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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 10:44:59 GMT
The things I want would probably not work together in a single television episode, but... I want more Ice Warriors. I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet. It's weird how they reintroduced the Ice Warriors in Cold War but they haven't returned since. I like to think they're holding back so they can properly do them justice. That and the costumes were... less than impressive for "Cold War". Imposing certainly, but he looked a bit too much like a posable figurine.
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Post by Hieronymus on Mar 24, 2016 14:15:53 GMT
A new Krotons story. No, seriously. But building on the neglected ideas of their social manipulation in the original story. Yes, I'm really serious about this and if I had the time to pen a story with the ideas I've got in my head then I'd try to do so. It's not as crazy as you might think. Have you read Alien Bodies? Yes, but that story focused solely on the idea that Krotons "grew" bodies to fit their needs. It doesn't explore their manipulation of culture from behind the scenes through rewards and psychological conditioning.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 24, 2016 15:47:23 GMT
I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet. It's weird how they reintroduced the Ice Warriors in Cold War but they haven't returned since. I like to think they're holding back so they can properly do them justice. That and the costumes were... less than impressive for "Cold War". Imposing certainly, but he looked a bit too much like a posable figurine. I actually thought the Cold War costume was pretty good. I'd like to see the Ice Warriors and the Flood in the same story set on Mars.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 23:32:16 GMT
It's not as crazy as you might think. Have you read Alien Bodies? Yes, but that story focused solely on the idea that Krotons "grew" bodies to fit their needs. It doesn't explore their manipulation of culture from behind the scenes through rewards and psychological conditioning. I've got to admit, that I would like to see. It sounds very Prisoner-esque and I'd like to know what the ultimate purpose of their sociocultural conditioning would be if not to breed a subservient labour force. I like to think they're holding back so they can properly do them justice. That and the costumes were... less than impressive for "Cold War". Imposing certainly, but he looked a bit too much like a posable figurine. I actually thought the Cold War costume was pretty good. I'd like to see the Ice Warriors and the Flood in the same story set on Mars. That's a pretty freaky image actually, Ice Warrior armour pouring with water, entire castes wiped out to keep the "infection" from spreading. Hmm... I'm now wondering what an episode where you just threw in everything ever written about Mars would look like?
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Post by constonks on Mar 27, 2016 23:52:08 GMT
That's a pretty freaky image actually, Ice Warrior armour pouring with water, entire castes wiped out to keep the "infection" from spreading. Hmm... I'm now wondering what an episode where you just threw in everything ever written about Mars would look like? Basically like that but with the Osirans involved somehow. Might make a good Titan Comics five-parter. Otherwise, your budget gets a wee bit too high.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 3:30:29 GMT
That's a pretty freaky image actually, Ice Warrior armour pouring with water, entire castes wiped out to keep the "infection" from spreading. Hmm... I'm now wondering what an episode where you just threw in everything ever written about Mars would look like? Basically like that but with the Osirans involved somehow. Might make a good Titan Comics five-parter. Otherwise, your budget gets a wee bit too high. A great plague released by the Osiris for daring to defy his court or maybe a means of driving the Martian peoples to become slaves of the Osirians by cruel necessity, perhaps? You could theoretically do a two-parter to half the production cost and set it all as a base under siege with a limited amount of (reusable) sets... If theatre has told us anything, it's that a lot that can be accomplished by a convincing dialogue and a bit of makeup.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 28, 2016 6:01:10 GMT
I'd like of see the Doctor meet MIB ... MI13 in the form of Professor Dunning and Harry Crow
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Apr 1, 2016 11:55:41 GMT
A Christmas episode, with no mention of festivities starring, Peter Davison or Paul McGann.
Capaldi was moaning that he's exhausted after a series, let him sit out Christmas.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2016 12:31:42 GMT
A Christmas episode, with no mention of festivities starring, Peter Davison or Paul McGann. Capaldi was moaning that he's exhausted after a series, let him sit out Christmas. They'd never do that because it would be too confusing for casual audiences to replace the current Doctor with a previous one for an episode.
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Post by aztec on Apr 1, 2016 13:06:28 GMT
Not sure if Trevor Baxter or Christopher Benjamin would realistically be up for it at their age, especially without Big Finish's involvement, but it would be interesting to see Capaldi's Doctor drop in on his old friends Jago and Lightfoot (albeit no longer in the Victorian Era) for a special one off, a light hearted mystery episode with three older lead characters would be an interesting experiment, even if due to the BBC charter the show couldn't mention Big Finish too directly...
...Actually this could work with Tennant on audio...
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Apr 1, 2016 13:16:35 GMT
A Christmas episode, with no mention of festivities starring, Peter Davison or Paul McGann. Capaldi was moaning that he's exhausted after a series, let him sit out Christmas. They'd never do that because it would be too confusing for casual audiences to replace the current Doctor with a previous one for an episode. Really, after so many people watched Day of the Doctor? And, know the Doctor can change bodies?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2016 13:17:37 GMT
They'd never do that because it would be too confusing for casual audiences to replace the current Doctor with a previous one for an episode. Really, after so many people watched Day of the Doctor? And, know the Doctor can change bodies? Day of the Doctor still had the current Doctor as the main Doctor.
