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Jun 24, 2016 8:09:35 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 24, 2016 8:09:35 GMT
A sad sad sad day.
It feels like Germany. ..
Hell.
Crystalnact?
They won't be happy unless there is forced expulsion and the taking of jobs...
Who will pick our fruit?
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Jun 24, 2016 8:14:25 GMT
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Post by kimalysong on Jun 24, 2016 8:14:25 GMT
Just hope this isn't a prelude to what to expect from the US General election.
Note: While I was on the remain side as an outsider I still hope for the best. I hope things will somehow turn out well.
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Jun 24, 2016 8:18:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 8:18:28 GMT
The United Kingdom has always had this habit of bouncing back, but from what I've seen and read so far, it's going to be a very rough transition period and not just for Britain either. Here in Australia, we rely on the United Kingdom in order to keep updated about situations within the European Union's jurisdiction anyway, so... we're now in very serious trouble. The situation there is very quickly being regarded as no longer stable with the possibility of Ireland and Scotland seceding from the UK. Isolationism seems to be very much in for the West at the moment. China is looking to expand while its opposite numbers are looking to build up walls and isolate themselves. This may all turn out for the best and Britain may be stronger than ever, but the way things are going in the world... It might be a very bad century to be a Westerner.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jun 24, 2016 8:41:44 GMT
Having no internet, I'm coming to this late, but we shouldn't overreact today. There is no guarantee that we will leave Europe - we have no constitution that states the government has to accept the results of a referendum. It will take 2 years from invoking the article 50 to actually leaving. There will be a loophole in article 50 (I'm sure) that allows for further negotiation (if not a new government may overturn the decision). Leaving Europe does not mean leaving everything, Britain will still trade with and have migrants from Europe (and still be accountable in some areas). The markets will stabilise - they were high at the start of the night and so have fallen further than they would have. They always react badly to uncertainty. This could force the EU to look at what it's become and take the opportunity to restructure it's aims and renegotiate with Britain. This could be seen as the start of the revolution against the political establishment. The Tories are going to tear themselves apart. Labour are tearing themselves apart. No-one is going to vote far right UKIP into government. If we have a general election it could see the introduction of Proportional Representation. There may be a swing to independents, the Greens and cross-party co-operation. Scotland and Ireland may vote for Independence - is that a bad thing? Scotland has wanted it for centuries. Southern Ireland want it. Does this just prove that the time of Unions is over? Trade between nations is good, but are political Super-States? There are a lot of unknowns today (and a fair amount of gut reaction). What we really need is a strong/stable government that will do the best for the people. Do I believe we have that? No, as shown by Cameron resigning. I said at the start he should have stayed neutral and promised to work with either result (for the good of the people). It just shows me he is a spineless, ineffectual leader. Do I believe this could be a new beginning for us all, something good? I have to hope it is. Remember, today is just another day ... nothing has changed for us plebs! And if it does all turn to shit, my wife is Scottish so we have 2 years to sort ourselves out and hop over the border before the wall goes up Cheers Tony
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Jun 24, 2016 8:41:46 GMT
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Post by kimalysong on Jun 24, 2016 8:41:46 GMT
anyway.....what u worried about this is your chance for independence! maybe I should sell up and move nextdoor to you Well, I'd do it quickly. When we get independence then there's no guarantee you'd be allowed to move here now England renounced the EU. That means no freedom of movement! We may have to build a wall to keep English and Welsh migrants out. I am sure Donald Trump will be willing to help you with that. He has a lot of walls to go around.
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Jun 24, 2016 8:45:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 8:45:21 GMT
Well, I'd do it quickly. When we get independence then there's no guarantee you'd be allowed to move here now England renounced the EU. That means no freedom of movement! We may have to build a wall to keep English and Welsh migrants out. I am sure Donald Trump will be willing to help you with that. He has a lot of walls to go around. And best of all, you don't have to pay for it yourself. I'm a bit curious actually. People from the United States can move over to Canada if they want, but Europe seems a bit of a mess at the moment. Where do you go if you leave the country?
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Jun 24, 2016 9:11:05 GMT
Post by muckypup on Jun 24, 2016 9:11:05 GMT
well my phone has been hot hot hot as the results of this have come in. all the people I know from the old mining communities are elated at this result.
it really is as I said, people have voted for out because the current status quo they had no voice
so the result really lies in the hands of labours failure to help the "white working class".
