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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 9, 2020 15:59:51 GMT
I'm going to watch Rose later this evening for no particular reason!
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Post by constonks on Aug 10, 2020 2:54:57 GMT
The Invisible Enemy. A big silly romp with a goofy looking transparent prawn virus as the enemy. Also, K9!
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Post by antartiks on Aug 10, 2020 14:37:25 GMT
Just rewatched series 6 and The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe. I really think the Matt Smith era is the nadir of NuWho, I just really, heavily dislike that era of the show. People often call me mad when I say I prefer series 11 and 12 over series 6 and 7 but I don't care, I find the Jodie era to be far more entertaining and promising thus far.
I don't like Amy, I don't like River in that era, I hate Clara and the Eleven (nothing against Matt Smith, but his clownish Doctor is my least favorite even though I was never a fan of Davison or Tom Baker) and I think Moffat more than redeemed himself in my eyes when he later wrote for Capaldi, especially series 9 and 10.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:53:46 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks.
Poor old Daleks clattering around, the wobbliest Davros ever, a new Romana, some splendid Seventies disco robots and The Fourth Doctor having a great time. I've never understood why this isn't more universally loved. Possibly it is because as a sequel of sorts to the epic Genesis, this story is entirely different in style - but still huge fun. I remember being very impressed when Lalla kicked off the Commander's arm. No wonder Tom married her!
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Post by sherlock on Aug 10, 2020 16:29:10 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks.
Poor old Daleks clattering around, the wobbliest Davros ever, a new Romana, some splendid Seventies disco robots and The Fourth Doctor having a great time. I've never understood why this isn't more universally loved. Possibly it is because as a sequel of sorts to the epic Genesis, this story is entirely different in style - but still huge fun. I remember being very impressed when Lalla kicked off the Commander's arm. No wonder Tom married her!
Destiny was the first classic Dalek story I watched so I’ve always had a fondness for it. Bless those poor battered Dalek props.
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Post by jacobz40 on Aug 10, 2020 19:25:42 GMT
Watched the first two episodes of The Krotons. Almost done with Troughton! D:
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Post by mark687 on Aug 10, 2020 19:32:42 GMT
So while an Entertainment Miracle was performed yesterday I was finishing Season 14 Blu-Ray with Robots of Death (Who does Whoddunitt (no not the Game Show this time ) Talons (Excellent as always but I prefer Big Fuzzy ) Regards mark687
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Post by grinch on Aug 10, 2020 22:18:12 GMT
Rose (Russell T Davies)
Why am I watching this one in particular?
No reason. 😉
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Post by polly on Aug 10, 2020 22:47:34 GMT
Just rewatched series 6 and The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe. I really think the Matt Smith era is the nadir of NuWho, I just really, heavily dislike that era of the show. People often call me mad when I say I prefer series 11 and 12 over series 6 and 7 but I don't care, I find the Jodie era to be far more entertaining and promising thus far. I don't like Amy, I don't like River in that era, I hate Clara and the Eleven (nothing against Matt Smith, but his clownish Doctor is my least favorite even though I was never a fan of Davison or Tom Baker) and I think Moffat more than redeemed himself in my eyes when he later wrote for Capaldi, especially series 9 and 10. I'm not a big fan of the era, either. That's where my general frustration with the new series really took root. By the midpoint of Series 7, Mr Polly was beginning to voice his annoyance as well. For me, it was less down to the actors and more the writing style and general tone of the series. I never did take to Clara, though. Although, I don't like a lot of the choices made during the Capaldi era, either, but I thought 12 was a better Doctor and Series 8 especially seemed like it was going in the right direction. We quit after Series 10 because it was a clean break and I just couldn't take any more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 21:51:18 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks. Poor old Daleks clattering around, the wobbliest Davros ever, a new Romana, some splendid Seventies disco robots and The Fourth Doctor having a great time. I've never understood why this isn't more universally loved. Possibly it is because as a sequel of sorts to the epic Genesis, this story is entirely different in style - but still huge fun. I remember being very impressed when Lalla kicked off the Commander's arm. No wonder Tom married her!
I appreciate too that they had enough restraint to avoid the obvious quip with Sharrel when they're tossing boulders at the end:
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Post by polly on Aug 11, 2020 23:01:42 GMT
Caves of Androzani - One of the all-time greats, and the second-best regeneration story after War Games. But on this viewing, it struck me as odd how often characters like Morgus will turn to the camera and deliver Shakesperean asides which other characters seem not to hear. It's a very strange choice for the television medium.
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 12, 2020 7:35:48 GMT
Caves of Androzani - One of the all-time greats, and the second-best regeneration story after War Games. But on this viewing, it struck me as odd how often characters like Morgus will turn to the camera and deliver Shakesperean asides which other characters seem not to hear. It's a very strange choice for the television medium. They explain it in the audio commentary... started out as an accident, but then they decided to keep it and expand it. I actually think it is a great stylistic method.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 10:13:07 GMT
Caves of Androzani - One of the all-time greats, and the second-best regeneration story after War Games. But on this viewing, it struck me as odd how often characters like Morgus will turn to the camera and deliver Shakesperean asides which other characters seem not to hear. It's a very strange choice for the television medium. They explain it in the audio commentary... started out as an accident, but then they decided to keep it and expand it. I actually think it is a great stylistic method.
