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Post by mark687 on Jan 5, 2024 17:25:26 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Jan 17, 2024 16:05:55 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Jan 24, 2024 14:01:51 GMT
Due Out Thursday 8th Feb
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 8, 2024 10:09:10 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Feb 8, 2024 11:43:51 GMT
Solid story with a couple of nice little Brig character moments
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Post by bonehead on Feb 8, 2024 13:19:01 GMT
All these years and I’m still impressed by how easily I’ve accepted a Third Doctor era filled with recasts, something I was never massively comfortable with. It’s made easy though, because not only are Tim Treloar, Sadie Miller and Jon Culshaw excellent and fully established now as The Doctor, Sarah and The Brig, but the writing for them is so in character – I’d forgotten how initially Lethbridge-Stewart was mildly irritated by Sarah’s professional nosiness (in fact, he’s wonderfully grouchy throughout). It really is ‘all rather wonderful.’ In fact, Sarah is central to a lot of this story, and it’s good to see Sadie getting so much to do. Charming, puckish and a bit of a snoop.
The incidental score, usually era-friendly, is sometimes uncharacteristically jaunty. Not a complaint, just an observation on Joe Kraemer’s enjoyably different take on it, separating these releases from regular 3DAs. Interesting too, that despite the title, the Sontarans are hardly in this; Tim Foley’s script moves so quickly, it isn’t really a problem. I like restraint like this, after all, this is only one episode out of four.
In all, I enjoyed this just as much as the previous tale, and I enjoyed that a lot. It managed to be very true to the Third Doctor’s era, whilst approaching the story in a pleasingly different way. It’s noticeable to me though, that the Rutans could just have easily been Autons, or even Zygons. That’s the problem when you have so many shape-shifters about! Recommended.
“Never doubted you for a moment … it is you, isn’t it?”
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Post by sherlock on Feb 10, 2024 13:49:57 GMT
It’s a solid story which gives some great material for the leads. I did like the incidental music, as was also the case for the first entry. This miniseries isn’t trying to replicate the eras (that’s the domain of 3DAs proper) so why not do something different with it. All in all, this miniseries is shaping up well and I look forward to next month.
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Post by timleschild on Feb 10, 2024 22:18:41 GMT
This was really good fun. The callback was good rather than annoying & fed into the story. All the cast do well.
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Post by number13 on Feb 10, 2024 22:34:31 GMT
I loved it!
Much more to say, but the bit which pleased my inner Third Doctor fan most was the ruins of Irongron's stronghold now being known as 'Lindsay Castle'.
For fans who are less involved in the Classic era than me, Kevin Lindsay was Linx, the first Sontaran ever to "grace" our screens. The Original, you might say! (If that was in the Extras, sorry but I haven't heard them yet. )
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Post by elkawho on Feb 11, 2024 17:27:08 GMT
That's 2/2!
I'm enjoying these quite a bit. Both of the released episodes of this set have been true to their era but they also work so well together. This cast is fabulous together and the story seemed to fly by. So much so that I was sad when it was over and I had to go back and double check the run time. As I mentioned in my comment on The Battle of Giant's Causeway, except for the length these have been a nice callback to getting a monthly MR story and I'm loving it. I think I will be sad when it ends.
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Post by wolfdog95 on Feb 11, 2024 23:13:42 GMT
Just got done listening to this.
I must confess I don't really follow the 3DAS. But Treloar is undoubtedly an excellent Pertwee. In fact, fair to say all of the main cast were on their A-game in this.
The music - while very good in its own right - is clearly making no attempt to recreate the musical style of the Pertwee era. But the script and performances are so successful in evoking the story style of that era that it wasn't a problem. I think it's quite an interesting experiment in fact, showing how a radically different musical style might have worked with the aesthetic and story style of the Pertwee era.
If I had one nitpick, I wasn't too keen on the Doctor seemingly being aware his time as Three is almost over. I think that's too much of a new series trope and doesn't really suit the Third Doctor.
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Post by timleschild on Feb 12, 2024 7:46:01 GMT
If I had one nitpick, I wasn't too keen on the Doctor seemingly being aware his time as Three is almost over. I think that's too much of a new series trope and doesn't really suit the Third Doctor. Yep agree on that. Unnecessary.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 16, 2024 13:35:21 GMT
Loved this as much as the previous instalment. As others have said, it's a refreshing break out of the 3DA's, which are rather traditional in nature. And yet it serves its three leads perfectly. The humanitarian edge of the Third Doctor, the journalist side to Sarah and the continued development of the Brig are all here. The latter is particularly well served, with some lovely quieter scenes and the initial sparring with Sarah that tends to get overlooked. The link to The Time Warrior felt natural and never forced and the very minimal usage of the Sontarans worked well; after all, it's titled Sontarans vs Rutans, so to have a story dedicated to developing the less frequent alien menace makes perfect sense. Loved the soundtrack too, very unconventional to the era, but perfect for the miniseries.
I agree with a couple of comments about the Doctor seemingly being aware that his time is almost up. It's very minor in the grand scheme of the story, but not too sure it's needed or suits Three. I feel the same about Cornell's addition of him spending a few years with radiation poisoning.
Bring on Sixie's instalment!
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Post by Ian McArdell on Feb 19, 2024 12:45:29 GMT
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Post by Timelord007 on Feb 20, 2024 18:17:42 GMT
Enjoyed it overall however after a great build up I thought the climax a little ab & resolution ended too quickly.
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Post by nottenst on Feb 27, 2024 22:22:06 GMT
Just listened to this today. It was most enjoyable with us following Sarah and the Brig and being "in the dark" with them wondering what was going on, though there were plenty of hints all over the place.
There was a nice reference to the first one of these.
My one quibble is that it was hard to tell which of the double Doctors the Brig chose and exactly what happened to the other one. I'll have to listen to that segment again.
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Post by number13 on Mar 14, 2024 8:46:07 GMT
I've just enjoyed a second listen ahead of delving into Sixie's episode of the series.
As the most Third Doctor fan around here (I like to think ) I was really looking forward to this one and I loved it from the very 1970s title (could have been a TV series) onwards. Seeing things mostly from the pov of Sarah and the Brigadier was a great idea and let the story give all three leads equal prominence, which worked very well. The feel of the era (both of classic Who and real Earth time) was done perfectly and I'm sure I wasn't the only one pleased to see the Brig's flat cap come out of storage - it must have survived the storming of Stangmoor prison intact!
No doubt we were all playing 'spot the Rutan' and I liked the tease that the Doctor might be 'one of them' but never really believed it - he's much, much too complex a being for any shape-shifter to replicate convincingly for more than a few seconds. Friends who know him as well as Sarah and the Brig. would have spotted a double in minutes, never mind a few weeks.
I was completely fooled by Stanley. He seemed such a part of 70s rural life, selling gumdrops and postcards in his 'old man's remote petrol station. The ending seemed quite New Who I thought and so far as I can remember this would be the first time that UNIT officially sanctioned an alien to live on Earth among us. So the Brigadier created that policy which Kate would later oversee. Nice idea, and I really liked the idea of a being 'defecting' from its Collective to become an individual, very much the spirit of the time.
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