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Post by mark687 on Jun 24, 2016 9:38:48 GMT
Feeling like the guy covered in locusts in the Brendon Frazer Mummy movie this morning,
"What have we Done"!
Regards
mark687
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 24, 2016 10:14:24 GMT
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Jun 24, 2016 10:23:00 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 24, 2016 10:23:00 GMT
Aw bugger
So if Wales leaves the union... are they taking docyor who with them?
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 24, 2016 10:23:36 GMT
It's game of thrones...
Without any good bits
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 24, 2016 10:34:26 GMT
Just spoken to my mum. Aparently everyone in the north east voted out... That's more that 2m.
So.
Blame Geordie shore
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Jun 24, 2016 10:44:14 GMT
Post by mrfuggleboppins on Jun 24, 2016 10:44:14 GMT
Stayed up to 5am for the referendum results. Once the "leave lead" surpassed 100-200,000, I knew there was no way that remain could catch up, even as many commentators were doing the whole "it's too early to comment!" routine. I held out hope during the last General Election that Labour could magically claw itself back and gain a string of seats, but I can't deal with that amount of optimism now. If anything it just feels like a massive waste of paperwork and the concentration of the EU when there's many other issues for them to deal with. It won't affect my university education and possibly doing Erasmus because we're in the process of negotiation, but I fear it won't be too good for future students, especially when Theresa May has been clamping down on the rights of international students as it is.
I'm not sure how much of a victory this is for Farage I did not expect this outcome, especially when they were first making real waves a couple of years ago. I rate his victory speech very low.
At this stage, I'm sick of elections and referendums and all of this. We had a General Election last year; we had local elections last month; the prospect of seeing another one so soon screams of instability. But I don't have the confidence that Corbyn would be able to make any great gains, despite my support of Labour; instead I expect more Conservative votes, more Green Party votes, more UKIP votes, and a drift further right within the Conservatives. I'm not a great fan of Cameron but I can't imagine his replacement will be anything to shout about.
Wonder how leave supporters are reacting to this morning's news? My Facebook and Twitter feeds are echo chambers of students distraught at the future of the country. I've a couple of far left leaning friends who are praising the defeat of Cameron, bureaucracy and neoliberalism and the victory of the working class, and in the process lost a lot of respect for them.
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Jun 24, 2016 10:46:12 GMT
Post by coffeeaddict on Jun 24, 2016 10:46:12 GMT
Here in North America a lot of people don't realize that this could have significant ramifications for businesses operating in Europe.
A number of Canadian firms have been quoted in the media over the past few weeks discussing how their dealings in the EU will be negatively impacted with Britain leaving.
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Jun 24, 2016 10:52:04 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 24, 2016 10:52:04 GMT
Old sayings
America sneezes. The uk catches cold.
New saying The uk is a virus...
Maybe needs work.
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Jun 24, 2016 11:23:06 GMT
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Post by grazey on Jun 24, 2016 11:23:06 GMT
You can't blame us scots. All areas wanted to stay.
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Jun 24, 2016 11:26:06 GMT
Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 24, 2016 11:26:06 GMT
"Oh God Why Hast Though Forsaken Thee"
Well I'm not happy with the result, I'm in that 48%, but i will have to accept the decision and see if we get buggered by it. Also poor Gibraltar, they are gonna get a hard time from Spain now.
But anyway, just to clear something up, by leaving the EU, doesnt mean we are leaving Europe, we will always be a part of that continent, its just the EU we are leaving, which means YAY, We get to stay in EuroVision lmao
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Jun 24, 2016 11:32:18 GMT
Post by acousticwolf on Jun 24, 2016 11:32:18 GMT
You can't blame us scots. All areas wanted to stay. To be fair 38% of Scots wanted to leave, just as 46.6% of English wanted to stay I guess that's Democracy ... for better or worse! Cheers Tony
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Jun 24, 2016 11:37:46 GMT
Post by acousticwolf on Jun 24, 2016 11:37:46 GMT
So: Cameron has gone ... Corbyn may be on his way out ... Osbourne, Gove, Johnson need to go ... Farage needs to go (surely he's unemployed now?)
Time for new leaders, new parties and new politics ...
Cheers
Tony
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 24, 2016 11:42:33 GMT
Grayling needs to go as well. I hate his face lol
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