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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 8:46:53 GMT
Take a Doctor and his companions from their respective era and plop them down in a story created for one of their predecessors/successors. How much of the story would change, if any of it at all?
For example, the Doctor, Susan, Ian and Barbara in The Silurians.
The Doctor and Barbara side with the cave monsters while Ian (whose national service posted him with some of the soldiers affected by this conflict) and Susan (who is distraught following a rather grotesque telepathic encounter with one of the reptiles) rally around the British Army tasked with defending Wenley Moor from the invaders. However, I think at some point in the narrative, Barbara and Susan would have swapped sides with Susan overcoming her prejudice and Barbara becoming so overexposed to the Silurians' capacity for evil through Morkal that she eventually chooses to side with Ian. The destruction of the shelter would have left a gulf between the Doctor and Ian, which I think would be dealt with by having time pass before the end credits. Susan would prevent the Doctor from leaving Earth without the two schoolteachers and Barbara would try to mediate between the two of them. It'd certainly be a state of affairs that would transfer over into further stories with the crew.
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Post by seeley on Mar 9, 2016 20:16:55 GMT
Take a Doctor and his companions from their respective era and plop them down in a story created for one of their predecessors/successors. How much of the story would change, if any of it at all? For example, the Doctor, Susan, Ian and Barbara in The Silurians. The Doctor and Barbara side with the cave monsters while Ian (whose national service posted him with some of the soldiers affected by this conflict) and Susan (who is distraught following a rather grotesque telepathic encounter with one of the reptiles) rally around the British Army tasked with defending Wenley Moor from the invaders. However, I think at some point in the narrative, Barbara and Susan would have swapped sides with Susan overcoming her prejudice and Barbara becoming so overexposed to the Silurians' capacity for evil through Morkal that she eventually chooses to side with Ian. The destruction of the shelter would have left a gulf between the Doctor and Ian, which I think would be dealt with by having time pass before the end credits. Susan would prevent the Doctor from leaving Earth without the two schoolteachers and Barbara would try to mediate between the two of them. It'd certainly be a state of affairs that would transfer over into further stories with the crew. This assumes that the First Doctor at this point would have any problem with blowing the Silurians to kingdom come. Heck, the Second Doctor seemed to lack any qualms about sending an Ice Warrior fleet into the sun. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 21:37:25 GMT
Take a Doctor and his companions from their respective era and plop them down in a story created for one of their predecessors/successors. How much of the story would change, if any of it at all? For example, the Doctor, Susan, Ian and Barbara in The Silurians. The Doctor and Barbara side with the cave monsters while Ian (whose national service posted him with some of the soldiers affected by this conflict) and Susan (who is distraught following a rather grotesque telepathic encounter with one of the reptiles) rally around the British Army tasked with defending Wenley Moor from the invaders. However, I think at some point in the narrative, Barbara and Susan would have swapped sides with Susan overcoming her prejudice and Barbara becoming so overexposed to the Silurians' capacity for evil through Morkal that she eventually chooses to side with Ian. The destruction of the shelter would have left a gulf between the Doctor and Ian, which I think would be dealt with by having time pass before the end credits. Susan would prevent the Doctor from leaving Earth without the two schoolteachers and Barbara would try to mediate between the two of them. It'd certainly be a state of affairs that would transfer over into further stories with the crew. This assumes that the First Doctor at this point would have any problem with blowing the Silurians to kingdom come. Heck, the Second Doctor seemed to lack any qualms about sending an Ice Warrior fleet into the sun. That's very true. Hmm... I can see him instinctively siding with the technologically superior civilisation, but it could easily be swapped to Ian and the Doctor, and Barbara and Susan with Susan becoming disenchanted and the Doctor realising his error. I can't help but feel he'd have some sympathy for an intelligence that is unable to reclaim its home though and his curiosity would have nevertheless been piqued by the appearance of the dinosaur in the caves, leading him to the Silurians' enclave. I do think it would probably have ended with the Doctor speculating that perhaps the Silurians weren't worth saving after all with Susan and (ironically) Barbara disgusted by the idea. |
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Post by seeley on Mar 9, 2016 21:51:25 GMT
I can't help but feel he'd have some sympathy for an intelligence that is unable to reclaim its home though and his curiosity would have nevertheless been piqued by the appearance of the dinosaur in the caves, leading him to the Silurians' enclave. He'd definitely respect the Head Scientist. The question is what he'd do after Imorkal's coup. He wasn't especially enamored of humanity, at this point, so I imagine his actions would largely hinge on Susan's safety. Another possibility, given his behavior in the Aztecs and the Time Meddler, is that he'd go all Time's Champion, and try to prevent history from being changed, regardless of the consequences. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 22:07:23 GMT
I can't help but feel he'd have some sympathy for an intelligence that is unable to reclaim its home though and his curiosity would have nevertheless been piqued by the appearance of the dinosaur in the caves, leading him to the Silurians' enclave. He'd definitely respect the Head Scientist. The question is what he'd do after Imorkal's coup. He wasn't especially enamored of humanity, at this point, so I imagine his actions would largely hinge on Susan's safety. Another possibility, given his behavior in the Aztecs and the Time Meddler, is that he'd go all Time's Champion, and try to prevent history from being changed, regardless of the consequences. Oh, hey. It would be interesting to place this before The Aztecs and have him in a morally grey area where he hasn't encountered any future historical records of the Silurian race, so just this once he takes a gamble and pays for it. He'd probably be trying to organise the detente for Susan's sake rather than that of the two schoolteachers. I can definitely see the Doctor walking in after the coup demanding to speak to the scientist, K'to, only for Morka to reveal his intention to revive the entire shelter using the humans as a slave workforce. Ian comes in and fulfills the position of the Brigadier by shooting down the Silurian before he has the opportunity to kill him, but the Doctor remains adamant that he can contact K'to and reason with him. I can see Ian and Barbara being on the periphery of the shelter's destruction, seeing the soldiers do a sweep of the moor in the distance before realising that they're lining explosives to seal the bunker forever. The two of them would rush down to warn the Doctor, but too late. Susan feels the Silurian minds dying before everyone can see the explosions themselves and at that point, the Doctor would just erupt at Ian and Barbara, placing the blame squarely on their shoulders and forbidding them from ever again travelling aboard the TARDIS. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 22:51:15 GMT
The Fourth Doctor and Sarah Jane in Sleep No More.
Nothing would have changed.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 10, 2016 14:29:00 GMT
Eight and Charley in Horror of Fang Rock. Don't think much would change mind, but i think it would be cool
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 10, 2016 15:03:38 GMT
The 7th Doctor and Ace in The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon. 7 would have got fed up a few times at the Silence being as good at manipulation as him.
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Post by seeley on Mar 10, 2016 19:37:24 GMT
Eight and Charley in Horror of Fang Rock. Don't think much would change mind, but i think it would be cool I can't quite imagine Eight (or any other Doctor, save Four, for that matter) doing the "by morning we might all be dead" moment.  Now, if Six had done that, it would probably have been decried as tasteless, unDoctorish, and all around uncharming. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 11, 2016 9:23:04 GMT
The War Doctor in Time of the Doctor would have been interesting. Imagine him having to fight two completely different wars at the same time (Trenzalore and Time War). How would he cope?
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