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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 18:42:14 GMT
And now the fourth Pearl Mackie one 😂😂 Knock Knock Are you doing a whole 12 era rewatch?😊 Yes from start to finish
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Post by timegirl on Jan 25, 2021 18:43:21 GMT
Are you doing a whole 12 era rewatch?😊 Yes from start to finish Any new insights?🤔😊
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 18:47:58 GMT
Lots and lots lol...the whole Pearl series is like a reboot I always liked `Capaldi but I like him more in this series so far I guess I was just going through a tired period in my life...I am still contemplating Clara who is so much better not dealing with arc heavy stuff such as in Flat Line etc ..I do not get the romantic angle though at all I see the lengths someone will go for a friend....there just need in Dr Who to be completely stand alone episodes I feel with no arcs just as in Classic Who
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Post by timegirl on Jan 25, 2021 19:19:21 GMT
Lots and lots lol...the whole Pearl series is like a reboot I always liked `Capaldi but I like him more in this series so far I guess I was just going through a tired period in my life...I am still contemplating Clara who is so much better not dealing with arc heavy stuff such as in Flat Line etc ..I do not get the romantic angle though at all I see the lengths someone will go for a friend....there just need in Dr Who to be completely stand alone episodes I feel with no arcs just as in Classic Who Interesting, rewatching who always brings out new things! Capaldi’s era has a lot of layers doesn’t it?! I can see the friendship angle too I guess. I personally don’t think it was just friendship between 12 and Clara due to a lot of subtext I noticed between them but I can see deep friendship too. Personally I love who story arches as long as they are done well and character focus, to me even though I enjoy Classic Who I have difficulty getting as invested in them because they feel like they have less drive and emotion at times. I could not imagine the Capaldi era without its beautiful story arches and character development. I guess since I have an overall preference for Modern Who is where I get my love of Who story arch and romance from.That and I am all about getting wrapped up in passionate emotions and feelings when it comes to fiction. But if you have more fondness for classic Who, I can see where you would prefer more stand alone episodes and platonic Doctor Companion relationships. Standalone stories do have value too and so do platonic Doctor Companion relationships. Both Modern and Classic are good in different ways it’s just a matter of preference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 19:50:52 GMT
Lots and lots lol...the whole Pearl series is like a reboot I always liked `Capaldi but I like him more in this series so far I guess I was just going through a tired period in my life...I am still contemplating Clara who is so much better not dealing with arc heavy stuff such as in Flat Line etc ..I do not get the romantic angle though at all I see the lengths someone will go for a friend....there just need in Dr Who to be completely stand alone episodes I feel with no arcs just as in Classic Who Interesting, rewatching who always brings out new things! Capaldi’s era has a lot of layers doesn’t it?! I can see the friendship angle too I guess. I personally don’t think it was just friendship between 12 and Clara due to a lot of subtext I noticed between them but I can see deep friendship too. Personally I love who story arches as long as they are done well and character focus, to me even though I enjoy Classic Who I have difficulty getting as invested in them because they feel like they have less drive and emotion at times. I could not imagine the Capaldi era without its beautiful story arches and character development. I guess since I have an overall preference for Modern Who is where I get my love of Who story arch and romance from.That and I am all about getting wrapped up in passionate emotions and feelings when it comes to fiction. But if you have more fondness for classic Who, I can see where you would prefer more stand alone episodes and platonic Doctor Companion relationships. Standalone stories do have value too and so do platonic Doctor Companion relationships. Both Modern and Classic are good in different ways it’s just a matter of preference. I can enjoy both but I prefer self contained stories...for most part...well bedtime for me nighty night folks
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jan 25, 2021 20:35:09 GMT
Are you doing a whole 12 era rewatch?😊 Yes from start to finish Good luck!
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 26, 2021 0:11:00 GMT
And now the fourth Pearl Mackie one 😂😂 Knock Knock Who’s there?
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Post by melkur on Jan 26, 2021 0:51:55 GMT
Over the past few days I've been watching 'The Creature From The Pit' for the first time in quite a while and, you know what? Whilst it's far from perfect, I actually enjoyed it more than I remembered!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 3:08:13 GMT
Remembrance of the Daleks.
I mean to say, I love Series 24, and I'll dish out a level stare to anyone who says different, but this first story of the following series is such a gargantuan leap forward it takes the breath away. You want half a dozen Daleks blown to pieces along with much of London? You want a space shuttle in a playground? It's all here, the real thing - no CGI here, kids. A killer cameo from Davros, just when you think that particular trick has been covered. Also - that great, gallumping, stained death-dealer The Special Weapons Dalek makes its first appearance! It's true to say the Daleks on location seem to wobble more on DVD than they did back in 1988, but who cares? This is a first rate story put together with obvious love and attention. What a way to celebrate (the first) 25 years Tis a masterpiece and a great final story for the Daleks in the classic series. Just unfortunate the Cybermen couldn’t get the same treatment. I've got a bit of a quirk when it comes to stories about recurring villains. I tend to divide them down into a further two categories -- starring and featuring. The Two Doctors, for example, is great but isn't really about the Sontarans. It's much more about the Androgums and their Grigs. The First Sontarans feels a much better fit for their "starring monster" story. Remembrance, for me, is this bracing rush of fresh air because for the first time since 1974, we've got a story starring --rather than featuring -- the Daleks. They're out in full-force from beginning to end with Davros taking up the "featuring" role. Silver Nemesis, by comparison, is one of those stories where the Cybermen are... present, but it's much more about Peinforte. You could replace the Cybermen with private industrialist descendants of the Roundheads and not lose too much in the process. I think if there were a story you could retell in a Donald Cotton-style Target novelisation it'd be Nemesis. I've always been curious about the Doctor's comment about: "Oh, those are ground troops, you should see the ones in orbit." Andrew Cartmel's The Good Soldier did something very similar where the creatures on the ground were indistinguishable from their Tenth Planet bretheren. But then we get to see them in their own environment, which is inimicable to what we expect. Much more advanced.
