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Post by acousticwolf on Jun 30, 2016 11:18:55 GMT
So: Cameron has gone ... Corbyn may be on his way out ... Osbourne, Gove, Johnson need to go ... Farage needs to go (surely he's unemployed now?) Time for new leaders, new parties and new politics ... Cheers Tony My post from the 24th June - 2 and a bit down, 3 to go ... Cheers Tony
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 30, 2016 12:27:01 GMT
Thank God Johnson isnt going to be PM, but Gove can not become PM either, he was a p*** poor Education Minsiter, he was a worse Justice Minister (although not as bad as Grayling) and he will be a terrible PM for the UK.
Even though i dont support Conservatives. My vote would be for Theresa May
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Jun 30, 2016 12:35:33 GMT
Post by muckypup on Jun 30, 2016 12:35:33 GMT
Thank God Johnson isnt going to be PM, but Gove can not become PM either, he was a p*** poor Education Minsiter, he was a worse Justice Minister (although not as bad as Grayling) and he will be a terrible PM for the UK. Even though i dont support Conservatives. My vote would be for Theresa May I think Thersa May.... may be the best hope, but I don't think we are done with all the candidates yet!
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Jun 30, 2016 13:44:35 GMT
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 30, 2016 13:44:35 GMT
Thank God Donald Tr-sorry, I mean 'Boris Johnson' has stepped down. Now I couldn't care less who ends up leading Conservatives.
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Jun 30, 2016 14:20:11 GMT
Post by acousticwolf on Jun 30, 2016 14:20:11 GMT
Theresa May isn't ideal either, she comes across as a bit paranoid and was the one who brought in a lot of "Big Brother" laws. Also, apologies to our female friends, but I'm not sure the "Cons" (great new abr. for the Conservatives ) would want another female PM. I agree totally about Gove, and to show how good he was Nicky Morgan thinks he's great ... yeah, and she's a shining beacon for Education /sarcasm! Perhaps that Stephen Crabb might be the way to go ... an 'almost' unknown. And if all that wasn't enough, the Greens are also having a leadership election soon (although, that was planned well before all this kicked off). Cheers Tony
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Post by icecreamdf on Jun 30, 2016 14:47:43 GMT
Thank God Donald Tr-sorry, I mean 'Boris Johnson' has stepped down. You got my hopes up for a second.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 15:15:24 GMT
Vote for Mr Saxon as PM.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 15:22:40 GMT
Gove goes in, Boris pulls out, I'm not sure if he realised he could never lead a united party or wether he now realises with no vision and no plan he could never lead the country. Boris has been prepping this for years - there's no way he came to this conclusion himself. The BBC report that Rupert Murdoch told reporters this week that Gove had more credibility and carried himself better and (crucially) would be a better leader. Along with the leaked email last night, it seems Gove has launched a very British coup overnight and Boris has gone from Mayor and presumptive Prime Minister to absolutely nowhere. A week is a long time in etc, etc.
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Jun 30, 2016 15:44:13 GMT
Post by aztec on Jun 30, 2016 15:44:13 GMT
Boris has only got himself to blame, I don't think he expected Leave to win and was merely supporting the campaign to give himself more credibility and a shot at a high profile cabinet job, now that he's unexpectedly won he's realized that he doesn't have what it takes to unite the country and hasn't got a plan at all.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 30, 2016 15:45:10 GMT
I don't know which party he represents but I don't care, I'm going to vote for him anyway.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:03:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 16:03:34 GMT
Boris was never angling for a top cabinet job - he wanted the big chair and has since he was a teenager. He's not a backroom player. He's not taken this decision - it's been taken for him.
Whether or not Michael Gove is more electable is up to one factor now - will members trust someone who openly committed such a massive backstabbing of his friend and colleague? Gove has gone all in now. What the Leave Tories could well find now is that they've slung so much mud at each other that Theresa May, a Remain Tory walks past them and wins power despite the "Brexit needs to be led by a Leaver" rhetoric. Fox has too much scandal which has already seen him booted before, Crabbe's homophobic views would make him toxic, and Andrea Leadsom would seem too inexperienced. Cameron was called inexperienced though and still led them for 11 years. If Boris backed Leadsom the race will be very, very interesting.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:06:01 GMT
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 30, 2016 16:06:01 GMT
Whether or not Michael Gove is more electable is up to one factor now - will members trust someone who openly committed such a massive backstabbing of his friend and colleague? Please. Michael Gove has done us a favour.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 16:09:38 GMT
Whether or not Michael Gove is more electable is up to one factor now - will members trust someone who openly committed such a massive backstabbing of his friend and colleague? Please. Michael Gove has done us a favour. You clearly don't understand my post. I'm not on side with any of them. It's commentary. Though if you think that, I'd suggest following Michael Gove's career much closer. He's less buffoonish but no less toxic than Boris. Why not ask a headteacher what they think of Michael Gove?
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Jun 30, 2016 16:15:04 GMT
Post by jasonward on Jun 30, 2016 16:15:04 GMT
Cameron was called inexperienced though and still led them for 11 years. If Boris backed Leadsom the race will be very, very interesting. One has to say though, Cameron is going to go down in history as one of the worst Prime Ministers of all time, rightly or wrongly, history is going to blame him for Brexit and it's consequences and he will be soon as fool. I'm actually not sure he's any of those things, but history tends to paint things black and white.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:23:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 16:23:34 GMT
Cameron was called inexperienced though and still led them for 11 years. If Boris backed Leadsom the race will be very, very interesting. One has to say though, Cameron is going to go down in history as one of the worst Prime Ministers of all time, rightly or wrongly, history is going to blame him for Brexit and it's consequences and he will be soon as fool. I'm actually not sure he's any of those things, but history tends to paint things black and white. My point was not on whether Cameron will go down one way or the other - but that the Tories as recently as Cameron's election backed an inexperienced outsider over an old head who was instantly installed as favourite. In 2005 it was Cameron who unexpectedly beat David Davies. I wouldn't bet entirely against Leasdsom doing the same over Gove and May despite them being war-horses comparatively. Whoever they go for, they have no idea who the Labour leader to beat will be. That may well favour an all-rounder like May more than a right-winger like Fox.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:28:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 16:28:09 GMT
And hey, if the Scottish Gove or Fox were elected leader, and Scotland gains independence...they'd be foreigners leading England
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 30, 2016 16:32:54 GMT
The problem is... The members of the labour party actually want corban to be the leader.
It's the mps that don't.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:35:05 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 30, 2016 16:35:05 GMT
The problem is... The members of the labour party actually want corban to be the leader.
It's the mps that don't.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:35:51 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 30, 2016 16:35:51 GMT
Wow. I just did a post about Gove and it wouldn't load...
Tory control the Internet!
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Jun 30, 2016 16:35:59 GMT
Post by aztec on Jun 30, 2016 16:35:59 GMT
The problem is... The members of the labour party actually want corban to be the leader. It's the mps that don't. Does that make Corbyn supporters out of touch with Labour Voters, or the M.P's out of touch with what constitutes a labour voter these days Give it 10 years and B.F could try doing an audio drama about all this...
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