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Post by kfbate on Aug 22, 2022 18:27:15 GMT
I am watching some classic Pertwee to start the week off. With a lovely dose of Terror of the Autons. I just love a bit of Delgardo and that buttery smooth old style video that the BBC filmed this stuff on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2022 18:28:28 GMT
I am watching some classic Pertwee to start the week off. With a lovely dose of Revenge of the Autons. I just love a bit of Delgardo and that buttery smooth old style video that the BBC filmed this stuff on. Don’t you mean Terror of the Autons?
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Post by kfbate on Aug 22, 2022 19:12:38 GMT
I did, forgive me its Monday and it already feels like a week. However what about if they had of made Revenge of the Autons, now how would that have played out, and which Dr would that have suited.
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Post by ollychops on Aug 22, 2022 19:28:52 GMT
Watched Timelash for the first time last night…
Hm.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 24, 2022 21:57:54 GMT
The Ambassadors of Death
Patching a hole in Season 7 I hadn’t seen before. It felt oddly flat.
I wanted to like this more than I did. Conceptually it’s great; creepy aliens, human factions as the villains, embroiling a little “realistic” space into the mix. But the pacing felt very sluggish and the supporting characters are just not that compelling. General Carrington gets a nice dose of character work but it comes quite late in the day. Also maybe I’m spoiled by the Gerry Anderson productions of the time but goddamn that rocket model shot was tragic.
I will say though; that scene of UNIT soldiers crammed into Bessie made the whole experience worth it. Comedy gold.
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Post by kfbate on Aug 25, 2022 17:13:39 GMT
Three Doctors tonight and some home cooked steamed vegetables and rice. Whilst my cat falls asleep, as its still "muggy" and "close" the weather and me and her are loving the rainy scenes from the production, along with the classic early 70's synth music and sounds.
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Post by bonehead on Aug 26, 2022 16:02:15 GMT
I've had Series 18 on BluRay for some time now, and I don't think I've watched the Behind The Sofa extras. I'm rectifying that from today - the first one, were Tegan, Nyssa, Zoe, The Fourth Doctor, K9 and June Hudson watch The Leisure Hive, is just wonderful and oozing with light-heartedness and positivity. I'm sorry that Wendy Padbury and Janet Fielding haven't had their own series.
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Post by bonehead on Aug 27, 2022 17:42:46 GMT
Series 18 Blu-ray: Behind the Sofa.
Tom Baker and John Leeson are watching 'Meglos.'
John: Cactuses. Do you remember a cactus, Tom?
Tom: I don't know. Was she *very* beautiful?
What enjoyable extras these are!
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Post by elkawho on Aug 28, 2022 15:45:44 GMT
I watched the first 4 episodes of The Invasion with my Doctor Who viewing group this week, we will complete it at our next meet up in 2 weeks. I have only seen it completely through once before and I had forgotten just how good it is. (I am embarrassed to say that I didn't even like it on first viewing. I was new to Classic Who and I don't think I was in the right frame of mind. But I've changed my mind regarding the quality of this story over the years and yes, I can admit when I was horribly wrong. It's outstanding.)
One of my friends in the group had never seen it and he didn't know that it is a Cybermen story. At the end of episode 4 with the (animated) Cyberman reveal he jumped up, pointed to the screen and shouted "Oh my god!" It may have been the best moment ever with that group. It was a fabulous response. Of course, he was quite embarrassed, but we told him not to be.
As for the animation, it's really good. Amazing that it was the first story to have added animated episodes, and I think it's one of the best animations we've had. I do think it's one of the best Who stories ever.
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Post by masterdoctor on Aug 28, 2022 15:58:04 GMT
I watched the first 4 episodes of The Invasion with my Doctor Who viewing group this week, we will complete it at our next meet up in 2 weeks. I have only seen it completely through once before and I had forgotten just how good it is. (I am embarrassed to say that I didn't even like it on first viewing. I was new to Classic Who and I don't think I was in the right frame of mind. But I've changed my mind regarding the quality of this story over the years and yes, I can admit when I was horribly wrong. It's outstanding.) One of my friends in the group had never seen it and he didn't know that it is a Cybermen story. At the end of episode 4 with the (animated) Cyberman reveal he jumped up, pointed to the screen and shouted "Oh my god!" It may have been the best moment ever with that group. It was a fabulous response. Of course, he was quite embarrassed, but we told him not to be. As for the animation, it's really good. Amazing that it was the first story to have added animated episodes, and I think it's one of the best animations we've had. I do think it's one of the best Who stories ever. I think it’s 2’s best story, which might be sacrilege to some, but it’s near perfect in my books and is definitely in my top 5 of 60’s Who at least.