Particularly for a villain. Jek is rather open with his motives (and his anguish), but Morgus keeps it all wrapped up beneath this passionless veneer. No one knows what he's thinking moment-by-moment except the audience, which helps to emphasise that throne of power he's established on Androzani Major. It's also a bit uncomfortable, in the best possible way, being able to see the wheels turning in his head. Cool and detached on the outside, but a deeply impulsive fellow on the inside (not to far removed from Jek, actually, if you took away the Conglomerate office...).
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Post by sherlock on Aug 12, 2020 10:19:53 GMT
Caves of Androzani - One of the all-time greats, and the second-best regeneration story after War Games. But on this viewing, it struck me as odd how often characters like Morgus will turn to the camera and deliver Shakesperean asides which other characters seem not to hear. It's a very strange choice for the television medium. I believe as scripted Morgus was just supposed to murmur to himself (itself an odd choice), but the actor misinterpreted that as the Shakespearean asides which the director liked so they went with that. I like the asides. It’s very different by Who standards and kinda adds to grand tragedy of it all.
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Post by number13 on Aug 12, 2020 10:52:46 GMT
Caves of Androzani - One of the all-time greats, and the second-best regeneration story after War Games. But on this viewing, it struck me as odd how often characters like Morgus will turn to the camera and deliver Shakesperean asides which other characters seem not to hear. It's a very strange choice for the television medium. They explain it in the audio commentary... started out as an accident, but then they decided to keep it and expand it. I actually think it is a great stylistic method.
Yes, one more special feature in a superb story/production. With hindsight the technique is also very 'House of Cards' (UK BBC 1990 version) - another story about scheming, devious people outwitting each other and themselves - but 'Doctor Who' got there first!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 13:36:16 GMT
They explain it in the audio commentary... started out as an accident, but then they decided to keep it and expand it. I actually think it is a great stylistic method.
Yes, one more special feature in a superb story/production. With hindsight the technique is also very 'House of Cards' (UK BBC 1990 version) - another story about scheming, devious people outwitting each other and themselves - but 'Doctor Who' got there first! With Robert Holmes, like The Ark in Space and The Deadly Assassin before it, once again beating the pop culture curve by a number of years. On the flip aside, I decided to sit down and rewatch The Face of Evil. Is this the first time that the Fourth Doctor breaks the, erm, fourth wall? I had a bit of a ponder about why his incarnation more than others feels more at home chatting directly to the camera. For me... I think it's because it feels like at any moment we could cut to another shot and he's talking to a piece of the scenery. A relaxed-looking willow tree, the bust of a former Lord President or a freshly-packed snowman, that sort of thing.
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Post by constonks on Aug 12, 2020 17:04:51 GMT
Yes, one more special feature in a superb story/production. With hindsight the technique is also very 'House of Cards' (UK BBC 1990 version) - another story about scheming, devious people outwitting each other and themselves - but 'Doctor Who' got there first! With Robert Holmes, like The Ark in Space and The Deadly Assassin before it, once again beating the pop culture curve by a number of years. On the flip aside, I decided to sit down and rewatch The Face of Evil. Is this the first time that the Fourth Doctor breaks the, erm, fourth wall? I had a bit of a ponder about why his incarnation more than others feels more at home chatting directly to the camera. For me... I think it's because it feels like at any moment we could cut to another shot and he's talking to a piece of the scenery. A relaxed-looking willow tree, the bust of a former Lord President or a freshly-packed snowman, that sort of thing. I think the Fourth Doctor definitely imagines an audience for his adventures, like the way the Twelfth Doctor does. Of course, That Other Tom Baker Doctor is even more aware of the fourth wall - especially in the Day of the Doctor novelisation! (and of course his appearance on the Shada VHS )
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Post by polly on Aug 12, 2020 18:03:24 GMT
They explain it in the audio commentary... started out as an accident, but then they decided to keep it and expand it. I actually think it is a great stylistic method.
I believe as scripted Morgus was just supposed to murmur to himself (itself an odd choice), but the actor misinterpreted that as the Shakespearean asides which the director liked so they went with that. I like the asides. It’s very different by Who standards and kinda adds to grand tragedy of it all. Ah, I see. Well, points for creativity, I suppose. I used to delve into the extras quite thoroughly but stopped somewhere around Hand of Fear. I have to disagree with you both, though, the asides are jarring to me. It doesn't fit the otherwise gritty tone of the story. If the entire tale were made as a deliberate homage to live theatre or something, I'd go with it, but as it is, it seems out of place and somewhat comical.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 12, 2020 18:12:54 GMT
Dalek. Fantastic episode of the 9th Doctor's first (& only) TV season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 19:10:59 GMT
The Horror of Fang Rock.
Considering Graham Williams was brought in to produce Doctor Who to 'lighten it up' after the perceived horror and violence of Philip Hinchcliffe's era, he waited until his second story to deliver the goods. Here we have the hastily written lighthouse story debut, the recording of which was so disliked by Tom Baker, his Doctor had a notable 'nark-on' throughout this. So much for lightening up, with {Spoiler} everyone dead by the story's close! I wouldn't wish to sound like I'm knocking this story, because I love it! The lighthouse and surrounding grounds are beautifully recreated in the studio, and the Rutan creature is suitably icky.
This is a story I believe has actually improved with age. An ensemble piece, a drawing room drama, played out as if a theatre play - only set in an isolated outpost and featuring a slime-ball that can reanimate corpses!. Possibly the spookiest story of Williams' tenure, Tom's bad mood actually lends it an even greater sense of melancholy and doom. Lovely!
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