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Post by Whovitt on Jul 31, 2016 9:50:01 GMT
Well, listening to Track 22 on the Behind the Scenes disc of Classic Doctors, New Monsters Vol. 1 gives (I think) a VERY strong indication as to which monsters will be appearing in Classic Doctors, New Monsters Vol. 2 (due to the nature of the suggestions I'll put them in spoiler tags): When they're discussing Vol. 2 there are three sound effects that play: the first one is at approximately 1:06-1:07, which is the sound of some sort of robot (which I recognise but can't for the life of my place - I think it's from a Tennant story though); the second sound is at 1:29 when David Richardson is saying that one monster will appear in two scripts, which (to my ear) is the sound the Vastha Nerada made when they moved from the helmets to the rest of the space suit, revealing the skull within; the last sound is at 1:42-1:43, which sounds something like a ghost, so maybe the Gelth (although the Doctor hadn't met them before from memory, or, at least, not in the gaseous/ghost form). So, I'm certainly looking forward to the second possibility (I always thought that story was one of the best from the new series), the third possibility would certainly be interesting, and, like I said before, I'm not sure what the first will be exactly, but if the story is anything like those in Vol. 1, it will be brilliant  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 12:09:46 GMT
It's the next logical choice. If the Silence weren't already being used for UNIT, I think they'd stand a good chance too. In The Impossible Planet the Doctor says he's never encountered the Ood before. Which is why Steven Moffat wrote rule one. |
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Post by MayoTango131 on Jul 31, 2016 23:11:37 GMT
The biggest problem I had with the storyline was why? Why were they out to get him? mrperson recently asked the same question in a different thread. In "A Good Man Goes To War" all you know is that they don't like him because he talks, and sometimes he lies. What? I've also heard that they don't like him because his TARDIS blows up. But then I also thought they blow up the TARDIS. (Maybe I'm wrong about that.) Either way it makes no sense. We still don't know why the TARDIS blows up. And if that's why an entire army wants to kill him, wouldn't it be more cost effective in lives and money to just find The Doctor and warn him? I mean, no Timelord wants his/her TARDIS to be destroyed. The entire story-line makes absolutely no sense and there are so many inconsistencies, but so many important things in Eleven's era are linked to it. Not the least of which is the existence of River Song. The problem is, I'm not sure even BF could salvage this one. When Kovarian said the baby was hope in a endless, bitter war against the Doctor. The Siege of Trenzalore was the first thing that came to mind. I think that after centuries of struggle, anyone can go crazy and having to find extreme measures to end once and for all the war (The High Council of Gallifrey and Rassilon in the Time War are another example of this) In "The Time of the Doctor" is revelated that a renegade chapter of the Church led by Madame Kovarian was later uncovered as the group who interfered with the TARDIS and made it explode. One extreme way to prevent the events os Trenzalore, a clear example of his despair and madness. In "UNIT: Dominion" is revealed that warn the Doctor is a waste of time, and even the worst thing that one can do, because he will do the opposite by arrogance for not obeying anyone or being dominated by his curiosity. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 0:30:23 GMT
For me, The First Doctor and The Weeping Angels is an inevitable fit. There perfect for the era - that strange unknown universe - and the narration would add nicely to the tension and the epic feeling of The Doctor and The Weeping Angel's first encounter. |
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 1, 2016 0:47:10 GMT
It would probably require Time Lord-induced amnesia (sigh) but for some reason I feel terribly keen on the idea of the Second Doctor meeting the Ood. (In fact, I'm very keen on the idea of Big Finish doing anything with the Ood because if there's anyone I might trust to make Oodsong more a thing of true unearthly beauty and less of an Italian opera...) ;-)
Does raise the question I suppose of whether the first 3 Doctors will ever appear in future editions of CDNM or whether I would want to hope for some sort of special releases to accommodate them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 6:04:41 GMT
It would probably require Time Lord-induced amnesia (sigh) but for some reason I feel terribly keen on the idea of the Second Doctor meeting the Ood. (In fact, I'm very keen on the idea of Big Finish doing anything with the Ood because if there's anyone I might trust to make Oodsong more a thing of true unearthly beauty and less of an Italian opera...) ;-) Does raise the question I suppose of whether the first 3 Doctors will ever appear in future editions of CDNM or whether I would want to hope for some sort of special releases to accommodate them. As I said earlier, no amnesia required. They can just ignore the line about never having met the Ood because the Doctor lies. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 1, 2016 11:55:52 GMT
Four has to go up against the Vashta Nerada. Its the perfect combination
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Post by constonks on Aug 2, 2016 0:08:33 GMT
Did a quick search of The Impossible Planet and I can't find the Doctor explicitly saying that he's never met an Ood. BUT he didn't know how they communicated with each other, nor did he seem to recognize them, so I'm gonna agree with him not knowing about them. Shame, but hopefully we get another Tennant or Smith story with them at some point.