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Post by bonehead on Sept 10, 2022 17:24:38 GMT
The Evil of the Daleks.
My strongest memory of this wonderful story is from the mid Nineties. JNT supervised BBC Audio soundtracks released with linking narration on cassette. I've great memories of trying to work out what was going on during some of the lengthier dialogue-free scenes, but above all, really loving the tale. And here it is again, with some episodes animated with mostly fine results. The story's the thing though - seven episodes of schemimng Daleks, time travel, the Doctor and Jamie squabbling, a superb mad scientist and 'the final end' of Skaro's finest. Love it.
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Post by melkur on Sept 16, 2022 23:44:55 GMT
Over the past few weeks I've made my way through the Colin Baker years, and have been doing 'Time & The Rani' this week (part 2, coincidentally, on its 35th anniversary). I don't mind it, but my PS3 refused to play the second half... Everyone's a critic.
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Post by newt5996 on Sept 17, 2022 4:47:03 GMT
My copy of The Abominable Snowmen arrived so I watched that, this time I went with black and white plus the existing episode. I quite enjoyed the story now that it moved a little more but have come to the conclusion that the lack of a score is the detriment. I’m not sure how many Doctor Who stories don’t have incidental music of any kind but this one just does more special sounds and it does not work. The animation is actually quite nice and being a more wide open story helps the style a lot and there was a lot of care to play with some of the more abstract story ideas.
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Post by bonehead on Sept 17, 2022 17:23:41 GMT
Strange how some quieter stories slip off the radar. I've just watched The Lodger, I think for the first time since transmission.
Looking back, Matt Smith's first series really was a bit of a gem. I never warmed to Amy, but at least she's shut away in the TARDIS where she can pout to her heart's content. The Doctor, meanwhile, is free to get to know James Cordon's Craig, who is far more likeable. The fellow in the flat above, who causes a deadly spreading damp on Craig's ceiling, was originally going to be Meglos - certainly he has all the credentials. While I think it's a pity Steven Moffat didn't go for that, there still remains a certain Sapphire and Steelness about the enigmatic villain, and the finale is satisfying and quite touching, albeit it somewhat 'cheesy'.
I think this might be my favourite Gareth Roberts script for the show. Like his others, it doesn't deal much with the big series arc (although I was reminded about the 'time crack' from this series, as it made its eerie appearance), but it proves that the quieter stories can often be very effective.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 9:59:37 GMT
The Two Doctors.
Great plot and sets, although I couldn't really get behind the themes.
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Post by elkawho on Sept 20, 2022 18:05:56 GMT
Strange how some quieter stories slip off the radar. I've just watched The Lodger, I think for the first time since transmission.
Looking back, Matt Smith's first series really was a bit of a gem. I never warmed to Amy, but at least she's shut away in the TARDIS where she can pout to her heart's content. The Doctor, meanwhile, is free to get to know James Cordon's Craig, who is far more likeable. The fellow in the flat above, who causes a deadly spreading damp on Craig's ceiling, was originally going to be Meglos - certainly he has all the credentials. While I think it's a pity Steven Moffat didn't go for that, there still remains a certain Sapphire and Steelness about the enigmatic villain, and the finale is satisfying and quite touching, albeit it somewhat 'cheesy'.
I think this might be my favourite Gareth Roberts script for the show. Like his others, it doesn't deal much with the big series arc (although I was reminded about the 'time crack' from this series, as it made its eerie appearance), but it proves that the quieter stories can often be very effective.
This episode frustrates me. There is so much in it that works, and I agree with you about the Sapphire and Steel vibe. But every time I watch it all I can think is how people keep going up the stairs and disappearing while the Doctor waits around playing soccer (forgive me, I'm American) as well as matchmaker and does nothing about it. That has never sat right with me, and it keeps the episode from reaching the heights it could have for me.
