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Post by MayoTango131 on Apr 11, 2016 13:14:32 GMT
1) No more continuity references of the past, or old monsters returning or hateful sequels as Return to Telos. Fourth Doctor era was unique, independent with its own mythology; as was the Eleventh Doctor era. I want to see creative new monsters, new and fresh adventures, as in the old days of Big Finish under Gary Russell.
A talking cabbage as a new companion, Tom Baker deserves it.
Stories set in E-Space.
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Post by MayoTango131 on Apr 11, 2016 13:22:05 GMT
Serious answer though - I want Adric audios. I've yet to see or hear any of Adric's stories, but I know of the character by the reputation he has in the fanbase...it certainly speaks wonders about BF's writing talent when people are clamouring for such a divisive character to return I quite like the idea of the larger than life 4th Doctor taking a younger male companion under his wing and acting as a teacher or father figure of sorts, there's very few male companions as it is, and since BF are creating a new companion for 4 anyway it could be a interesting dynamic to explore even if we don't hear more of Adric again... That was before, now Adric is almost like an identification figure for current fans (constantly criticizing, hating the new and changes, and other things). There are other names such as Danny Pink or Clara Oswald who in the fanbase they spit out them with pure hatred for ruining the series.
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Post by bobod on Apr 11, 2016 13:33:09 GMT
I don't think either Danny Pink or Clara Oswald are widely hated.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 11, 2016 14:18:31 GMT
A series featuring Adric would be great and also a one-off featuring 4TH and 8TH. Looks back at title of thread.........AH CRAP!!! EDIT : Sorted that out
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Post by captain jack on Apr 11, 2016 18:46:30 GMT
A two doctors style story with 4 & 8 would be amazing, i loved there interaction in the Light At The End box set.
A series set in ESpace with Rommana & Adric & then maybe a series with just Adric would be fun not watched much of the later 4th Doctor series so don't really know what the dynamic was between those 3 characters.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 11, 2016 19:55:42 GMT
I don't think either Danny Pink or Clara Oswald are widely hated. I've seen a lot of hatred for Danny Pink but Clara seems to be more mixed to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 5:31:42 GMT
A two doctors style story with 4 & 8 would be amazing, i loved there interaction in the Light At The End box set. How about a road trip in the style of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas starring the two banding together to sort out a malevolent alien visitor traipsing across the country? I reckon that's got potential. I don't think either Danny Pink or Clara Oswald are widely hated. I've seen a lot of hatred for Danny Pink but Clara seems to be more mixed to me.Danny was a character who looked as though he was going to touch on veterans of the American War on Terror, but that didn't really go anywhere. This is just speculation, but I think he's easier to hate because the writers seemed almost frightened to explore those controversial topics with him. Clara, on the other hand, has so many different (and often contradictory) interpretations that you're bound to find something you like about her. You can pick from the quiet neurotic in Deep Breath, the smarmy sidekick in The Crimson Horror, the serious intellect of Hide, etc. She's basically the Janeway of Doctor Who and I speak as someone who thought Janeway was at many points in Voyager kinda awesome. Given her doppelganger's characterisation in The Zygon Inversion, they might've missed an opportunity to have the Doctor travel around with a feminine Kerr Avon. Big Finish performed something of a miracle with Adric by implying that he's riddled with self-doubt and suffering from some kind of depression. I'd still like to see (maybe in the form of a Companion Chronicle), the wizard and urchin apprentice dynamic that was shaping up for Four and him prior to Logopolis. There's a wonderful tragedy to the character as he manages to find his place aboard the TARDIS in those very last moments of Earthshock, just as he burns up with the freighter.
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Post by omega on Apr 12, 2016 6:45:34 GMT
Big Finish performed something of a miracle with Adric by implying that he's riddled with self-doubt and suffering from some kind of depression. I'd still like to see (maybe in the form of a Companion Chronicle), the wizard and urchin apprentice dynamic that was shaping up for Four and him prior to Logopolis. There's a wonderful tragedy to the character as he manages to find his place aboard the TARDIS in those very last moments of Earthshock, just as he burns up with the freighter. Given he's a teenager that's perfectly natural. He's travelling with Tegan, who is quick to criticise yet very rarely offer praise (and even then doesn't tend to do it when the person she's praising is around), so it's perfectly logical Adric wouldn't want to experiment too much with her around. The Doctor is too busy keeping the peace and Nyssa doesn't tend to initiate conversation. When Adric does do something Tegan yells and him and the Doctor is annoyed. There's no one to help bolster Adric's confidence until thing involve numbers, and then he's the only person who can help (like in Interations of I).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 9:10:28 GMT
Big Finish performed something of a miracle with Adric by implying that he's riddled with self-doubt and suffering from some kind of depression. I'd still like to see (maybe in the form of a Companion Chronicle), the wizard and urchin apprentice dynamic that was shaping up for Four and him prior to Logopolis. There's a wonderful tragedy to the character as he manages to find his place aboard the TARDIS in those very last moments of Earthshock, just as he burns up with the freighter. Given he's a teenager that's perfectly natural. He's travelling with Tegan, who is quick to criticise yet very rarely offer praise (and even then doesn't tend to do it when the person she's praising is around), so it's perfectly logical Adric wouldn't want to experiment too much with her around. The Doctor is too busy keeping the peace and Nyssa doesn't tend to initiate conversation. When Adric does do something Tegan yells and him and the Doctor is annoyed. There's no one to help bolster Adric's confidence until thing involve numbers, and then he's the only person who can help (like in Interations of I). The novelisation for The Twin Dilemma goes a step further by saying that the Doctor regretted the young boy dying before he could praise, accept and ultimately like him. You can certainly see that if you look at the televised stories, the Fifth Doctor allowed Adric to stay onboard almost out of a sense of obligation than anything else and I don't think he ever realised that until it was too late. Until Earthshock there was the implication that Tegan would have left for Heathrow at the first opportunity, she had no intention of staying and Nyssa herself seemed to make the most of a desperate situation by adjusting to and mediating disputes in the TARDIS. When he died, both of them radically changed in character. Tegan seems a lot quieter in comparison to her earlier appearances and Nyssa fulfilled the Doctor's need for a friend and confidant.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 12, 2016 12:54:57 GMT