I'll change my Ood endorsement for a Vashta one.
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Aug 2, 2016 0:56:43 GMT
The Reapers and the Racnoss would be pretty cool.
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Post by relativetime on Aug 2, 2016 4:13:45 GMT
8 vs. the Reapers
7 vs. the Krillitanes
6 vs. the Vashta Nerada
5 vs. the Carrionites
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 4:47:01 GMT
8 vs. the Reapers 7 vs. the Krillitanes 6 vs. the Vashta Nerada 5 vs. the Carrionites Best. Pairings. Ever! Especially 6 vs. The Vashta Nerada and 7 vs, The Krilltanes |
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Post by relativetime on Aug 2, 2016 4:59:18 GMT
8 vs. the Reapers 7 vs. the Krillitanes 6 vs. the Vashta Nerada 5 vs. the Carrionites Best. Pairings. Ever! Especially 6 vs. The Vashta Nerada and 7 vs, The Krilltanes Thanks! |
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 2, 2016 6:56:53 GMT
Seven vs. Raxicoricofalapatorians
Two vs. Vashta Nerada
Three Vs. Silence
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Post by bobod on Aug 2, 2016 10:40:33 GMT
It'th the Thilenth, Tharah! |
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Post by bobod on Aug 2, 2016 10:45:31 GMT
I suppose the Silence are ideal as the plots would all automatically lead to the Doctor not remembering meeting them before so no continuity problems.
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Post by Whovitt on Aug 2, 2016 11:24:21 GMT
I'm not sure whether this is a continuity error or whether it's people forgetting this one scene (no pun intended), but in The Impossible Astronaut when Amy goes into the bathroom she remembers seeing the Silent she saw earlier by the lake. Also, the woman Joy 'remembers' (she appears to have more difficulty remembering) the Silent every time she looks back at it.
The point I'm making here is that people forget the Silence when they aren't looking at them but then remember previous encounters upon seeing them again. As I say, I'm not sure whether this is a continuity error, as I don't recall this remembering state ever happening again; but as it did happen, it would prevent the Doctor meeting the Silence at any point prior to his younger self in The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon, as he would remember them when he does meet them in this story, which he clearly doesn't.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 2, 2016 11:24:44 GMT
Four has to go up against the Vashta Nerada. Its the perfect combination I think Eight would be perfect to face them I think they both work would with the Vashta Nerada. We have the Monsters for our 4/8 adventure |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Aug 2, 2016 12:20:48 GMT
Did a quick search of The Impossible Planet and I can't find the Doctor explicitly saying that he's never met an Ood. BUT he didn't know how they communicated with each other, nor did he seem to recognize them, so I'm gonna agree with him not knowing about them. Shame, but hopefully we get another Tennant or Smith story with them at some point. I'll change my Ood endorsement for a Vashta one. I couldn't care less about how it fits into continuity personally, the Ood in a Classic Doctors, New Monsters release would just make sense given they are an iconic new series monster. |
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Post by bobod on Aug 2, 2016 12:40:23 GMT
I'm not sure whether this is a continuity error or whether it's people forgetting this one scene (no pun intended), but in The Impossible Astronaut when Amy goes into the bathroom she remembers seeing the Silent she saw earlier by the lake. Also, the woman Joy 'remembers' (she appears to have more difficulty remembering) the Silent every time she looks back at it. The point I'm making here is that people forget the Silence when they aren't looking at them but then remember previous encounters upon seeing them again. As I say, I'm not sure whether this is a continuity error, as I don't recall this remembering state ever happening again; but as it did happen, it would prevent the Doctor meeting the Silence at any point prior to his younger self in The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon, as he would remember them when he does meet them in this story, which he clearly doesn't. No, it's totally established that that's the case. Ironically, I just forgot... |
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 2, 2016 15:54:00 GMT
I'm not sure whether this is a continuity error or whether it's people forgetting this one scene (no pun intended), but in The Impossible Astronaut when Amy goes into the bathroom she remembers seeing the Silent she saw earlier by the lake. Also, the woman Joy 'remembers' (she appears to have more difficulty remembering) the Silent every time she looks back at it. The point I'm making here is that people forget the Silence when they aren't looking at them but then remember previous encounters upon seeing them again. As I say, I'm not sure whether this is a continuity error, as I don't recall this remembering state ever happening again; but as it did happen, it would prevent the Doctor meeting the Silence at any point prior to his younger self in The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon, as he would remember them when he does meet them in this story, which he clearly doesn't. I think over time you forget even more. Remember, when the Doctor looked at a Silence in Wedding of River Song, he says that he always wondered what they looked like. He also explained to Canton, Amy, and Rory that over time you even forget information about the Silence. I suspect that he would have forgotten about any encounters with the Silence in earlier incarnations. |
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