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Post by aztec on Apr 1, 2016 13:23:14 GMT
Really, after so many people watched Day of the Doctor? And, know the Doctor can change bodies? Day of the Doctor still had the current Doctor as the main Doctor. Yeah, and no disrespect to Davison or McGann intended, but neither are hugely popular doctors outside the hardcore fanbase, given the rarity/mixed reception of the TV Movie and the internet exclusive NOTD many wouldn't have seen anything of McGann's Doctor, and Davison has aged quite alot even since Time Crash... Replacing Capaldi with a former doctor for one episode just seems a bit disrespectful i.m.o, though if Moffat figures out a way to bring back a classic Doctor or two for a one off special with Capaldi I'd be all for it...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2016 13:40:13 GMT
Day of the Doctor still had the current Doctor as the main Doctor. Yeah, and no disrespect to Davison or McGann intended, but neither are hugely popular doctors outside the hardcore fanbase, given the rarity/mixed reception of the TV Movie and the internet exclusive NOTD many wouldn't have seen anything of McGann's Doctor, and Davison has aged quite alot even since Time Crash... Replacing Capaldi with a former doctor for one episode just seems a bit disrespectful i.m.o, though if Moffat figures out a way to bring back a classic Doctor or two for a one off special with Capaldi I'd be all for it... I think they should leave Multi-Doctor stories for anniversaries. It didn't work when they tried a full-length Multi-Doctor outside of an anniversary special (The Two Doctors) before so why would it now?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 13:44:24 GMT
Yeah, and no disrespect to Davison or McGann intended, but neither are hugely popular doctors outside the hardcore fanbase, given the rarity/mixed reception of the TV Movie and the internet exclusive NOTD many wouldn't have seen anything of McGann's Doctor, and Davison has aged quite alot even since Time Crash... Replacing Capaldi with a former doctor for one episode just seems a bit disrespectful i.m.o, though if Moffat figures out a way to bring back a classic Doctor or two for a one off special with Capaldi I'd be all for it... I think they should leave Multi-Doctor stories for anniversaries. It didn't work when they tried a full-length Multi-Doctor outside of an anniversary special (The Two Doctors) before so why would it now? Not trying to argue that they should do this, but what makes you say that the Two Doctors didn't work?
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Post by aztec on Apr 1, 2016 13:47:30 GMT
Yeah, and no disrespect to Davison or McGann intended, but neither are hugely popular doctors outside the hardcore fanbase, given the rarity/mixed reception of the TV Movie and the internet exclusive NOTD many wouldn't have seen anything of McGann's Doctor, and Davison has aged quite alot even since Time Crash... Replacing Capaldi with a former doctor for one episode just seems a bit disrespectful i.m.o, though if Moffat figures out a way to bring back a classic Doctor or two for a one off special with Capaldi I'd be all for it... I think they should leave Multi-Doctor stories for anniversaries. It didn't work when they tried a full-length Multi-Doctor outside of an anniversary special (The Two Doctors) before so why would it now? Judging from the little I've seen of the 2 Doctors the trouble lay with the storyline, rather than the use of two doctors... Multi Doctor stories don't actually tend to be that great i.m.o as they are often tied up in complicated storylines or the hype of a big anniversary, it would be a shame to wait another decade to see old doctors again when many of them may no longer be with us in 2023 or changed so much in appearance that some of the magic would be lost by then, it may be a big universe but there are 13 doctors travelling around and it's more likely than not that some of them would bump into each other now and again, the novels, audios and comics have had no issues portraying multi doctor stories outside of anniversaries, and I don't see why the show would have any more problems, at the very least it would be a great talking point for fans and casual viewers alike... But that's just my opinion...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2016 13:57:29 GMT
I think they should leave Multi-Doctor stories for anniversaries. It didn't work when they tried a full-length Multi-Doctor outside of an anniversary special (The Two Doctors) before so why would it now? Not trying to argue that they should do this, but what makes you say that the Two Doctors didn't work? The Doctors didn't get enough screentime with each other and it felt as though Patrick Troughton was just *there* rather for an in or out-story (behind the scenes) reason.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 14:03:15 GMT
Not trying to argue that they should do this, but what makes you say that the Two Doctors didn't work? The Doctors didn't get enough screentime with each other and it felt as though Patrick Troughton was just *there* rather for an in or out-story (behind the scenes) reason. See I liked the lack of time together, as it felt more natural, each Doctor was having an individual adventure, they just happened to overlap. One of my problems with DOTD is that the Doctors spent too much time together. it was the sort of script writing that screamed "this scene will work like this no matter which doctors we get and we'll just sort out who gets what lines once the casts finalised". Basically Tennant felt like he was only there for fan service after the Queen Bess scenes.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2016 15:30:27 GMT
The Doctors didn't get enough screentime with each other and it felt as though Patrick Troughton was just *there* rather for an in or out-story (behind the scenes) reason. See I liked the lack of time together, as it felt more natural, each Doctor was having an individual adventure, they just happened to overlap. One of my problems with DOTD is that the Doctors spent too much time together. it was the sort of script writing that screamed "this scene will work like this no matter which doctors we get and we'll just sort out who gets what lines once the casts finalised". Basically Tennant felt like he was only there for fan service after the Queen Bess scenes. I disagree, I thought 10's inclusion was clever because it meant we had three Doctors working together who were near the end of their incarnations' lives. War regenerated at the end of the story, 10 regenerated in his next story The End of Time and the next episode of the show after Day saw the 11th Doctor regenerate.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Apr 1, 2016 17:41:49 GMT
A Christmas episode, with no mention of festivities starring, Peter Davison or Paul McGann. Capaldi was moaning that he's exhausted after a series, let him sit out Christmas. They'd never do that because it would be too confusing for casual audiences to replace the current Doctor with a previous one for an episode. Excuse me, but the question was asking for your "dream" episode! Perhaps, I should have asked for a Doctors 1, 2, and 3 episode special?
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