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Post by Hieronymus on Jun 4, 2016 23:47:27 GMT
I would be on board with a Classic Doctor Box set each year in addition to the usual monthly range, but not as a replacement for it.
It wouldn't affect me personally either way, as I do mostly downloads.
But say I wanted just the Rani stories in CD form. Well, I'd be out of luck on that. I wouldn't buy a whole box set just to get that one story with the Rani. So BF would lose out on some extra cash from me if they went that route.
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Post by bohnny on Jun 5, 2016 0:17:11 GMT
Hey everyone, Last year, Nicholas Briggs talked of the possibility of Big Finish moving away from monthly releases featuring Doctors 5-7 to box set releases. What do we think of this potential change? Must admit I don't recall this being discussed - I thought (or probably assumed) they were talking abt the possibility of repackaging some of the existing stories in doctor themed boxsets and/or allowing doctor specific subs. But if it is being considered, I'd be another who sees more problems than benefits with it if BF were to go this way exclusively (although I'm sure I'd still buy them all anyway). I can see the upside though of occasional 'specials' (a la the 5th doctor box w Adric, the sixth doctor final adventure or the 7th doctor unit: dominion).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 0:47:57 GMT
I would like to see more box sets with Peter, Colin and Sylvester but I don't want to see them replace the monthly releases.
As mbt66 said, they could re-release trilogies in box-sets but I'm not sure why they would do that over just creating a three-release subscription. This subscription could be no cheaper than buying individually but still contain the PDF scripts and extended extras. Alternatively it could be priced to bring the individual-release price down to £9.99 (download). This price point might be a great marketing strategy. (The 6 and 12 month subscriptions currently put the individual release price at £9.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 3:44:13 GMT
I'm all for quality over quantity, but I don't think it'd be a very good idea to make the switch. It'd undermine what they're trying to do with the Monthly Range and economic pressures alone would probably prevent me personally from making any further serious purchases. I'm very, very wary about depositing my money into large bundles like subscriptions and boxsets since I have very little to throw around. It's risk vs. reward. Big Finish tend to have a sterling record, but if I keep getting boxsets with only one really good story to their name, I'd be less inclined to do so in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 7:06:11 GMT
Now if, for example, they were to announce boxsets from the first fifty, I think people would jump at them, so I think as repackaging opportunities for very old material there's real potential there. Otherwise, no.
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Post by omega on Jun 5, 2016 7:14:51 GMT
Now if, for example, they were to announce boxsets from the first fifty, I think people would jump at them, so I think as repackaging opportunities for very old material there's real potential there. Otherwise, no. For that they've now been three years out of print, so there would definitely be a market there.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 5, 2016 8:57:43 GMT
Now if, for example, they were to announce boxsets from the first fifty, I think people would jump at them, so I think as repackaging opportunities for very old material there's real potential there. Otherwise, no. I would definitely buy first 50 box sets, especially the one with Doctor Who And The Pirates in. Really want to own that one on CD.
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Post by jason on Jun 5, 2016 22:53:49 GMT
Boxsets put me off of buying stuff now. It's just too much of an outlay, even though I'm a completist (you should see my comic collection) and would probably get around to buying everything anyways. Seems like a marketing or profit maximization thing, rather than a response to any clarion call of the people.
So I vote 'no'! I don't ordinarily make 'me too' posts when others have made the same point more articulately, but I'm tossing in my two cents to help impress upon lurking BF suits that it would really not be a good idea. :-)
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 6, 2016 11:27:09 GMT
I think the Main Range should stay as it is, and only have 5-7 in boxsets or specials if required (The boxset with the early 5 Tardis crew for example and the NA's)
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Post by jason on Jun 6, 2016 14:31:57 GMT
I think the Main Range should stay as it is, and only have 5-7 in boxsets or specials if required (The boxset with the early 5 Tardis crew for example... Why was that even a box set? One companion decides to do a little BF after years of saying no and it's special box set- (and higher-price-) worthy?
