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Post by jasonward on May 7, 2016 14:09:14 GMT
So catching up with the BF podcast, and hearing Nick, somewhat light-heartedly that plays should be short in order to accommodate music suites on CD, I was wondering what people felt about this? Personally I really don't like the idea at all.
To expand, firstly, of all the music suites I've heard from BF, there has only been one I actually enjoyed, for the most part the incidental music just doesn't work for me when removed from the context it was created for. I love incidental music as incidental music, but as music per sae I find them really quite bad, and not at all the type of music I would choose to listen to. Secondly, CD is dying medium, so why tie story length to CD length minus music suite?
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Post by acousticwolf on May 7, 2016 14:58:11 GMT
No. They could always make the music suite a bonus download, and that also gives a bit more incentive to buy direct from BF  . I don't like the idea of short plays, just to accommodate extras. Cheers Tony |
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Post by aztec on May 7, 2016 15:44:26 GMT
Personally I rarely listen to the music suites or behind the scenes interviews anyway (I find them to be quite repetitive alot of the time 'oh so and so is so lovely to work with, enjoyed the lunch!' etc), although I'm a mostly physical media only customer, the story is the main attraction for me...
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Post by elkawho on May 7, 2016 16:24:55 GMT
No No No No. Telling the story should always be the focus..
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 17:10:22 GMT
I assume Nick was joking, but if he wasn't... F*#@ the music suites!
I buy Big Finish audios to listen to a story, if I want to listen to music I will go out and buy a music CD or download something from iTunes.
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Post by pawntake on May 7, 2016 17:28:46 GMT
I assume Nick was joking, but if he wasn't... F*#@ the music suites! I buy Big Finish audios to listen to a story, if I want to listen to music I will go out and buy a music CD or download something from iTunes. I 2nd that!!  |
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Post by glutamodo on May 7, 2016 22:05:47 GMT
Agreed - I pay almost no attention to the music suites. It's something that I sort of think about listening to "someday" but when it comes down to it, I'd rather listen to stories.
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Post by gregm on May 7, 2016 23:30:34 GMT
Some time back, BF made a decision to generally keep the Doctor Who (then really only the main range) to 30 minute episodes as a point of story-telling discipline and to more closely replicate the original TV format. It's not a hard and fast rule, apparently, but seen as desirable. The consequence of which is that there is always room for extras, and they've made the music suites a standard extra, to avoid interviews on disc 1 which means ability to not have to too scrupulously avoid spoilers.
While I agree with the general preference for story over extras, I'd suggest Nick's comment was either light-hearted or in a bout of forgetfulness.
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Post by jasonward on May 7, 2016 23:34:02 GMT
Some time back, BF made a decision to generally keep the Doctor Who (then really only the main range) to 30 minute episodes as a point of story-telling discipline and to more closely replicate the original TV format. It's not a hard and fast rule, apparently, but seen as desirable. The consequence of which is that there is always room for extras, and they've made the music suites a standard extra, to avoid interviews on disc 1 which means ability to not have to too scrupulously avoid spoilers. While I agree with the general preference for story over extras, I'd suggest Nick's comment was either light-hearted or in a bout of forgetfulness. He was commenting, that he always wrote shorter stories whilst others did not, yes it was fairly light hearted, but to me it sounded like there were some undertones as well, but it was all in the Frank Skinner podcast, so listen for yourself (those that have not). |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 1:23:18 GMT
Moving past the Main Range I'm always disappointed with the extras on box sets. The first four discs have 1x60-minute episode each, leaving about 80 minutes that could be used for music suites or other extras but aren't (in fact music suites often aren't included at all). Also, the behind the scenes disc seems to be limited to 60 minutes of content more often than not, presumably so it can be sort-of treated as a fifth 'episode'.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 8, 2016 3:28:50 GMT
No offense to any of the sound designers/composers that BF uses on a regular basis but Big Finish could drop the music suites altogether and I would barely notice. The suites could easily be moved off the discs and onto the web site as a subscriber extra. And to be honest, that is the way I feel about Behind-the-Scenes as well. Granted more doesn't always equal better, especially when it comes to story length, but omitting those two things picks up an extra 10 to 20 minutes per Monthly Range release and that leaves a lot more time for writers to play with. I'm sure there are probably all kinds of budgetary & time reasons why these extras exist on the discs but I'd love to see the odd 6 part story every now and then with the extra time.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 10, 2016 12:45:38 GMT
I do like the music suites, but to make plays shorter to fit them on is a stupid decision if thats what they go for. Either have them at the end of the second/last disc of have them as a download option when you order the discs through BF
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:09:29 GMT
I'm fairly sure it was a joke, turning the situation on it's head.
The reality is surwly more that the episodes are the length they are because it more closely approximates the dramatic structure of Doctor Who (With some added time for the extra exposition required by the audio medium). Thee music suites nicely fill the spare space on the CD. One day I may even listen to some of them.
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Post by Ela on May 12, 2016 19:42:05 GMT
Sure hope it was a joke. I generally skip over the music suites. I buy the releases for the story, and would certainly not want to see the story shortened to make more room for music suites and extras.
I sometimes enjoy the Behind the Scenes extras, if they include interesting background information, but I think we've heard quite enough about how lovely the lunches are and how lovely everyone is to work with.
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Post by coffeeaddict on May 12, 2016 20:02:19 GMT
Sure hope it was a joke. I generally skip over the music suites. I buy the releases for the story, and would certainly not want to see the story shortened to make more room for music suites and extras. I sometimes enjoy the Behind the Scenes extras, if they include interesting background information, but I think we've heard quite enough about how lovely the lunches are and how lovely everyone is to work with. There does need to be a rethink on what goes into the extras. I'd rather hear more from the writers and sound designers. It is nice to hear from the guest stars too. Enough about the lunches and I don't think we need to hear new iterations about how it was a great script, unless there is an actual explaination as to why the actor liked it - there isn't enough of that in the extras. |
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Post by glutamodo on May 12, 2016 23:55:38 GMT
x2.
I just finished the latest Terrahawks series the other day and quite liked hearing from the sound designer in the extras (since I do some sound design myself, I have perhaps an extra amount in interest in that area)
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Post by kimalysong on May 12, 2016 23:58:03 GMT
I am sure it's a joke
That being said while I don't listen to the music suites that often. I do listen to the Dorian Gray soundtrack quite often (such as right now). I think James Dunlop's music is gorgeous. Looking forward to hearing his music for Dracula.
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