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Post by paulmorris7777 on Oct 30, 2016 15:48:37 GMT
I wish we knew more about Robert Holmes' unfinished stories, especially: * his plans for pairing the Rani with the Autons * the finale for Trial of a Time Lord There were clues laid throughout the first three stories in the season, but with the shift in writers, rights issues, and such, none of those clues were followed up in the Ultimate Foe. The transmitted version? What clues?
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Post by Hieronymus on Oct 31, 2016 21:10:12 GMT
I wish we knew more about Robert Holmes' unfinished stories, especially: * his plans for pairing the Rani with the Autons * the finale for Trial of a Time Lord There were clues laid throughout the first three stories in the season, but with the shift in writers, rights issues, and such, none of those clues were followed up in the Ultimate Foe. The transmitted version? What clues? {Spoiler} For example: In one scene, the Doctor has to explain to the Inquisitor that a word the Valeyard used is "an obscure Earth term". This seems to have been a clue concerning the identity of the Valeyard.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 21:36:33 GMT
My question is one that will probably be revealed in tons of years: what was the deal with the "longest season ever" thing, why was Series 6 so skewed from a production standpoint and, in general, what has actually been going on behind the scenes from late 2010 till about September 2016... It seems that things went very, very wrong, as we've heard a number of odd things... For example, that thing about the 50th being a bit last minute dot com. Seriously, something seriously wrong happened that we really don't know about and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a reason Moffat's scripts have been mixed. I genuinely think he was under a ton of pressure from the heads of the BBC... And probably still is. The reason they probably got Chibnall in is because has dealt with multi-series shows before that have been massive successes. Moffat was under a ton more pressure than I think we all think.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Oct 31, 2016 22:54:42 GMT
My question is one that will probably be revealed in tons of years: what was the deal with the "longest season ever" thing, why was Series 6 so skewed from a production standpoint and, in general, what has actually been going on behind the scenes from late 2010 till about September 2016... It seems that things went very, very wrong, as we've heard a number of odd things... For example, that thing about the 50th being a bit last minute dot com. Seriously, something seriously wrong happened that we really don't know about and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a reason Moffat's scripts have been mixed. I genuinely think he was under a ton of pressure from the heads of the BBC... And probably still is. The reason they probably got Chibnall in is because has dealt with multi-series shows before that have been massive successes. Moffat was under a ton more pressure than I think we all think. If what you are saying is actual fact then some obvious questions have to be asked - The 50th could have meant to have been a smaller affair, and a bigger affair meant for a 10th NuWho anniversary (which doesn't seem to be happening). If Moffat is under so much pressure, why doesn't he delegate? Why does he always write the first story, the middle ones - inc co-writing, the last stories, and the Christmas Special AND Produce/write the Sherlock series?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 11:19:07 GMT
The transmitted version? What clues? For example: In one scene, the Doctor has to explain to the Inquisitor that a word the Valeyard used is "an obscure Earth term". This seems to have been a clue concerning the identity of the Valeyard. There was a copy of the original script for Trial of a Time Lord as written by Saward and Holmes floating around somewhere in PDF format, but I haven't been able to track it down again. From memory, Mr. Popplewick was really just an illusion and vanishes when the Doctor grabs his coat, the Master deliberately leads the Doctor into an encounter with his future self -- the Valeyard -- with the express intention of profiting from the aftermath, the Doctor's final words before he and the Valeyard tumble into the time rent are "You don't deserve to live," and there's the implication that the Inquisitor (and possibly Keeper) is (or are) somehow involved in on either the Master or the Valeyard's plot. Either way, the ending is written so that the Valeyard doesn't really come across as the ultimate villain. It's less of a conclusion and more sort of a radical change to the status quo. In the dark, the Doctor and the Valeyard locked in a perpetual struggle with one another would have been the last image we would have seen as the season closed out. All in all, it paints a very interesting, if seriously downbeat picture of the show's future. Imagine if the show had survived Time Incorporated and the Seventh Doctor was spat out of the time rent with the wreckage of the trial immediately on his back...
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Post by bobod on Nov 1, 2016 12:04:58 GMT
The Daleks on Red Dwarf thing was just a newsletter/magazine April Fool, wasn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 12:19:08 GMT
The Daleks on Red Dwarf thing was just a newsletter/magazine April Fool, wasn't it? Well, there is this.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Nov 5, 2016 23:25:43 GMT
But I also turned up a rumour from 1997 that the follow-up to the BBC's unspectacular "Invasion Earth" (that thing with the extra-dimensional aliens in Scotland) would have been a BBC/Sci-Fi Channel collaboration on a "Doctor Who" revival. In 1997? Wouldn't the most likely situation have been a McGann series, since he'd just been established as the new Doctor? Now that would have been interesting...
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