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 6, 2016 14:45:05 GMT
I think the Main Range should stay as it is, and only have 5-7 in boxsets or specials if required (The boxset with the early 5 Tardis crew for example... Why was that even a box set? One companion decides to do a little BF after years of saying no and it's special box set- (and higher-price-) worthy? No idea tbf, but maybe they couldnt think of a third story in that time, so did it that way
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Post by bobod on Jun 6, 2016 14:50:06 GMT
I think the Main Range should stay as it is, and only have 5-7 in boxsets or specials if required (The boxset with the early 5 Tardis crew for example... Why was that even a box set? One companion decides to do a little BF after years of saying no and it's special box set- (and higher-price-) worthy? It's £30 for two stories - so it's a whole 2p of a higher price. (And IIRC was a lot cheaper for some time prior to release)
It'll have been done as a boxset as BF will have had their monthly/main range plans reasonably fixed far far in advance and so doing some extra Fifth Doctor audios would have had to be as an additional release.
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Post by mrperson on Jun 6, 2016 14:55:13 GMT
I want my monthly MR!
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Post by Digi on Jun 6, 2016 16:22:17 GMT
I can understand the appeal.
For the uninitiated, or to those only familiar with modern DW, the 2-hour episode format can be a bit much to swallow. People are accustomed to edible chunks of 30-60 minutes at a time. Fashioning stories in this way--as we've seen with the box set format to date--is a logical concession to modern sensibilities. Packaging them up as 3 or 4 independent but interrelated stories makes perfect sense; for new buyers they get something they can approach without being overwhelmed by, while 'experienced' buyers get a story with enough meat on its bones to justify the purchase.
And that's just looking at it in dollars and cents (pounds and pence?), paying no attention at all to the creative differences between the two formats.
I like the Monthly Range titles as-is and will continue to subscribe to them, but I'm also used to them. With the licence for New Who now in play, it's perfectly sensible of them to look into means of broadening the appeal of their catalogue beyond the traditional fans, to appeal to the more casual ones who are only just testing the waters of Who beyond television.
So I think it makes perfect sense.
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Post by mrperson on Jun 6, 2016 16:39:08 GMT
I can understand the appeal. For the uninitiated, or to those only familiar with modern DW, the 2-hour episode format can be a bit much to swallow. People are accustomed to edible chunks of 30-60 minutes at a time. Fashioning stories in this way--as we've seen with the box set format to date--is a logical concession to modern sensibilities. Packaging them up as 3 or 4 independent but interrelated stories makes perfect sense; for new buyers they get something they can approach without being overwhelmed by, while 'experienced' buyers get a story with enough meat on its bones to justify the purchase. And that's just looking at it in dollars and cents (pounds and pence?), paying no attention at all to the creative differences between the two formats. I like the Monthly Range titles as-is and will continue to subscribe to them, but I'm also used to them. With the licence for New Who now in play, it's perfectly sensible of them to look into means of broadening the appeal of their catalogue beyond the traditional fans, to appeal to the more casual ones who are only just testing the waters of Who beyond television. So I think it makes perfect sense. I'd be very upset if BF did away with the 1.5-2.2 hour/episode format entirely, just because some new listeners might have trouble adjusting to a 2h episode as compared to a 1h episode. (Besides, I'm not sure I accept the point. (1) Reboot two-parters are 1.5h, and (2) these people presumably watch movies. I suspect the greater adjustment would be getting used to audio-only format, rather than to a 2 hour format specifically) I'd be happiest if the MR was kept intact, but that they also do box sets when feasible. But if I had to choose, I'd definitely keep the MR. They're already doing box set format for Hurt, McGann, and Tennant....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 17:26:06 GMT
