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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 21, 2017 17:56:40 GMT
Because attention is focused on the 8th Doctor this week with the release of the Time War box set and it would both ride the wave and help build momentum. And second, I don’t really give crap about the Jenny box set. I think announcing the DC follow up with the Time war boxset release could go either way, it could build hype or distract attention (I'd be happy with just a name...), though I'd expect a vague tease in the behind the scenes interviews, the Time War set is supposed to be set ''many years' after the events of Doom Coalition and I'm guessing it will be very different in tone deliberately... (Agreed on Jenny, Who? indeed never really understood why people were so enamored with the character) I think she's an interesting character in that she was 'born' from the Doctor's tissue fully grown without the period we all have from birth to adulthood to learn about the surrounding world. Jenny has a certain naivety to her, but at the same time she's not made vulnerable by it. She can still look after herself, and has many skills such as the cartwheeling she does over the laser grid to the Doctor and Donna's surprise. I also like how Jenny's episode The Doctor's Daughter highlighted a character flaw in the Tenth Doctor in how he was initially unable to accept her as his daughter. I think the best episodes show that as much as we find the Doctor a likable protagonist he is still a character with many flaws.
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Post by Jeedai on Oct 21, 2017 20:42:29 GMT
So if they bring Davros into the Time War box sets, which actor do you think BF will, or should, use? Terry Malloy or the guy who has been playing him in the revived series? Both of them. Divergent time-shards each battling the other for the chance to stabilize their own existence and lead the Daleks towards temporal supremacy and THE DESTRUCTION! OF! THE! TIME! LORDS!!!
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Post by sherlock on Oct 21, 2017 21:21:02 GMT
So if they bring Davros into the Time War box sets, which actor do you think BF will, or should, use? Terry Malloy or the guy who has been playing him in the revived series? If they can get him, I think Julian Bleach. Simply to maintain consistency since this is a 'New Series' release. Regardless of which actor a rematch between the eighth Doctor and Davros is long overdue (and the ending of Terror Firma needs a follow-up too-how exactly does Davros go from where is he at the end of that story to how he is in the New Series?).
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Post by mark687 on Oct 21, 2017 21:56:45 GMT
So if they bring Davros into the Time War box sets, which actor do you think BF will, or should, use? Terry Malloy or the guy who has been playing him in the revived series? If they can get him, I think Julian Bleach. Simply to maintain consistency since this is a 'New Series' release. Regardless of which actor a rematch between the eighth Doctor and Davros is long overdue (and the ending of Terror Firma needs a follow-up too-how exactly does Davros go from where is he at the end of that story to how he is in the New Series?). 8th Doc Time War releases could be bridge releases (if you must count 1963-2004 and 2005 onwards as 2 series I Don't), so they'd both be fine, (though my preference would be Terry Malloy) Regards mark687
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Oct 21, 2017 22:06:25 GMT
I'm happy for Terry Molloy to keep playing Davros on Audio as long as he's willing.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 21, 2017 22:47:17 GMT
I think announcing the DC follow up with the Time war boxset release could go either way, it could build hype or distract attention (I'd be happy with just a name...), though I'd expect a vague tease in the behind the scenes interviews, the Time War set is supposed to be set ''many years' after the events of Doom Coalition and I'm guessing it will be very different in tone deliberately... (Agreed on Jenny, Who? indeed never really understood why people were so enamored with the character) I think she's an interesting character in that she was 'born' from the Doctor's tissue fully grown without the period we all have from birth to adulthood to learn about the surrounding world. Jenny has a certain naivety to her, but at the same time she's not made vulnerable by it. She can still look after herself, and has many skills such as the cartwheeling she does over the laser grid to the Doctor and Donna's surprise. I also like how Jenny's episode The Doctor's Daughter highlighted a character flaw in the Tenth Doctor in how he was initially unable to accept her as his daughter. I think the best episodes show that as much as we find the Doctor a likable protagonist he is still a character with many flaws. I personally think you are seeing more than was actually in the episode, but that is what you see. I'm glad you are looking forward to the box set. As noted here and elsewhere, I'm certainly open to Big Finish working their magic but at this point I'm just not seeing it. Now bring on More 8, Liv & Helen!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 0:33:37 GMT
To me the new series starts with the War Doctor, so as this is the Eighth Doctor it should be Terry Molloy. Even more so as that is the version of Davros that the Eighth Doctor has faced off against before, so a confrontation between the two would feel more personal, in my opinion, with Molloy's Davros.