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Post by polly on Jan 26, 2021 6:09:14 GMT
Survival - Here we are at the end once more. Well, sort of. Yes, there's the TV movie. Yes, there's Big Finish, and the revival series. But it's still very bittersweet. The show certainly struggled at times through the mid to late 80s, and sometimes I can understand why it wasn't the mainstream hit it once was. Not that the BBC's meddling helped, either. But on the strength of Season 26? Hell yes, I want to see more. For most shows, 5-7 seasons is the sweet spot, but Doctor Who isn't most shows. If nothing else, I'd have liked a 27th season to tie up the McCoy/Ace era, and bow out with more closure. Ah, but if they'd done that, then would there have been the enduring fan interest? Would we have ever gotten that TV movie? After all, Eight is my Doctor, as we say around here, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I guess sometimes things just have to be the way they are. This also more or less concludes my education of Mr Polly. He has now seen everything from Hartnell to Capaldi except the aforementioned McGann film. On this side of the ocean, Star Trek is by far the most dominant SF franchise on television. But, being a dork, he had certainly read about Doctor Who and other things like Red Dwarf. While he's not as die-hard a fan as I am (and nearly went on strike during Colin's worst days), he says it's quite an achievement to have seen nearly every episode of a series that once seemed like an immense, impenetrable curiosity. And after two and a half years, he says it will be strange for Doctor Who to stop being a regular part of our evenings, at least for a while. I guess I'll have to get cracking on making a Babylon 5 fan out of him, then. We've got work to do.
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Post by constonks on Jan 27, 2021 5:55:32 GMT
Daleks episode 7 this morning, The Edge of Destruction in the afternoon, Marco Polo 1 around midnight. That last one is a "what are you listening to?" I guess but whatever.
I forgot how strange Edge is - everyone acts like they're drugged for the first half. Plus, it's more ambiguous than I remember as well. At what point does the violence and anger stop being the effect of the TARDIS and start being what the Doctor and his companions are really thinking? It's also strange by the standards of later Who -- the Doctor not knowing the TARDIS is alive is particularly odd! At some point I'm going to have to read the novelisation and see what Nigel Robinson did with this one...
As for Marco, well, this one's one of my favourites, even if this is only my second listen. My thoughts on Episode 1 this time around:
1. I was thinking about how much Dorney's Alexander the Great and Eden's Marco Polo reminded me of each other and then Marco went and mentioned Alexander in dialogue!
2. I love that the Doctor's last lines in this episode are just him laughing hysterically at the fact that Marco told him to build another TARDIS in Venice and admitting he has no clue how they're going to get out of this one. Just great to hear Hartnell break down laughing, especially after the last three stories were so bleak. Not that this one's a *comedy* but there's a lighter touch at work here.
3. I'm a little sad that at no point does the Doctor go "well, Chesterton, there, 1289! I've gotten you home to your time, or near enough."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 9:07:21 GMT
Daleks episode 7 this morning, The Edge of Destruction in the afternoon, Marco Polo 1 around midnight. That last one is a "what are you listening to?" I guess but whatever. I forgot how strange Edge is - everyone acts like they're drugged for the first half. Plus, it's more ambiguous than I remember as well. At what point does the violence and anger stop being the effect of the TARDIS and start being what the Doctor and his companions are really thinking? It's also strange by the standards of later Who -- the Doctor not knowing the TARDIS is alive is particularly odd! At some point I'm going to have to read the novelisation and see what Nigel Robinson did with this one...As for Marco, well, this one's one of my favourites, even if this is only my second listen. My thoughts on Episode 1 this time around: 1. I was thinking about how much Dorney's Alexander the Great and Eden's Marco Polo reminded me of each other and then Marco went and mentioned Alexander in dialogue! 2. I love that the Doctor's last lines in this episode are just him laughing hysterically at the fact that Marco told him to build another TARDIS in Venice and admitting he has no clue how they're going to get out of this one. Just great to hear Hartnell break down laughing, especially after the last three stories were so bleak. Not that this one's a *comedy* but there's a lighter touch at work here. 3. I'm a little sad that at no point does the Doctor go "well, Chesterton, there, 1289! I've gotten you home to your time, or near enough." Oh, it's a goodun'. Edge of Destruction's novelisation was originally published in 1988, so... It actually factors in some of the additional 24 years of lore on the way. I won't say what ( *taps nose*), but the expansions are well done, I thought. It has a nice, light touch.