I can understand the appeal. For the uninitiated, or to those only familiar with modern DW, the 2-hour episode format can be a bit much to swallow. People are accustomed to edible chunks of 30-60 minutes at a time. Fashioning stories in this way--as we've seen with the box set format to date--is a logical concession to modern sensibilities. Packaging them up as 3 or 4 independent but interrelated stories makes perfect sense; for new buyers they get something they can approach without being overwhelmed by, while 'experienced' buyers get a story with enough meat on its bones to justify the purchase. And that's just looking at it in dollars and cents (pounds and pence?), paying no attention at all to the creative differences between the two formats. I like the Monthly Range titles as-is and will continue to subscribe to them, but I'm also used to them. With the licence for New Who now in play, it's perfectly sensible of them to look into means of broadening the appeal of their catalogue beyond the traditional fans, to appeal to the more casual ones who are only just testing the waters of Who beyond television. So I think it makes perfect sense. I'd be very upset if BF did away with the 1.5-2.2 hour/episode format entirely, just because some new listeners might have trouble adjusting to a 2h episode as compared to a 1h episode. (Besides, I'm not sure I accept the point. (1) Reboot two-parters are 1.5h, and (2) these people presumably watch movies. I suspect the greater adjustment would be getting used to audio-only format, rather than to a 2 hour format specifically) I'd be happiest if the MR was kept intact, but that they also do box sets when feasible. But if I had to choose, I'd definitely keep the MR. They're already doing box set format for Hurt, McGann, and Tennant.... No, I don't think the format would need to change. The Fifth and Third Doctor box sets work nicely as 2 two disc stories, so I assume they'd use that format.
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Post by barnabaslives on Jun 6, 2016 20:43:54 GMT
I think the MR has been very good at shaping my sensibilities about how long an audio should be - even though I've heard way more 1 hour audios than 2 hour audios, it seems like the 1 hour ones are overly short more than it seems like the 2 hour audios are overly long if I compare the two. I think 2 hours probably comes out close to a classic TV six-parter. It's been really nice to have these coming out on a regular basis, and I think good use is usually made of the second hour. As far as I'm concerned the MR really is the "flagship" of BF DW as they like to say, and if it ain't broke...
Also I think with the MR super-subscription offers BF may have made some kind of commitment to the format and to subscribers as that's probably what subscribers are expecting is more of the MR as we have known it. I think that's when this originally came up is prior to those, I was very relieved to think the sub offers could be taken to confirm that they wouldn't be dissolving the MR into separate Doctor ranges.
The box sets seem like more of an event somehow though, which is lots of fun, and I'll be happy if that also results in more attention to BF or increased returns for them.
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Post by Ela on Jun 7, 2016 16:28:00 GMT
I hate the idea of moving away from monthly main range releases in favor of box sets.
Box sets require a large investment of money in one chunk. I really have to budget to be able to afford them.
I'd rather do main range subscriptions, as I have mostly done up to now, and get stories from a variety of Doctors that way. Why fix something that's not broken?
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Post by Digi on Jun 8, 2016 14:52:26 GMT
Box sets require a large investment of money in one chunk. I really have to budget to be able to afford them. I'd rather do main range subscriptions, as I have mostly done up to now, and get stories from a variety of Doctors that way. Why fix something that's not broken? I was curious whether costing was really that drastically different, so I just had a poke around on the BF site to look for comparisons. What I looked at and found: (Canadian dollars) Monthly Range #214 & 215 -- so four hours of story -- are priced at $27.72 each, meaning $55.44 for 4h of story if bought individually. Subscriptions save a few bucks, but realistically, not a lot. By way of comparison, 4h upcoming box sets Doom Coalition 3, Doom Coalition 4, UNIT Shutdown, and UNIT Silenced are each one priced at just $36.98 each--making them nearly $20 cheaper than the same length of story from the Monthlies. Further comparing, I looked at the last four titles of the current run of 4DAs (at 1h each, 4 to come up to equivalent length). Those four titles combined comes out at $81.28, which is only half the season. Broadly speaking--and with eyes only to cost and not to personal story style preference--to me it looks like box sets are the cheapest option by a pretty fair margin. And at current pricing would most definitely be cheaper than the 4DA pricing by a wide margin.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 8, 2016 16:26:34 GMT
This sounds a lot like my... why not end the main range thread... which I regret starting
Lol
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