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Post by dastari on Jun 16, 2016 17:14:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 22:46:47 GMT
It's a funny old tale. I enjoyed it but found little bits and pieces of it a lot more jarring than I did Farewell, Great Macedon or The Fragile Yellow Arc of Fragrance, particularly the characterisation of Ian who seemed a lot more "macho" and impulsive than his regular counterpart.
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Post by redsharkJason on Jun 16, 2016 23:58:18 GMT
Nathan: For someone that was born in 1980 (I had always guessed that you were older), you really do have a thorough passion for the earlier Doctor audios! Your review of The Masters of Luxor is interesting and informative.  |
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Post by dastari on Jun 17, 2016 17:26:40 GMT
It's a funny old tale. I enjoyed it but found little bits and pieces of it a lot more jarring than I did Farewell, Great Macedon or The Fragile Yellow Arc of Fragrance, particularly the characterisation of Ian who seemed a lot more "macho" and impulsive than his regular counterpart. Oh, I agree. Barbara also seems very callous. It's funny because Coburn's original script for An Unearthly Child was changed to make the Doctor more likable, but in The Masters of Luxor the Doctor seems fairly mild and it's Ian and Barbara who seem to be more angry and mean-spirited. It's an interesting snapshot of the series as it developed. Nathan: For someone that was born in 1980 (I had always guessed that you were older), you really do have a thorough passion for the earlier Doctor audios! Your review of The Masters of Luxor is interesting and informative. "Get off my lawn." *cough* I mean, I can certainly see why people would think that, especially since I use Dastari as an avatar. I just do that because my screen name is Dastari and I always thought that was a cool sounding name. On other forums I have a Mega Man avatar or even Kaito Kid (from the Detective Conan anime). I have to admit that my favorite eras of the program were from the 60's-70's, which is why I devote my time to those audios. Still, thank you for the compliment. |
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Post by mark687 on Jun 17, 2016 17:51:44 GMT
I really don't like it in fact its the one BF I'll never listen to again
The Perfect One's motivations keep switching but no one bothers to state the fact they're the opposite of each other.
The Doctor's reasoning is all faith based to the point where it is a sermon.
Ian resolves the situation by acting like a total chauvinist and doesn't apologise after , leaving the impression that's what he's really like.
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 17, 2016 20:38:44 GMT
The period before I started watching Doctor Who doesn't interest me very much and as the original Doctors are no longer available I have not bought very many of the audios. However when a sale came up some time ago I did think that I should give the early Doctor's audio a go so I bought The Maters of Luxor and The Rosemariners.
I could not get one with the second Doctor story at all and despite giving it a few attempts I have never made it very far. This first Doctor story on the other hand I found very enjoyable and thought that the limited voice cast worked in it's favour.
I really must big it out and give it another listen.
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Post by constonks on Jun 17, 2016 21:45:08 GMT
This one's good, but I pretty much rank the First Doctor Lost Stories in release order. Although #2 is probably the one I'd be most likely to re-listen to based on the lengths.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 0:48:52 GMT
It's a funny old tale. I enjoyed it but found little bits and pieces of it a lot more jarring than I did Farewell, Great Macedon or The Fragile Yellow Arc of Fragrance, particularly the characterisation of Ian who seemed a lot more "macho" and impulsive than his regular counterpart. Oh, I agree. Barbara also seems very callous. It's funny because Coburn's original script for An Unearthly Child was changed to make the Doctor more likable, but in The Masters of Luxor the Doctor seems fairly mild and it's Ian and Barbara who seem to be more angry and mean-spirited. It's an interesting snapshot of the series as it developed. Nathan: For someone that was born in 1980 (I had always guessed that you were older), you really do have a thorough passion for the earlier Doctor audios! Your review of The Masters of Luxor is interesting and informative. "Get off my lawn." *cough* I mean, I can certainly see why people would think that, especially since I use Dastari as an avatar. I just do that because my screen name is Dastari and I always thought that was a cool sounding name. On other forums I have a Mega Man avatar or even Kaito Kid (from the Detective Conan anime). I have to admit that my favorite eras of the program were from the 60's-70's, which is why I devote my time to those audios. Still, thank you for the compliment. It was a story that I was honestly expecting to have a bit more done to it like Paradise 5 or The Song of the Space Whale. I mean granted the show did occasionally have its moments like Barbara being reduced to a shrieking violet in The Chase (although you could handwave that as her being pushed to her limits), but it feels a little eccentric as a result, not quite part of any era of the show. Oh, I know that feeling. I'm a nineties kid who grew up watching sixties reruns for Who's fortieth anniversary on ABC, so every time I tune into the Hartnell era it's like going back to a 4:3 black-and-white adventure on a VHS tape. |
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Post by elkawho on Jun 18, 2016 4:03:31 GMT
The period before I started watching Doctor Who doesn't interest me very much and as the original Doctors are no longer available I have not bought very many of the audios. However when a sale came up some time ago I did think that I should give the early Doctor's audio a go so I bought The Maters of Luxor and The Rosemariners. I could not get one with the second Doctor story at all and despite giving it a few attempts I have never made it very far. This first Doctor story on the other hand I found very enjoyable and thought that the limited voice cast worked in it's favour. I really must big it out and give it another listen. If you want a truly wonderful 1st Doctor audio, check out Farewell, Great Macedon. It's one of the best things BF have produced. For some great 2nd Doctor era stories try either The Glorious Revolution or The Jigsaw War from the Companion Chronicles, or the Lost Story The Lords Of The Red Planet. IMO, they are all much better than the two titles you've already tried. |