Also, thematically, as Davros was supposed to have been killed during the first year of the Time War (but was actually saved by Dalek Caan) it makes more sense to me personally to have the actor change start at his next return anyway, but ultimately Big Finish will do what they will do.
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Post by relativetime on Oct 22, 2017 1:02:29 GMT
No offence to the dedicated American Bf fans, but i wonder if it's higher amongst Americans? Radioplays aren't really a part of daily life in the states and I have heard a LOT of really offensive things in regards to Jodie's accent and UK accents in general. So I could see many of those dregs refusing BF because they can't understand the accents. Also, there's just this nasty prejudice towards audio plays I've seen and it tends to line up with the same attitudes with books. "Buuut there are no pictures. just words!" Hell, you can even get the first 50 or so on Spotify... FREE. I've seen it come from American quarters a lot against radio which is a shame as the US did some amazing radio in the 40s and 50s and programs like "Clan of the Fiery Cross" were brilliant for the time and still hold up 60 years later. I wouldn't be surprised if the same lot that won't touch BF won't touch Books. I wish I'd gotten into BF way earlier but as someone who is handicapped and has eye problems being able to listen to an exciting multimillion dollar blockbuster to an intense arthouse piece to War movies with planet-sized spaceships is nothin short of amazing. It's hard for me to see someone as a 'hardcore fan' when they won't touch Big Finish with an 8 foot pole. Hell, Behemoth is still 10US on preorder on Amazon. It's not like you have to spend a fortune for the classic stuff. Granted I had someone who didn't recognise my video game char's name of 'Ianchesterton' and followed with "I'm A HUIGGGGGE DOCTOR WHO FAN" "Oh i tried watching the old ones but they looked stupid borring so I don't bother" You can't go and say you're the biggest fan ever and then say 26 years of the program sucked. Or that BF is stupid because it's audio. My friends won't even say that. I don't understand it. But then again people were aggressively attacking Jodie for the way she talks, and there are people who said they had been fans of the show for 30 years... and they stopped watching at the end of season 9 because they can't handle a woman likeing woman or the new doctor having a fanny. For what it's worth.... Doctor Who fandom is REALLY tame compared to others, such as The Walkin Dead fandom.
But closed minds sneak into every fandom. I just wish the average closed mind was someone who refuses to watch Galaxy 4 a second time.
Or, like me, thinks 'Space Pirates' is utter garbage and refuses to budge.
That type of stroppy fan I'm happy to be around.
---- A stroppy Whovian named Alice From my experience as an American Who fan, I think it's really more of a matter of people assuming "audio drama" is just another word for "audiobook" here in the States. Every time I try to pitch BF to another fan here, I always have to explain that, no, this isn't a book being read aloud by one person - it's a television show without the visuals. I guess it's just hard for some people to grasp, though. The only other BF fan I have met in person was a community college professor I had a couple years ago. On the topic of people hating the previous 26 years of the show, again, I think in the US it's more a matter of how much of the show people have been exposed to. If I remember correctly, the only classic Doctor most people saw in the US prior to the show's revival in 2005 was the Fourth Doctor and even so, that was for an older audience than the people who probably would have been watching when Russell T. Davies' era really gained some traction in 2005 and 2006. For most people, 2005 onward is the only part of the show they know exists or they just don't feel comfortable talking about an era of the show they know very little about.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 22, 2017 1:36:42 GMT
On the topic of people hating the previous 26 years of the show, again, I think in the US it's more a matter of how much of the show people have been exposed to. If I remember correctly, the only classic Doctor most people saw in the US prior to the show's revival in 2005 was the Fourth Doctor and even so, that was for an older audience than the people who probably would have been watching when Russell T. Davies' era really gained some traction in 2005 and 2006. For most people, 2005 onward is the only part of the show they know exists or they just don't feel comfortable talking about an era of the show they know very little about. I think there is a lot of truth in that. If ones only frame of reference is Doctor Who circa 2005, which honestly is probably most Americans, then yes, the first incarnation of the show could be quite a culture shock. I've always felt lucky that my local public TV station, WYES in New Orleans, was one of the first public stations in the US to broadcast Doctor Who. So I was exposed to the Tom Baker era in my formative years. If I had not had that experience, I don't know if I would have looked at the revival in the same way. People are a product of their upbringing and experiences. If all you know is a slick looking TV show that moves really quickly then yeah, coming around to a show that looks a little rough around the edges and doesn't move so fast can be a tough sell. Same thing with audio drama. Radio has definite roots in this country but again over the past 50 or 60 years as an entertainment culture the US has moved away from radio to TV & movies. Again, I was fortunate in that my Mom was a fan of radio and she has quite a lot of old American radio serials & comedy shows on reel to reel tapes, so the medium was something I listened to along with other media consumption. I would agree that audio drama should not be a tough sell but if someone isn't used to it, well, the unfamiliar can be a difficult thing for people to try and warm up to. And, what were we talking about again? Davros? The Doctor's Daughter? A plot device that simplified the concept of Doctor Who down to its most basic level as a way to reintroduce the show to a modern audience?
