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Post by thejperry on Jun 13, 2016 4:01:58 GMT
I've just recently started watching "Dark Shadows" the original series. I've been looking for a good message forum for it and this is the best place I've found. If there are other better, more active, message forums could you please advise me?
I'm five episodes into the series and I find the relationship between Uncle Roger and Carolyn to be extremely strange. Almost incestously creepy to be honest. Am I reading to much into it perhaps? Even in the 60s referring to your niece as "kitten" and her glowing amazement at him seems a bit off-setting to me.
After watching the first four episodes though, I'm absolutely hooked. I look forward to watching more!
j.p.
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Post by omega on Jun 13, 2016 5:29:38 GMT
Have you seen this thread? If you're keeping up with the audios, then the podcasts done by bobod for the Collinsport Historical Society website are great to listen to. You don't need any Dark Shadows background to enjoy the audios (although there are lots of easter eggs with continuity references if you have seen the episodes), and one audio is the Listeners release for this month. It doesn't come to anything serious. Neither ends up showing anything more than a family bond, and you'll find Roger is nicer to Carolyn than his is David, his own son. It's like a favorite niece relationship. |
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Post by barnabaslives on Jun 13, 2016 6:38:33 GMT
I did find that a bit... I dunno... jarring, scandalous, or something when Carolyn moons over Roger in front of Vicki, "Isn't Uncle Roger dreamy?" - Eeeeewwwww! :-) Thankfully the likes of it is not heard a second time that I can recall and Carolyn soon discovers that boys exist outside the Collinwood cloister (although "Kitten" will long be heard on the show as a term of innocent endearment).
Glad to heard you're already taking to Dark Shadows. It is an absolutely amazing adventure, one only has to follow where it leads.
Welcome to the forum! This is certainly the Dark Shadows forum I find the most rewarding out of any I've visited.
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Post by silverednickle on Jun 13, 2016 17:16:08 GMT
Welcome to the forums and Dark Shadows! You're in for one amazing journey full of twists and turns, intrigues and secrets, even on the tv show, haha.
Like JBMasta and BarnabasLives say, the weird Roger-Carolyn incestuous bit dies down quickly. Honestly Roger is better than some of the guys she fawns over. The show picks up before Barnabas graces the scene and little bits like that will be a thing of the past. Roger and Carolyn maintain a healthy relationship as uncle and niece.
Please keep us informed as you journey through Dark Shadows and enjoy!
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Post by Trace on Jun 14, 2016 1:34:46 GMT
I think your take on it is interesting, although I never personally felt that way when I saw it the first time round. "Kitten" was an especially popular nickname in the 1960's...there was one on "Father Knows Best" too. As the show goes on I thought it became especially sweet....it showed that Uncle Roger wasn't a complete jerk with everyone, the way he was with his own son (even though David was a "little monster" and probably deserved it!). As for Carolyn saying that her Uncle was "dreamy", I take it as a completely innocent teenager kind of thing to say, it seems innocent enough to say it...we know she's not going to act on it! To me it all just felt like a warm family bond. Carolyn's father was absent, and Uncle Roger was the only male authority figure she had in her life.
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Post by Rob Morris on Jun 14, 2016 8:18:20 GMT
Oh it really jarred for me when I first saw it. I was glad it kind of petered out. Not so much the kitten thing (as you say having him show some kind of paternal affection to someone means he wasn't a complete jerk) but Carolyn calling him dreamy definitely had me going "what the hell?"
I guess it was just a more innocent time. And I'm far from being an innocent person.
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Post by Trace on Jun 15, 2016 1:20:09 GMT
Oh it really jarred for me when I first saw it. I was glad it kind of petered out. Not so much the kitten thing (as you say having him show some kind of paternal affection to someone means he wasn't a complete jerk) but Carolyn calling him dreamy definitely had me going "what the hell?" I guess it was just a more innocent time. And I'm far from being an innocent person. LOL!! Same here...the innocence of that time period is somewhat lost on me...both because I'm just, well, not innocent...and also because I wasn't here yet to experience those years first-hand. It's got both its positives and negatives, the whole "innocence-lost" aspect. Some would call us open and free-thinking, others depraved! I'll take both, and own it!  |
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Post by coldlazarou on Jun 15, 2016 7:41:39 GMT
It's not just the dialogue (Carolyn calling Roger 'dreamy') - it's the breathlessly ecstatic way that it's delivered. One can very easily read a creeptastic element into it, should one be so inclined (and having the twisted brain and sense of humour that i do, i am and do). How does Tony Peterson phrase it when he thinks he's caught Carolyn in a similar icky situation with Cousin Barnabas? Something about the lifestyles of the decadent rich? I suppose that's how i sort of interpreted it the first time i watched the series. It's a shame that it dies off so quickly, really - a gorgeous young woman panting after a guy as camp as Roger is comedy gold in its own strange way. This may just be me, though...  |
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Post by bobod on Jun 15, 2016 8:47:49 GMT
If you've not heard any of the audio stuff - this is primarily a forum for the audio range - you can hear some for free: a whole soapy episode Bloodlust Part One and a solo voice short story Snowflake. |
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