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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 13:09:05 GMT
There's an interesting little hiccough which I found recently in one of the Countdown comics. The Planet of the Daleks (interesting depiction of Skaro here, there are untamed dinosaurs in this one) begins with the Doctor's cottage being torched, but it ends up unharmed in later stories. Normally, this would be a case of swapping around the entries, but given that Smithwood Manor (the house on Allen Road) had a similar incident where it self-extinguished in a very alien fashion... I've got to wonder if there's something special about how the Doctor renovates his homes.
Something started with the Third Doctor's tinkering with the TARDIS maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 8:48:42 GMT
I know that CC The Blue Tooth is set after Inferno, but does it take place before or after Liz Shaw departs from UNIT? Definitely before.
{Very Big Spoiler} And it shows the reason she leaves - the Doctor's universal compassion finally becomes too alien even for Liz; she sides with UNIT in what is morally the flipside of 'The Silurians', though the Silurians have good and bad individuals - they're people. Cybermen are monsters and 'must be fought', so said an earlier Doctor, which means that here I agreed with Liz.
Nevertheless, I'm very looking forward to her return in The Third Doctor Adventures Volume 5!
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Post by themeddlingmonk on May 14, 2019 15:43:49 GMT
Primord is at some some point after The Sea Devils as Jo mentions the encounter with the Master in Captain Hart’s Navy Base, then The Scream of Ghosts is shortly after Primord as Jo says she’s not used to seeing so many women in power what with encountering Liz and the Professor recently. EDIT: Wages of Sin is the Doctor’s first test flight after Three Doctors. Havoc of Empires is better placed after the novel Speed of Flight (which is set after Planet of the Daleks) despite the fact that it says it’s not long after his exile was rescinded. In Speed of Flight, Jo and Mike get set up on a blind date and decide to get the Doctor to take them on a trip in the TARDIS, this goes wrong and they end up on another planet. Then in Havoc of Empires, Jo acts like she’s more experienced at travelling in the TARDIS, and the Doctor mentions that he and Jo have taken Mike to another planet before.
In The Tyrants of Logic, the Doctor has promised to take Jo back to Earth, suggesting that it’s set after Frontier in Space but before they make it back to Earth, plus he gives her his TARDIS key. I’d suggest this goes right after Conquest of Far/Catastrophea.
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Post by Whovitt on Jul 20, 2019 9:42:25 GMT
I would say The Sacrifice of Jo Grant (Three's episode in The Legacy of Time) would probably go somewhere between Terror of the Autons and The Daemons, as the older Jo says the reason her younger self isn't present is probably because she was "listening out for reports of the Master", and it sounded like the Doctor hadn't known her for a long time (but long enough to appreciate her, so maybe it's between Colony in Space and The Daemons).
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Post by sherlock on Jul 20, 2019 9:53:25 GMT
I would say The Sacrifice of Jo Grant (Three's episode in The Legacy of Time) would probably go somewhere between Terror of the Autons and The Daemons, as the older Jo says the reason her younger self isn't present is probably because she was "listening out for reports of the Master", and it sounded like the Doctor hadn't known her for a long time (but long enough to appreciate her, so maybe it's between Colony in Space and The Daemons). Probably before Colony, as he seems happily surprised by the knowledge he’ll travel in the TARDIS again.
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Post by Whovitt on Jul 20, 2019 9:59:18 GMT
I would say The Sacrifice of Jo Grant (Three's episode in The Legacy of Time) would probably go somewhere between Terror of the Autons and The Daemons, as the older Jo says the reason her younger self isn't present is probably because she was "listening out for reports of the Master", and it sounded like the Doctor hadn't known her for a long time (but long enough to appreciate her, so maybe it's between Colony in Space and The Daemons). Probably before Colony, as he seems happily surprised by the knowledge he’ll travel in the TARDIS again. Oh, yes. I forgot that bit, good point
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Post by number13 on Jul 20, 2019 22:24:39 GMT
I would say The Sacrifice of Jo Grant (Three's episode in The Legacy of Time) would probably go somewhere between Terror of the Autons and The Daemons, as the older Jo says the reason her younger self isn't present is probably because she was "listening out for reports of the Master", and it sounded like the Doctor hadn't known her for a long time (but long enough to appreciate her, so maybe it's between Colony in Space and The Daemons). Probably before Colony, as he seems happily surprised by the knowledge he’ll travel in the TARDIS again. Agree, I think I'd place it between 'The Mind of Evil'and 'Colony in Space'. In 'Terror of the Autons', the Master is mostly occupied by his private feud with the Doctor (and the Nestenes are not pleased about it.) Probably the official UNIT reports to Geneva focused on the return of the Nestenes as the real threat and didn't understand the Master's full importance.
But in 'The Mind of Evil' it's all about him and he must have really lit up the international radar with the mind attacks on Chinese and American diplomats and attempting to start WWIII. I guess it was then that UNIT globally dropped everything to go after him, Jo found herself buried in paperwork and Yates and Benton were away, on a false trail most likely. And 'Colony' is framed by the lab scene where the Brig. has a report of the Master (but no, it's the Spanish Ambassador!) so the hunt is clearly on.