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Post by bonehead on Sept 20, 2022 18:41:25 GMT
This episode frustrates me. There is so much in it that works, and I agree with you about the Sapphire and Steel vibe. But every time I watch it all I can think is how people keep going up the stairs and disappearing while the Doctor waits around playing soccer (forgive me, I'm American) as well as matchmaker and does nothing about it. That has never sat right with me, and it keeps the episode from reaching the heights it could have for me. I can't really disagree with that, other than to speculate that the various bizarre contraptions the Doctor was constructing throughout the episode took time to identify and find a solution to the problem 'upstairs', leaving him plenty of time to play match-maker and football! Agreed though, there was not a great deal of urgency.
My general view of Matt Smith's tenure was that Stephen Moffat was always eager to show us how 'whacky' his Doctor was - there were moments in Let's Kill Hitler when I was screaming at the television screen that he should stop messing about and do something. It was like City of Death was used as a template for the entire three years - but whereas 'eccentric' dialogue and situations were very lovely elements in a single story, for seasons at a time, it became somewhat wearisome. At least by The Lodger, the Eleventh Doctor hadn't entered his 'dancing' phase; those wild and unneccessary gesticulations became increasingly irritating too.
Sorry, I seem to sound more down on The Eleventh Doctor's era than was intended.
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Post by elkawho on Sept 20, 2022 19:08:55 GMT
This episode frustrates me. There is so much in it that works, and I agree with you about the Sapphire and Steel vibe. But every time I watch it all I can think is how people keep going up the stairs and disappearing while the Doctor waits around playing soccer (forgive me, I'm American) as well as matchmaker and does nothing about it. That has never sat right with me, and it keeps the episode from reaching the heights it could have for me. I can't really disagree with that, other than to speculate that the various bizarre contraptions the Doctor was constructing throughout the episode took time to identify and find a solution to the problem 'upstairs', leaving him plenty of time to play match-maker and football! Agreed though, there was not a great deal of urgency.
My general view of Matt Smith's tenure was that Stephen Moffat was always eager to show us how 'whacky' his Doctor was - there were moments in Let's Kill Hitler when I was screaming at the television screen that he should stop messing about and do something. It was like City of Death was used as a template for the entire three years - but whereas 'eccentric' dialogue and situations were very lovely elements in a single story, for seasons at a time, it became somewhat wearisome. At least by The Lodger, the Eleventh Doctor hadn't entered his 'dancing' phase; those wild and unneccessary gesticulations became increasingly irritating too.
Sorry, I seem to sound more down on The Eleventh Doctor's era than was intended.
Oh, no. I completely agree with you. I always felt that Matt Smith's era could have been one of the best ever if were not for the focus on 1) how clever the writing could be and 2) how wacky the Doctor was. Smith has enough moments of brilliance to have carried some much weightier and less "clever" material. As is stands I find much of it a complete mess.
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Post by bonehead on Sept 20, 2022 19:28:06 GMT
Oh, no. I completely agree with you. I always felt that Matt Smith's era could have been one of the best ever if were not for the focus on 1) how clever the writing could be and 2) how wacky the Doctor was. Smith has enough moments of brilliance to have carried some much weightier and less "clever" material. As is stands I find much of it a complete mess. I think that's why I like returning to stories like The Lodger (and later Night Terrors and Closing Time - although even those were bogged down with the 'love conquers all' theme) - they are fairly straighforward and self-contained. I don't mean to be too down on Matt's era, because there were many great moments; but I never warmed to Amy and found the barrage of 'whackiness' irritating. I do feel that Stephen Moffat's writing had settled a little more into simply telling good stories once Peter Capaldi arrived, although I'm sure some may not agree!
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Post by Kestrel on Sept 20, 2022 20:50:29 GMT
Dunno, I feel like the "wacky" bits were always the weakest aspects... of Tennant's and Smith's and Capaldi's runs. For all the other faults of the era, I really appreciate that Whitaker's Doctor, like Eccleston's, is a bit more grounded and stable. 9/10/11 would always have these goofy scenes that seemed to be pandering to very young children, and they always dragged.
Strong agree on Moffat spending too much time/energy trying to be clever at the expense of satisfying narrative arcs. That whole nonsense with Kovarian and the Silence... I've watched that arc maybe three times and had people lecture me about it online at least twice, and I still have zero understanding of what happened.
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