clickbait. The article might well say “Kris Marshall will play the Time Lord in a new audio story asking the question ‘What if the Doctor regenerated into a boring, bumbling idiot?’” in the first paragraph, but all it needs is the headline to be spread around and people will start wondering when the new Doctor will be on TV. A lot of intelligent readers will know the score, but tabloid misinformation and clickbait spreads based on the fact that there’s a huge number of people in society with no critical faculties, and so that kind of story will just muddy the waters of how the Bad Wolf team want the TV series promoted. So I think it’s kind of fair enough, sadly.
Current Doctors retiring? It’s probably going to just be impersonators, isn’t it? Unless any of them refuse, asking the range to end with them, in 20 years it’ll just be a few new series Doctors and companions and a huge load of impersonators.
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