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Post by melkur on Jan 30, 2021 0:31:04 GMT
Over the past few evenings I've been making my way through 'The Nightmare Of Eden'. Whilst, of course, not top-tier, given its' troubled production, I've gained a bit of an appreciation for it...
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Post by elkawho on Jan 30, 2021 15:39:24 GMT
Last night I watched Robots of Death with my Who group. Yes, we watched it together, in person at the Moose Lodge that has been giving us the space for the last 3 years. We were masked distanced, but together. I can't tell you how excited I was to actually go somewhere socially (not work). The idea of having someplace to go to have fun seems foreign these days.
This was my first re-watch of this story since the Robots range started, and it was pretty cool viewing it now with more knowledge of Kaldor and it's history and future. Also, watching Poul's breakdown after listening to the last boxset story Circuit Breaker was even more harrowing. I have always liked this story, however I like it even more due to Big Finish!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 16:33:18 GMT
Over the past few evenings I've been making my way through 'The Nightmare Of Eden'. Whilst, of course, not top-tier, given its' troubled production, I've gained a bit of an appreciation for it... There can few gentler ways to expire than from a Mandrel hug!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 20:09:05 GMT
Extremis The Pyramid At The End Of The World The Lie Of The Land
Capaldi is far becoming one of my favourite Doctors
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Extremis The Pyramid At The End Of The World The Lie Of The Land Capaldi is far becoming one of my favourite Doctors He's brilliant isn't he. On my view, he has grown on me even more since he left the role and is viewed retrospectively. I only really point this out because the other 'Nu Who' (never too keen on that term) Doctors I rarely revisit - much to my own surprise. Capaldi's stories, however, have had a number of revisits, and there's always something new to see in his performance,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 22:59:32 GMT
Extremis The Pyramid At The End Of The World The Lie Of The Land Capaldi is far becoming one of my favourite Doctors He's brilliant isn't he. On my view, he has grown on me even more since he left the role and is viewed retrospectively. I only really point this out because the other 'Nu Who' (never too keen on that term) Doctors I rarely revisit - much to my own surprise. Capaldi's stories, however, have had a number of revisits, and there's always something new to see in his performance, I think his three series are like McCoy's. I did not really like their first (script & character wise), but their second was much better and their third was a different league altogether. Peter Capaldi was always consistent as an actor, but became more of 'The Doctor' we know from series 2 and more so by his series 3. I found an emotional depth in the series that others had got for years, but had not connected with me. Not since Christopher Eccleston had I believed so much in the sincerity of the character. I was very sorry that this period came to an end at such a peak. The Cyber Bill Potts, Missy & Master trying to kill each other, the fate of Nardole, there was so much tragedy and pathos well toned and not 'bolted on'. And then it was all gone, almost as if it never happened (as is always the way with the rejuvenation cycles of the show)....
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 31, 2021 1:16:21 GMT
He's brilliant isn't he. On my view, he has grown on me even more since he left the role and is viewed retrospectively. I only really point this out because the other 'Nu Who' (never too keen on that term) Doctors I rarely revisit - much to my own surprise. Capaldi's stories, however, have had a number of revisits, and there's always something new to see in his performance, I think his three series are like McCoy's. I did not really like their first (script & character wise), but their second was much better and their third was a different league altogether. Peter Capaldi was always consistent as an actor, but became more of 'The Doctor' we know from series 2 and more so by his series 3. I found an emotional depth in the series that others had got for years, but had not connected with me. Not since Christopher Eccleston had I believed so much in the sincerity of the character. I was very sorry that this period came to an end at such a peak. The Cyber Bill Potts, Missy & Master trying to kill each other, the fate of Nardole, there was so much tragedy and pathos well toned and not 'bolted on'. And then it was all gone, almost as if it never happened (as is always the way with the rejuvenation cycles of the show).... He owned the part from the beginning and the writers took their sweet time catching up. He’s consistent all the way through. I think he’s one of the best actors to ever take the part.
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Post by timegirl on Jan 31, 2021 1:39:47 GMT
I think his three series are like McCoy's. I did not really like their first (script & character wise), but their second was much better and their third was a different league altogether. Peter Capaldi was always consistent as an actor, but became more of 'The Doctor' we know from series 2 and more so by his series 3. I found an emotional depth in the series that others had got for years, but had not connected with me. Not since Christopher Eccleston had I believed so much in the sincerity of the character. I was very sorry that this period came to an end at such a peak. The Cyber Bill Potts, Missy & Master trying to kill each other, the fate of Nardole, there was so much tragedy and pathos well toned and not 'bolted on'. And then it was all gone, almost as if it never happened (as is always the way with the rejuvenation cycles of the show).... He owned the part from the beginning and the writers took their sweet time catching up. He’s consistent all the way through. I think he’s one of the best actors to ever take the part. Best ever Doctor! Peter is amazing! Every expression and line has so much subtext. Although I like a lot of the writing too, 12 has the best written arch of any Doctor!😊
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