I've seen a lot of hatred for Danny Pink but Clara seems to be more mixed to me. Danny was a character who looked as though he was going to touch on veterans of the American War on Terror, but that didn't really go anywhere. This is just speculation, but I think he's easier to hate because the writers seemed almost frightened to explore those controversial topics with him. Clara, on the other hand, has so many different (and often contradictory) interpretations that you're bound to find something you like about her. You can pick from the quiet neurotic in Deep Breath, the smarmy sidekick in The Crimson Horror, the serious intellect of Hide, etc. She's basically the Janeway of Doctor Who and I speak as someone who thought Janeway was at many points in Voyager kinda awesome. Given her doppelganger's characterisation in The Zygon Inversion, they might've missed an opportunity to have the Doctor travel around with a feminine Kerr Avon. Big Finish performed something of a miracle with Adric by implying that he's riddled with self-doubt and suffering from some kind of depression. I'd still like to see (maybe in the form of a Companion Chronicle), the wizard and urchin apprentice dynamic that was shaping up for Four and him prior to Logopolis. There's a wonderful tragedy to the character as he manages to find his place aboard the TARDIS in those very last moments of Earthshock, just as he burns up with the freighter.Agreed. Danny most of the time felt as though he was just 'there'. Compared to a character like Mickey Smith, he wasn't even a strong black character and there arguably needs to be more strong black characters in TV and film, not weaker ones. I think Danny Pink needed two things: 1. A better actor and 2. His romance with Clara to be built up rather than just 'happening' as it seemed to.
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Post by aztec on Apr 12, 2016 16:18:06 GMT
I don't think either Danny Pink or Clara Oswald are widely hated. Judging by the Official Doctor Who facebook page the 'fans' like nothing better than complaining about the show...
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Post by iank on Apr 12, 2016 23:28:17 GMT
I hate Clara with a fierce passion bordering on the homicidal. She started off dull as dishwater and then became an obnoxiously unlikeable uber-Mary Sue Little Miss Perfect horror show. Not just the worst companion of New Who, but possibly the worst ever. Adric still sucks too, though, if that helps.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Apr 12, 2016 23:50:32 GMT
I think the big problem with Clara is we never really knew who she was or was supposed to be because it never seemed like Moffat knew who she was. I can say I found her a lot easier to stomach with the 12th Doctor because she was given something to play and I think Coleman is a talented performer. That said, I do wish The Last Christmas had been her swan song. Her full-on action junkie persona was easily the weakest link in series 9. Granted, I still feel like the 9th series is the strongest since the series came back but a different companion with that backstory would have made it that much stronger in my eyes. Back on topic, would love a 4/8 box set. Would love to hear 4 with a new companion. Would not even mind a 4/Adric sety of stories and that I wrote that should tell everyone how far I think the character has been redeemed by Big Finish.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 0:58:58 GMT
+1 vote for the talking cabbage. Get Paul Magrs or Jacqueline Rayner onboard and it could really work.
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Post by barnabaslives on Apr 13, 2016 1:52:42 GMT
I'd be delighted to have a few stories with the Fourth Doctor and Adric and Nyssa too, a box set or a Monthly Range trilogy... even a one-off. I think everything is available that is required to bring that team back to life, and bringing things from the OS back to life is what Big Finish generally specializes in and excels at, I think.
Not sure about the cabbage, though. A Vervoid would be bad enough. Does the cabbage ever actually leave the TARDIS unless The Doctor tosses it out the door?
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Post by fitzoliverj on Apr 16, 2016 16:05:43 GMT
Cabbages are just *so* 1970s. If Big Finish have indeed recorded stories in advance, I can confidently predict that the new companion will be a talking curly kale; if they're only now about to start recording, they'll probably choose something trendy and up to the minute - broccoli leaves.
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Post by relativetime on Apr 16, 2016 16:17:15 GMT
Cabbages are just *so* 1970s. If Big Finish have indeed recorded stories in advance, I can confidently predict that the new companion will be a talking curly kale; if they're only now about to start recording, they'll probably choose something trendy and up to the minute - broccoli leaves. Nah, that's just daft. I hear talking fruit is all the rage now, so perhaps a banana? Y'know, to explain why the Ninth Doctor thinks bananas are good.
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Post by mrperson on Apr 16, 2016 18:57:33 GMT
To be honest, I'm kind of burning out on Tom Baker. Blasphemy!
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Post by aztec on Aug 3, 2016 10:54:22 GMT
How about combining several of the suggestions into one story-a Multi Doctor road trip story with 4, 8 and Adric teaming up against an malevolent talking cabbage pulling a dark dimension and wiping the other incarnations from time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 12:19:02 GMT
The talking cabbage is a must voiced by Ian McKellen.
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