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Post by jasonward on May 22, 2016 20:50:33 GMT
For the Who fans, who like thinking about the issues that arise from time travel, and explanation that the Grandfather paradox is not a paradox at all, but it appears so due to incomplete knowledge/thinking.
Of course, the whole thing relies on the idea that time travel is possible, the grandfather paradox may not be a paradox for the simple reason that time travel is not possible.
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Post by kimalysong on May 22, 2016 21:51:40 GMT
I think one of my greatest disappointments in life was discovering that time travel is pretty much impossible.
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Post by Ela on May 22, 2016 21:58:16 GMT
Love!  That guy is great. And loved his explanation of the grandfather paradox, even though my brain is now overwhelmed.  |
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Post by jasonward on May 22, 2016 21:58:50 GMT
Much as I love Doctor Who and the time travel stories, if time travel were possible, I think the consequences would look far more like they do in the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy universe, only without the humour. I've always felt a sense of relief that time travel is probably impossible.
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Post by Ela on May 22, 2016 22:02:37 GMT
Another interesting twist on the subject: Have you ever read Pastwatch? Interesting take on what could happen if we could look into the past and influence it. It raised some questions and ideas I found fascinating. |
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Post by kimalysong on May 22, 2016 22:09:41 GMT
Look guys I would use time travel responsibly: I'd go to a Beatles concert, see my favorite actors on stage who are no longer with us, and I'd tell Charles Laughton that time would vindicate his film Night of the Hunter so we could have more movies of his.
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Post by jasonward on May 22, 2016 22:14:53 GMT
Look guys I would use time travel responsibly: I'd go to a Beatles concert, see my favorite actors on stage who are no longer with us, and I'd tell Charles Laughton that time would vindicate his film Night of the Hunter so we could have more movies of his. So only change the past a little right? Well that's OK, everyone just a little bit |
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Post by Ela on May 22, 2016 22:23:56 GMT
Ha!  |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 23, 2016 11:33:35 GMT
If i could travel back in time i would give Justin Beibers dad a vasectomey in his 20's. Kill Bieber, Save the world
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 23, 2016 11:37:00 GMT
Also with the Grandfather Paradox, i do love Futurama's way around it
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Post by jasonward on May 23, 2016 11:46:06 GMT
Also with the Grandfather Paradox, i do love Futurama's way around it Whilst the episode plays on the idea of the Grandfather paradox, it never actually occurs, Fry kills his grandfather after his grandmother has already become pregnant with his father. The apparent paradox isn't so much got around, it just never arises except in the minds of the protagonists who don't know that Fry's grandmother is pregnant. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 23, 2016 11:49:01 GMT
Also with the Grandfather Paradox, i do love Futurama's way around it Whilst the episode plays on the idea of the Grandfather paradox, it never actually occurs, Fry kills his grandfather after his grandmother has already become pregnant with his father. The apparent paradox isn't so much got around, it just never arises except in the minds of the protagonists who don't know that Fry's grandmother is pregnant. I'm going to have to watch the episode again now as i thought it was stated that he IS his own grandfather |
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Post by jasonward on May 23, 2016 11:56:31 GMT
Whilst the episode plays on the idea of the Grandfather paradox, it never actually occurs, Fry kills his grandfather after his grandmother has already become pregnant with his father. The apparent paradox isn't so much got around, it just never arises except in the minds of the protagonists who don't know that Fry's grandmother is pregnant. I'm going to have to watch the episode again now as i thought it was stated that he IS his own grandfather OK yes... errrr... that too, now you come to mention it. Seems I need to rewatch also... I googled to check my facts, maybe I went down a rabbit hole. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 23, 2016 12:11:50 GMT
I'm going to have to watch the episode again now as i thought it was stated that he IS his own grandfather OK yes... errrr... that too, now you come to mention it. Seems I need to rewatch also... I googled to check my facts, maybe I went down a rabbit hole. Lol i'm sure we will figure it out |
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Post by jasonward on May 23, 2016 12:20:30 GMT
Although, again, if that's the case, what's actually being depicted is the bootstrap paradox, not the grandfather paradox.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 23, 2016 12:28:39 GMT
hmmmm maybe. lets watch and find out  lol |
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lol