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Post by relativetime on Apr 18, 2016 4:23:54 GMT
Honestly, I think a story or series of stories that pits UNIT against Torchwood AND the Forge would be pretty interesting.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Apr 18, 2016 15:37:47 GMT
I think they said on the podcast recently there were no plans for another "Worlds of....", but it seems a pretty obvious choice to do one with Counter Measures, Pertwee-era, Torchwood, the Forge, Big Finish's old UNIT, current UNIT.... hell, why not LONGBOW or the Unitatus, for heaven's sake?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Apr 18, 2016 20:49:33 GMT
Torchwood versus UNIT that turns into Torchwood and UNIT versus the Forge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 0:20:43 GMT
I assumed that due to the 201 jumping-on point some things would never be brought up again, such as the Forge.
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Post by constonks on Apr 29, 2016 20:02:44 GMT
I assumed that due to the 201 jumping-on point some things would never be brought up again, such as the Forge. I don't think the soft reboot was a terrible idea, but I also think they can reintroduce whatever they want by framing it as if it had never come up before. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 20:54:20 GMT
I assumed that due to the 201 jumping-on point some things would never be brought up again, such as the Forge. I'm not sure what that is, sorry. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 29, 2016 21:20:30 GMT
The Doctor worked out who Kate was without her telling him in The Power of Three, so its possible that an earlier version of the Doctor met Kate later in her life.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Apr 29, 2016 22:58:37 GMT
The Doctor worked out who Kate was without her telling him in The Power of Three, so its possible that an earlier version of the Doctor met Kate later in her life. Which rather detracts from eleven's cleverness in working out who Kate Stewart was. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 30, 2016 0:58:48 GMT
The Doctor worked out who Kate was without her telling him in The Power of Three, so its possible that an earlier version of the Doctor met Kate later in her life. Which rather detracts from eleven's cleverness in working out who Kate Stewart was. Well, we don't know if he was being clever, or if he just knew. |
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Post by 024mcleodj on May 8, 2016 20:13:58 GMT
I'd love to see Kate and Osgood using the space time telegraph to contact the Doctor and have the 7th Doctor for example turn up. Or even the 3rd Doctor travelling into the 21st Century and having to work with the 21st Century UNIT. And contradictions wouldn't be an issue as mentioned in The Day of the Doctor and The Zygon Inversion, UNIT has access to mind wiping technology. I think this could be a really good idea. The thought of Classic Doctors working with Osgood/Stewart era UNIT has me really excited. But people keep mentioning this idea of a UNIT versus Torchwood scenario and I think that that is a very bad idea. Kate and Jack are both possessed of enough common sense to realise that fighting each other would serve no purpose at all, especially in an alien invasion situation. It seems like a very unrealistic idea. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 8, 2016 20:47:40 GMT
Kate and Jack are both headstrong enough to think their way is the best way.
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Post by icecreamdf on May 8, 2016 21:16:18 GMT
I think the main problem with UNIT vs. Torchwood is that UNIT has a whole army, whereas Torchwood barely exists by the time Kate is in charge of UNIT. Even when Gwen creates her own Torchwood, I imagine it will only be about half a dozen people like the original Torchwood Cardiff.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 8, 2016 21:33:01 GMT
I think the main problem with UNIT vs. Torchwood is that UNIT has a whole army, whereas Torchwood barely exists by the time Kate is in charge of UNIT. Even when Gwen creates her own Torchwood, I imagine it will only be about half a dozen people like the original Torchwood Cardiff. UNITs army is rubbish though. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 9, 2016 13:37:06 GMT
Torchwood versus UNIT that turns into Torchwood and UNIT versus the Forge. Torchwood V UNIT: Dawn of Justice?  |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 9, 2016 20:44:15 GMT
Torchwood versus UNIT that turns into Torchwood and UNIT versus the Forge. Torchwood V UNIT: Dawn of Justice? Wherein we discover both Kate and Jack's mother was named Martha. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 10, 2016 11:25:16 GMT
Torchwood V UNIT: Dawn of Justice? Wherein we discover both Kate and Jack's mother was named Martha. And Jago & Litefoot show up in order to fast forward a DWEU (Doctor Who Extended Universe). |
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Post by MayoTango131 on May 10, 2016 13:24:52 GMT
Also, taking inspiration from the upcoming Captain America movie and the amazing comic book on which it's based, maybe a UNIT vs Torchwood/ Kate vs Jack 'civil war' could work too, but to be honest I just want to hear Jemma Redgrave and John Barrowman on audio together. I've always thought that Kate was the only reason that the government and the United Nations have allowed/tolerated the existence of Torchwood Three because Jack was a friend/associate of his father. That would explain why Torchwood was never able capture the Doctor during his exile on Earth. All this idea of the "Civil War" is so forced and implausible as the film itself, Jack and Gwen against all UNIT military bases around the world plus the British army of the government? Not to mention that Kate has legal power to use nuclear weapons, while Jack and Gwen are illegal vigilantes with guns. Unless they who are as lucky as Zemo or a letter of apology, better ignore this idea. I prefer to explore the history of The Forge in the 21st century, the sinister Torchwood I wanted to see on television. I would like to see Jack and Kate against Nimrod. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 10, 2016 21:25:13 GMT
To repeat myself - UNIT is rubbish.
They've had, by the time of the Zygon Inversion, several years to adapt to the idea of Zygons as a persistent threat/ally/whatever.
And do they train their Anti-Zygon squad in basic "shape-changer tactics"? Nope.
Do they equip a squad of unmarried, childless orphans with guns and strict instructions to taser anyone who says they're your best mate, and the Zygons are the good guys just in case?
Nope.
Even fluffy and daft as a brush Starfleet developed blood tests to test for Changelings, "I'm Clara Oswald" "good, sample of blood please" "I'm the Doctor's bestest mate" "that's nice, sample of blood please" and VOILA two episodes of nonsense resolved in about five minutes.
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Post by icecreamdf on May 10, 2016 21:35:19 GMT
To repeat myself - UNIT is rubbish. They've had, by the time of the Zygon Inversion, several years to adapt to the idea of Zygons as a persistent threat/ally/whatever. And do they train their Anti-Zygon squad in basic "shape-changer tactics"? Nope. Do they equip a squad of unmarried, childless orphans with guns and strict instructions to taser anyone who says they're your best mate, and the Zygons are the good guys just in case? Nope. Even fluffy and daft as a brush Starfleet developed blood tests to test for Changelings, "I'm Clara Oswald" "good, sample of blood please" "I'm the Doctor's bestest mate" "that's nice, sample of blood please" and VOILA two episodes of nonsense resolved in about five minutes. Zygon blood doesn't immediately turn into goo though. They would have to actually run a DNA test, which would take time. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 10, 2016 21:38:44 GMT
Even with all the alien gubbins UNIT has?
They have access to Cyber-Tech for crying out loud, and at least one War-era Dalek.
The only reason they don't do blood tests during a Zygon crisis is probably the Doctor's issues with profiling. And frankly, this is the issue where you say "nope, this is us being safe"
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