Also, Jo is highly impressive during 'The Mind of Evil' and I'd guess it's then, perhaps during their conversation in Stangmoor, that the Doctor realised his new assistant was someone very special indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 1:14:26 GMT
I know that CC The Blue Tooth is set after Inferno, but does it take place before or after Liz Shaw departs from UNIT? Definitely before. {Spoiler}{Very Big Spoiler}And it shows the reason she leaves - the Doctor's universal compassion finally becomes too alien even for Liz; she sides with UNIT in what is morally the flipside of 'The Silurians', though the Silurians have good and bad individuals - they're people. Cybermen are monsters and 'must be fought', so said an earlier Doctor, which means that here I agreed with Liz.
I reread The Scales of Injustice just recently and I think that hits it right on the head, but also... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think she got tired, angry and frustrated of being powerless. "Hijacked," as she'd call it. The Doctor inspired her to do something, anything, to try and heal the damage done by organisations like C19 and dire monsters like the Pale Man, but on her own terms as a human being. It was getting harder and harder to tell the heroes from the monsters, particularly when the monsters authorised her paychecks, and she never really got to know the Doctor socially as a friend. She regretted that. She leaves him "eight months, two weeks and four days" from the events of Spearhead from Space. Measured down to the day by the Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 13:13:06 GMT
Definitely before. {Spoiler}{Very Big Spoiler}And it shows the reason she leaves - the Doctor's universal compassion finally becomes too alien even for Liz; she sides with UNIT in what is morally the flipside of 'The Silurians', though the Silurians have good and bad individuals - they're people. Cybermen are monsters and 'must be fought', so said an earlier Doctor, which means that here I agreed with Liz.
I reread The Scales of Injustice just recently and I think that hits it right on the head, but also... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think she got tired, angry and frustrated of being powerless. "Hijacked," as she'd call it. The Doctor inspired her to do something, anything, to try and heal the damage done by organisations like C19 and dire monsters like the Pale Man, but on her own terms as a human being. It was getting harder and harder to tell the heroes from the monsters, particularly when the monsters authorised her paychecks, and she never really got to know the Doctor socially as a friend. She regretted that. She leaves him "eight months, two weeks and four days" from the events of Spearhead from Space. Measured down to the day by the Doctor. And didn't she already recognise the Cybermen in The Blue Tooth?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 23:10:31 GMT
I reread The Scales of Injustice just recently and I think that hits it right on the head, but also... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think she got tired, angry and frustrated of being powerless. "Hijacked," as she'd call it. The Doctor inspired her to do something, anything, to try and heal the damage done by organisations like C19 and dire monsters like the Pale Man, but on her own terms as a human being. It was getting harder and harder to tell the heroes from the monsters, particularly when the monsters authorised her paychecks, and she never really got to know the Doctor socially as a friend. She regretted that. She leaves him "eight months, two weeks and four days" from the events of Spearhead from Space. Measured down to the day by the Doctor. And didn't she already recognise the Cybermen in The Blue Tooth? I'm not sure, I don't remember if it's Liz personally or something she gleaned from UNIT files of The Invasion. You know what that means? Time for a relisten of The Blue Tooth.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 10:17:18 GMT
And didn't she already recognise the Cybermen in The Blue Tooth? I'm not sure, I don't remember if it's Liz personally or something she gleaned from UNIT files of The Invasion. You know what that means? Time for a relisten of The Blue Tooth. Good idea!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 1:45:21 GMT
Hello, hello!
I cross the void, beyond the mind, to the empty space that circles time with a question for our chroniclers. For the Third Doctor's era, is there a list (or can a list be compiled) of stories that this incarnation undertook as part of his missions for the Time Lords? Television, audio, comic, et al.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on May 18, 2021 21:41:39 GMT
{The Unzal Incursion } The story begins with the Doctor and Liz discussing the recent events of The Silurians, and then jumps forward to several weeks later. The Doctor, Liz and the Brigadier use the TARDIS console to escape the UNIT lab, and they arrive with the console in the UNIT garage. The console is at the lab in Ambassadors of Death and at the garage in Inferno, so that almost certainly places this story between the two. Also there’s apparently an oddity in the theme tune (I didn’t notice myself as I don’t really pay attention to these things) that was supposed to be a reference to Ambassadors of Death. {The Gulf } The Doctor and Sarah are on their way back to Earth at the start. There’s no references to any Season 11 stories. Although there is a reference to The Three Doctors oddly enough. Sarah doesn’t seem particularly new to her travels so I’d be inclined to place this between Monster of Peladon and Planet of the Spiders. But there’d be nothing stopping you from placing it between Death to the Daleks and Peladon.
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Post by sparrow195 on Oct 20, 2021 6:15:53 GMT
Does anyone know when The Third Doctor Adventures Volume 8 "Conspiracy in Space" & "The Devil's Hoofprints" take place in the 3rd Doctor's timeline?
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Post by mark687 on Oct 20, 2021 8:34:39 GMT
Does anyone know when The Third Doctor Adventures Volume 8 "Conspiracy in Space" & "The Devil's Hoofprints" take place in the 3rd Doctor's timeline? Conspiracy is after Frontier in Space so I'm just putting it after 3DA Vol 6 Operation Hellfire Devils is a bit more tricky TARDIS trips are mentioned but not by name, so maybe after DW ST The Ancient Mariner but before TV Story Monster of Peladon. Regards mark687
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Post by sparrow195 on Oct 20, 2021 9:55:23 GMT
thank you.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 15, 2023 23:01:25 GMT
Given the reference to Whitby, AWOL is set after the first part of Landbound, which itself is straight after The Silurians.
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