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Post by barnabaslives on Oct 22, 2017 5:41:10 GMT
I also like how Jenny's episode The Doctor's Daughter highlighted a character flaw in the Tenth Doctor in how he was initially unable to accept her as his daughter. I think the best episodes show that as much as we find the Doctor a likable protagonist he is still a character with many flaws. I think I took it as being good-hearted and human of The Doctor be accepting under the circumstances. It's kind of thought-provoking, how would I feel if someone took a tissue sample without my consent and an hour later through the magic of science announced I was a parent... Yikes! She is The Doctor's daughter though, and I thought she did cut an impressive figure and one who did some justice to that idea, so how can one really not like her (even aside from Who's all Who in real life)? If there was anything that I think really bugged me it was the idea that The Doctor had family like that who might never be seen again - even if I wasn't sure I approved of the show doing that in the first place - so Big Finish doing anything about the character stands to correct that. As for the Time War, I'm feeling quite a bit better after hearing about the pace that Eight Doctor releases will be coming out. I think for me, the follow-up to DC will make for welcome distraction from how long it's scheduled to take to complete the Time War saga, rather than distraction from the Time War itself. Besides, how can anything that translates to more Paul McGann possibly be a bad thing?
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Post by Ela on Oct 22, 2017 7:01:46 GMT
I know a lot of American fans of Big Finish. Just saying.
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Post by omega on Oct 22, 2017 7:21:07 GMT
To be released later this week according the podcast (no date specified)
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Post by xlozdob on Oct 25, 2017 13:27:12 GMT
Do you guys reckon this will be released tomorrow? It'll be a week since the BBC post on Fb and Thursday is usually the day 8th Doctor releases come out.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 25, 2017 13:34:19 GMT
Do you guys reckon this will be released tomorrow? It'll be a week since the BBC post on Fb and Thursday is usually the day 8th Doctor releases come out. Highly likely I'd say
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 25, 2017 14:35:52 GMT
Do you guys reckon this will be released tomorrow? It'll be a week since the BBC post on Fb and Thursday is usually the day 8th Doctor releases come out. Highly likely I'd say
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I’d say definitely.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 25, 2017 17:27:30 GMT
Highly likely I'd say
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I’d say definitely. Pretty much this. They don't typically release things on a Friday, do they?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 18:55:44 GMT
Monday and Tuesday next week are still part of this month, though, so they might hold off for a Monday release. Especially as Wednesday will be Listeners, so that probably only gives them Thursday for a release day for one of November's titles. We'll see soon enough, I guess.
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Post by baldie2k15 on Oct 25, 2017 19:49:34 GMT
Do you guys reckon this will be released tomorrow? It'll be a week since the BBC post on Fb and Thursday is usually the day 8th Doctor releases come out. Highly likely I'd say
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Hope so
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Post by kurumais on Oct 25, 2017 20:31:55 GMT
im thinking it will be the last release of the month
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Post by mark687 on Oct 25, 2017 20:33:55 GMT
im thinking it will be the last release of the month It is already everything else is out
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