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Post by omega on Jun 18, 2016 4:34:20 GMT
The period before I started watching Doctor Who doesn't interest me very much and as the original Doctors are no longer available I have not bought very many of the audios. However when a sale came up some time ago I did think that I should give the early Doctor's audio a go so I bought The Maters of Luxor and The Rosemariners. I could not get one with the second Doctor story at all and despite giving it a few attempts I have never made it very far. This first Doctor story on the other hand I found very enjoyable and thought that the limited voice cast worked in it's favour. I really must big it out and give it another listen. If you want a truly wonderful 1st Doctor audio, check out Farewell, Great Macedon. It's one of the best things BF have produced. For some great 2nd Doctor era stories try either The Glorious Revolution or The Jigsaw War from the Companion Chronicles, or the Lost Story The Lords Of The Red Planet. IMO, they are all much better than the two titles you've already tried. I totally agree. Farewell, Great Macedon is an excellent historical story. |
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Post by dastari on Jun 20, 2016 17:25:48 GMT
The period before I started watching Doctor Who doesn't interest me very much and as the original Doctors are no longer available I have not bought very many of the audios. However when a sale came up some time ago I did think that I should give the early Doctor's audio a go so I bought The Maters of Luxor and The Rosemariners. I could not get one with the second Doctor story at all and despite giving it a few attempts I have never made it very far. This first Doctor story on the other hand I found very enjoyable and thought that the limited voice cast worked in it's favour. I really must big it out and give it another listen. If you want a truly wonderful 1st Doctor audio, check out Farewell, Great Macedon. It's one of the best things BF have produced. For some great 2nd Doctor era stories try either The Glorious Revolution or The Jigsaw War from the Companion Chronicles, or the Lost Story The Lords Of The Red Planet. IMO, they are all much better than the two titles you've already tried. I completely agree on your 2nd Doctor picks, but I disagree for the First Doctor. I think The Masters of Luxor is the best of the four first Doctor Lost Stories. While Farewell, Great Macedon has some wonderful performances it suffers from some major script issues, such as how someone pushes Alexander's general onto Alexander's sword but no one notices. It also suffers from all the characters who aren't either the regulars or Alexander sound the same, so it's difficult to tell who's talking. Then there's uncomfortability that BF was having with the "enhanced talking book format" that caused them to switch between direct dialog to "he said" or "she said" constantly that left the production feeling awkward. The biggest issue, though, is that as much as people have mentioned how out of character everyone is in Masters of Luxor, Farewell, Great Macedon has the worst with the first Doctor actively trying to change history and Barbara being the one on the sidelines telling them it's a bad idea. Whether you try to put it before or after The Aztecs it doesn't make any sense. Love John Dorney as Alexander though. That was a beautiful performance and the scene where Ian and the Doctor are being put to the test is beautiful. I did a review for the First Doctor box set as well: Review: Doctor Who The Lost Stories - The First Doctor Box Set |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 22, 2016 9:08:36 GMT
Wow, very in-depth review. Haven't tried any of the lost stories yet but will probably give them a go at some point.
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Post by kfbate on Jun 22, 2016 13:05:12 GMT
I think overall with it not being possible to do anything but audio on the classic range, out of all of the Doctors, the 1st and 2nd are standout from Big Finish, I also think that with the services of Treloar, this is getting better and better. However, No.1 lost stories are standout for me and well worth a listen by a mile.
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Post by elkawho on Jun 22, 2016 18:20:50 GMT
If you want a truly wonderful 1st Doctor audio, check out Farewell, Great Macedon. It's one of the best things BF have produced. For some great 2nd Doctor era stories try either The Glorious Revolution or The Jigsaw War from the Companion Chronicles, or the Lost Story The Lords Of The Red Planet. IMO, they are all much better than the two titles you've already tried. I completely agree on your 2nd Doctor picks, but I disagree for the First Doctor. I think The Masters of Luxor is the best of the four first Doctor Lost Stories. While Farewell, Great Macedon has some wonderful performances it suffers from some major script issues, such as how someone pushes Alexander's general onto Alexander's sword but no one notices. It also suffers from all the characters who aren't either the regulars or Alexander sound the same, so it's difficult to tell who's talking. Then there's uncomfortability that BF was having with the "enhanced talking book format" that caused them to switch between direct dialog to "he said" or "she said" constantly that left the production feeling awkward. The biggest issue, though, is that as much as people have mentioned how out of character everyone is in Masters of Luxor, Farewell, Great Macedon has the worst with the first Doctor actively trying to change history and Barbara being the one on the sidelines telling them it's a bad idea. Whether you try to put it before or after The Aztecs it doesn't make any sense. Love John Dorney as Alexander though. That was a beautiful performance and the scene where Ian and the Doctor are being put to the test is beautiful. I did a review for the First Doctor box set as well: Review: Doctor Who The Lost Stories - The First Doctor Box SetInteresting that we have such a different take on this story. Although I see we agree on the performances at least. John Dorney's Alexander is wonderful. We sometimes forget what a talented actor he is because he has become such a wonderful writer. The bastard. |
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Post by elvwood on Jun 22, 2016 20:13:14 GMT
For me, Luxor has the better production and adaptation (BF had got the hang of the format by then, whereas the box set fell uncomfortably between audiobook and audioplay), but FGM has a vastly superior script which more than makes up for it.
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